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ttlpkg....IT depression is real....

strongchick

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Snarfed this quote from netslaves.com for you as an example of how depressed the IT market is:

"Just to back up my friend and his friends who have been out of work for over a year...Ive been laid off and unemployed for 6 months nowmyself. I use to be a Cisco Network Engineer and Architect, i designed and built from the ground up, $50 million dollar e-business, e-commerce etc networks on a global level....i have been looking for a job EVERY SINGLE DAY for 6 months now. It is just like youve been reading! It's worse than the great depression, i guess all of youy lucky folks that still hold jobs just would rather prefer to walk thru this entire thing with blinders on and pretend it isnt happening? CASE IN POINT: I have spent the last 2 weeks going to every single company with a network and an IT department in the entire Southern NH and MA areas, ive in this 2 week period printed over 100 resumes (mine are 4 pages long as i have many years and much experience) and hand delivered them to over 100 companies.....let me tell you some statistics iv'e learned (of course youll never hear about these companys statistics because their not Enrons or large enough for the magor news organizations to even bother with).
FACT 1- Every single one of these 100 companys has had magor layoffs in the last 2 months, and laying off more by the week these last 2 weeks!
FACT 2- 25% of them are already in Chapter 11 and struggling just to keep their doors open every single day!
FACT 3- Another 25% of them are shutting their doors completely within days and or over the next week or two!
And every single receptionist ive been greeted by when i lay my spiel on them that i am a laid off Network Engineer pounding the pavement looking for work, has gotten a good chuckle and wished me the best as they will all soon be in the same boat as me and the million + other laid off IT workers out there in lala land (they say the figure is a million+, but i'd bet my left and right nuts it is triple that, i dont think anyone has the balls to tell us the real figure, that's how bad it really is...) SO why dont you wake up and stand up in the shit your shoveling in and get a grip on reality......because right now, the state that this country and the economy is in makes the Great Depression look like a fucking picnic!!!! Oh yeah, and by the way, to everyone, did you ever think that it is pretty hard to relocate, when your flat broke, the unemployment has run out and your surviving on grunt wages..DUHHHHHHHHH? It totally mystifies me that some of you are highly intelligent hi-tech workers with brains and degrees, and what mystifies me even more is that most of you pipe dreamers still have jobs? WAKE UP PEOPLE, this country is in a world of shit, and all our government gives a flying shit about is every other pissant country in the world and those country's problems, the Airlines and the Insurance industry, etc(?) and not one flying rats-ass about its own people, the hard working out of work american citizens, who want nothing more to have a job like me and all those million(S) others, we, who gave every ounce and drop of their blood, sweat and tears via 16-18 hour days every single day for years like myself (me a lot of 24 hour straight days as well thank you very much!) -CASE IN POINT: All the Republicans want to do is give $100 billion in a so called stimulas package to Corporate America and screw the american citizen and laid off workers, Jesus H Christ, this is like a extremely bad nightmare that never ends and you cant wake up from, as if big corporations dont have and isnt sitting on enough stockpiles of money, and we the laid off Hi-Tech workers who have nothing and are fearing eviction, foreclosures, utilities shutoffs and car repossesions, will all be living in the streets in cardboard boxes soon enough just dont seem to matter at all, were just statistics to our own government

signed, a laid off extremely intelligent, high end, ex $90k a year network engineer corporate refugee statistic...THINK ABOUT ALL OF THAT! The next time any of you make some idiotic remark, cause it could be you next, out here with the rest of us! in HELL
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For someone who claims to be extremely intelligent, the writer of that post sure isn't very eloquent and obviously doesn't know how to use a spell checker.

As far as the meat of what he or she is saying, I don't know that I buy it. I just had to lay off one of my employees yesterday, and he had a job offer as of last week. He has one certification, a wide variety of skills, and no degree.

I think the job market and the difficulty in finding a new IT job varies from region to region.
 
TheProject said:
For someone who claims to be extremely intelligent, the writer of that post sure isn't very eloquent and obviously doesn't know how to use a spell checker.

As far as the meat of what he or she is saying, I don't know that I buy it. I just had to lay off one of my employees yesterday, and he had a job offer as of last week. He has one certification, a wide variety of skills, and no degree.

I think the job market and the difficulty in finding a new IT job varies from region to region.

what salary level? cheap guys can find jobs easy in my region.
 
strongchick said:


what salary level? cheap guys can find jobs easy in my region.

Well, I'd call it mid-to-high. He's not a cheap help desk guy, that's for sure. Yeah, the mid 20's guys are always in demand.

In this instance, it would've been about a $10K raise.
 
TheProject said:


Well, I'd call it mid-to-high. He's not a cheap help desk guy, that's for sure. Yeah, the mid 20's guys are always in demand.

In this instance, it would've been about a $10K raise.

a 10K raise? Then I want to get laid off.

I'm joking in case someone is monitoring my internet activity.
 
The Nature Boy said:


a 10K raise? Then I want to get laid off.

I'm joking in case someone is monitoring my internet activity.

Yeah, I laughed when he told me about it, because then his salary would be higher than mine, and I was his manager!
 
TheProject said:


Yeah, I laughed when he told me about it, because then his salary would be higher than mine, and I was his manager!


welcome to the wonderful world of information technology.

Hey project, what kind of work do you do?
 
The Nature Boy said:



welcome to the wonderful world of information technology.

Hey project, what kind of work do you do?

No kidding.

I'm a professional geek. I've done Mac support, PC support, NT Server work, network admin stuff, even some phone stuff.

Now I'm in managment, which to my employees means I'm technically stupid. :lmao:

With him being laid off, I'll be doing more technical stuff, but I've kept myself in it pretty well the whole time. Not quite as sharp as I used to be, but I hold my own.

All told, I've been in IT for about 5 years, and I still love it.
 
TheProject said:


No kidding.

I'm a professional geek. I've done Mac support, PC support, NT Server work, network admin stuff, even some phone stuff.

Now I'm in managment, which to my employees means I'm technically stupid. :lmao:

With him being laid off, I'll be doing more technical stuff, but I've kept myself in it pretty well the whole time. Not quite as sharp as I used to be, but I hold my own.

All told, I've been in IT for about 5 years, and I still love it.

glad you are happy and employed...but that Cisco guy ranting is like...from way beyond PC support and NT network admin.

I'm talking about IT people with intense degrees and Cisco certs -- Cisco certs...that can't get jobs.
 
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