Truth and the endless search

[loganrott]

EF is a great place to learn from great guys who paid their dues and are willing to share their valuable knowledge in a bludgeoned health program. However, I think that because of their sharing and honesty, some of the uninitiated learn to trust this site to the degree that they plunk down their hard earned cash with an outfit because they trust this environ and therefor it's advertisers. They wind up with some overpriced supplement of questionable value that was implied to be da reel juice.
I am clearly NOT advocating the boycotting or banning of any vendors here....and I cannot speak for others, but I for one, would be willing to contribute more lucre towards the financial necessities of running this site if the Honchos would enforce some sort of Truth in Advertising around here. If this has been covered b4 or is an inapropriate post, I apologize and the Mods will axe it. Just my 2 cc's for truth.

 

[almost-pro]

EF is a great place to learn from great guys who paid their dues and are willing to share their valuable knowledge in a bludgeoned health program. However, I think that because of their sharing and honesty, some of the uninitiated learn to trust this site to the degree that they plunk down their hard earned cash with an outfit because they trust this environ and therefor it's advertisers. They wind up with some overpriced supplement of questionable value that was implied to be da reel juice.
I am clearly NOT advocating the boycotting or banning of any vendors here....and I cannot speak for others, but I for one, would be willing to contribute more lucre towards the financial necessities of running this site if the Honchos would enforce some sort of Truth in Advertising around here. If this has been covered b4 or is an inapropriate post, I apologize and the Mods will axe it. Just my 2 cc's for truth.

its a really good post and in a perfect world all companies would do this such of thing. however, EF is a business like any other and is going to look out for their bottom line. this does not make them a bad or dishonest business IMO, just a business like any other.

 

[Maxx Out]

EF is a great place to learn from great guys who paid their dues and are willing to share their valuable knowledge in a bludgeoned health program. However, I think that because of their sharing and honesty, some of the uninitiated learn to trust this site to the degree that they plunk down their hard earned cash with an outfit because they trust this environ and therefor it's advertisers. They wind up with some overpriced supplement of questionable value that was implied to be da reel juice.
I am clearly NOT advocating the boycotting or banning of any vendors here....and I cannot speak for others, but I for one, would be willing to contribute more lucre towards the financial necessities of running this site if the Honchos would enforce some sort of Truth in Advertising around here. If this has been covered b4 or is an inapropriate post, I apologize and the Mods will axe it. Just my 2 cc's for truth.

If these people took some time to read, they would know exactly what they were buying. I don't think it's false advertising at all.

 

[holy ghost]

bro logan you sent me the most ridiculous PM I have ever read and I am going to show some some people lol! ! !! ! !

 

[needtogetarmy]

If these people took some time to read, they would know exactly what they were buying. I don't think it's false advertising at all.

"The Roid Store" That is false advertising right on its face. I am surprised they haven't been sued. IMO (and I am saying this from the perspective of an attorney) the Roid store is a prima facie example of false advertising.

 

[LAN T]

"The Roid Store" That is false advertising right on its face. I am surprised they haven't been sued. IMO (and I am saying this from the perspective of an attorney) the Roid store is a prima facie example of false advertising.

When they came online is when this place started to go to shit. That's a FACT.

 

[Nelson Montana]

If these people took some time to read, they would know exactly what they were buying. I don't think it's false advertising at all.

That pretty much sums it up. All anyone has to do is read the ingredients and the dosages. Right there, they can tell a lot. And it they have any questions, they just have to ask those who promote the product in question. Not a bad deal, IMO.

 

[holy ghost]

also, 99% of those guys are BETTER OFF using roidstore prod than REAL juice

99% of users dont get their diet down til their second or 3rd cycles

im talking 100% flawless diet and training and literate in BB/PL/nutrition info

which is why I put a few guys on an oral only first so they can get their shit down

yeah its nice to think "they should have done it before they even touched it first"

but fuck thats not reality here people.

 

[redsamurai]

also, 99% of those guys are BETTER OFF using roidstore prod than REAL juice

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not so sure about that bro, some of these prohormones or "precursors" or whatever..............are actually worse for you then the real shit. I'd be willing to give roid store products a try..........but only if I got a decent amount for free. Even if your weights don't immediately go up, you can tell after only a few weeks if the shit you're using is any good. Obviously with some of the very long acting AAS's, that's not the case. But in general it doesn't take long for you to figure out your shit works or not. If in a week you're walking around with wood all day, chances are something good is going on..........

 

[GUESS]

EF is a great place to learn from great guys who paid their dues and are willing to share their valuable knowledge in a bludgeoned health program. However, I think that because of their sharing and honesty, some of the uninitiated learn to trust this site to the degree that they plunk down their hard earned cash with an outfit because they trust this environ and therefor it's advertisers. They wind up with some overpriced supplement of questionable value that was implied to be da reel juice.
I am clearly NOT advocating the boycotting or banning of any vendors here....and I cannot speak for others, but I for one, would be willing to contribute more lucre towards the financial necessities of running this site if the Honchos would enforce some sort of Truth in Advertising around here. If this has been covered b4 or is an inapropriate post, I apologize and the Mods will axe it. Just my 2 cc's for truth.

May I ask what provoked your concern?

 

[holy ghost]

Roidstore prod does not contain PH or Precurosors ,they are herbal supplements with REAL proven ingredients ( weak yes ), I wasnt very clear but just to let you know i wasnt talking about prohomones

Its like Trib and shit

 

[Nelson Montana]

Roidstore prod does not contain PH or Precurosors ,they are herbal supplements with REAL proven ingredients ( weak yes ), I wasnt very clear but just to let you know i wasnt talking about prohomones

Its like Trib and shit

Where are the ingredients listed?

 

[Nelson Montana]

When they came online is when this place started to go to shit. That's a FACT.

Just over 200 posts and you're talking about how the old days were better? GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.

 

[almost-pro]

Nelson I understand your point, but we're all adults here (ok there may be some peeps here under 18.) I expect anyone with a grain of intellegince to do some research before they order. I don't agree with the name "Roid Store" as it is misleading. However... so are alot of products sold at GNC based on their name. You can walk in GNC and find alot of products that claim steroid-like results or their names are similar to that of steroids. The roid store appears to push that a little bit with their product names being identical to that of steroids. I personally have never been to their website, just see the banner at the top of this page everyday. With that being said, look at all the commercials on TV that claim to have these miracle weight loss drugs that don't require diet or excercise. Maybe im comparing apples and oranges, but that seems to be the same to me. Just my .02 - im really not that smart though

 

[almost-pro]

Just over 200 posts and you're talking about how the old days were better? GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.

There are alot of peeps here with low post counts that have been around a while. Me being one of them. I posted under another handle prior to 2003 and posted alot, now I just do more reading than anything. I do get in my moods though like today.... or maybe im just bored.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson I understand your point, but we're all adults here (ok there may be some peeps here under 18.) I expect anyone with a grain of intellegince to do some research before they order. I don't agree with the name "Roid Store" as it is misleading. However... so are alot of products sold at GNC based on their name. You can walk in GNC and find alot of products that claim steroid-like results or their names are similar to that of steroids. The roid store appears to push that a little bit with their product names being identical to that of steroids. I personally have never been to their website, just see the banner at the top of this page everyday. With that being said, look at all the commercials on TV that claim to have these miracle weight loss drugs that don't require diet or excercise. Maybe im comparing apples and oranges, but that seems to be the same to me. Just my .02 - im really not that smart though

Not sure what you're saying. I'm not defending or speaking for the Roid store or anyone else. I just said that anyone can, and should , compare and investigate ingredients before buying anything. And I, needto and Omega are here to answer any questions regarding OUR products. Why dismiss the good stuff because there's bad stuff? One thing has nothing to do with the other.

 

[holy ghost]

Nelson you got it bud.

 

[almost-pro]

Not sure what you're saying. I'm not defending or speaking for the Roid store or anyone else. I just said that anyone can, and should , compare and investigate ingredients before buying anything. And I, needto and Omega are here to answer any questions regarding OUR products. Why dismiss the good stuff because there's bad stuff? One thing has nothing to do with the other.

I think we agree then. I tend to not comprehend things very well after I get off of work. Oops

 

[needtogetaas]

Not sure what you're saying. I'm not defending or speaking for the Roid store or anyone else. I just said that anyone can, and should , compare and investigate ingredients before buying anything. And I, needto and Omega are here to answer any questions regarding OUR products. Why dismiss the good stuff because there's bad stuff? One thing has nothing to do with the other.

good post bro..we are always here to answer questions of any kind about products we offer and I for one never bullshit talk the product up.I want say it will do something it has not don for some one already.

yes there are some products here "that no reps work here for" that might claim to do things they dont....lets not forget they are not here on the boards like me,pp,nelson,omega there just here as the banner and thats it...read it and take what you will from it.

 

[loganrott]

WOW..I stirred up the pot a little here I guess...and that's a good thing..but MAYBE I WASN"T CLEAR....My concern is for the dude who doesn't do his homework and simply trusts EVERYthin on the site due to the good members here...then burns his cash and gets spanked. I BELIEVE in Caveat Emptor. And I wasn't bashing AGX, PP or any of the good pruducts here...Hell, i buy the stuff. Anyway, nice to see all the guys who got Monkey Slappers over this thread...YeeHaw from an old Mekong Jarhead...lol...Yeah, I'm an old phartt.

 

[loganrott]

bro logan you sent me the most ridiculous PM I have ever read and I am going to show some some people lol! ! !! ! !

Yeah Bro ..I read it again and laughed my ars off. Us Irish guys talk like that. I realized that my other brain wrote it while I and my other other brain were asleep after a workout, but I'll take full responsibility Cochise. That other fucker is allus dissen me, someday I'll kick his ass outa my cranial sphere, late on his rent again anyway...Pay more attention to getting well Bro.

 

[needtogetaas]

Yeah Bro ..I read it again and laughed my ars off. Us Irish guys talk like that. I realized that my other brain wrote it while I and my other other brain were asleep after a workout, but I'll take full responsibility Cochise. That other fucker is allus dissen me, someday I'll kick his ass outa my cranial sphere, late on his rent again anyway...Pay more attention to getting well Bro.

kind of post like some one I know...

 

[BigGuyPHX]

Just over 200 posts and you're talking about how the old days were better? GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.

Nelson I have a all new found respect for you!!!
"GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE."<<< Thats awesome!!!

I would have to agree EF like many things in life are all about business BUT and I say BUT there are some GOOD products avaiable through this site not to mention the FREE AWESOME FUCKIN ADVICE FROM VETS AND MODS that just kick serious ass.

I say find something real to bitch about and if you dont like it take Nelsons advice and...
"GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!!!"

Thats just my $0.02 pumpkin.

BigG

 

[BigGuyPHX]

Nelson I have a all new found respect for you!!!
"GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE."<<< Thats awesome!!!

I would have to agree EF like many things in life are all about business BUT and I say BUT there are some GOOD products avaiable through this site not to mention the FREE AWESOME FUCKIN ADVICE FROM VETS AND MODS that just kick serious ass.

I say find something real to bitch about and if you dont like it take Nelsons advice and...
"GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!!!"

Thats just my $0.02 pumpkin.

BigG

Fuck that!!!!
I'm not finished!!!
I say blow this fuckin retarted thead up and call it a day!
FUCK!
FUCK!
FUCK!
I hate stupid bullshit like this!

 

[almost-pro]

Fuck that!!!!
I'm not finished!!!
I say blow this fuckin retarted thead up and call it a day!
FUCK!
FUCK!
FUCK!
I hate stupid bullshit like this!

wow.

 

[rfowler]

Not sure what you're saying. I'm not defending or speaking for the Roid store or anyone else. I just said that anyone can, and should , compare and investigate ingredients before buying anything. And I, needto and Omega are here to answer any questions regarding OUR products. Why dismiss the good stuff because there's bad stuff? One thing has nothing to do with the other.

Im with you bro. It comes down to marketing and laziness. The powers that be know that the majority of Americans are quick fix magic pill believers and who can blame them for capitalizing on this? not me shit im all about the dollars. Theres a very easy way to not fall victim to the marketing machine of supplements........you ready for it folks..............USE YOUR BRAIN.....READ. I learned along time ago in my industry that you have to have a mind of your own and if you dont have the desire to inform yourself on your purchases then your a part of the problem and not the solution. The Roid store is laughable I mean come on guys......shit.

 

[BigGuyPHX]

wow.

Yea you should see me when I get really pissed off!!!

LMAO piss running down my leg!!!

BigGuyPHX

Oh yea in case you bros have not seen Ghost motha fuckin 8 rules thread here it is...
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/8-rules-live-while-cycle-568161.html

 

[LAN T]

Just over 200 posts and you're talking about how the old days were better? GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.

Hmm nice. Big talk for such a little man. This is why this place is the Jerry Springer of BB's.

 

[LAN T]

Fuck that!!!!
I'm not finished!!!
I say blow this fuckin retarted thead up and call it a day!
FUCK!
FUCK!
FUCK!
I hate stupid bullshit like this!

Exhibit A.

 

[BigGuyPHX]

Exhibit A.

Heres Exhibit B...

GO FUCK YOUR MOTHER!!!

 

[rfowler]

Exhibit A.

relax bro laugh it off, Nelson is one dude I can say is passionate about supplementation, he and omega are good bro's. Unfortunately like everything else in this world seniority is important and your lack thereof got you dominated, but its not the end of the world. Hang around itll get better as you continue to mold into this community, but if you insist on being a doody face then youll force me to pull out my short stocky penis.......watch out for the guns.....theyll getcha.....

 

[LAN T]

Heres Exhibit B...

GO FUCK YOUR MOTHER!!!

Wow e-courage what a shock. God bless lost one.

 

[rfowler]

Wow e-courage what a shock. God bless lost one.

brother dont even begin to grow a set of balls with me son. before you say some shit youll regret just bounce. Im a fighter so if you want this thing to get real we can make it happen. I can meet you in the cage anytime my friend. If you cant handle getting dominated by Nelson verbally imagine whatll happen when I snap your arm off. Believe me when I say......THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT........and let it be. Now get the fuck out of here.

 

[JohnnyWest]

Bottom line:

EF is a business, just like any other business, their sole goal for existing on the internet is to make money. We view it as a community, but, thats only in our own minds.
The only thing you can do about it is take everything you hear with a grain of salt and do ALL the research you can.

 

[BigGuyPHX]

Whoever smoked "lan t" GOOD FUCKIN JOB BRO!!!

Hey lan t incase you want Exhibit C its on your mothers lips!!!

Fuck you and have a nice night.

Look out for the nasty bite when you fuck with the big dogs!!!

BigGuyPHX OUT!

 

[almost-pro]

its amazing how good posts turn into crap..

 

[needtogetaas]

lets keep it clean guys....

 

[loganrott]

Whoever smoked "lan t" GOOD FUCKIN JOB BRO!!!

Hey lan t incase you want Exhibit C its on your mothers lips!!!

Fuck you and have a nice night.

Look out for the nasty bite when you fuck with the big dogs!!!

BigGuyPHX OUT!

Easy Big Guys. Shit, sorry I started this thread. To late to take it back ???

 

[almost-pro]

Easy Big Guys. Shit, sorry I started this thread. To late to take it back ???

nothing wrong with the question... some of these threads go to hell for no reason.

 

[BigGuyPHX]

Easy Big Guys. Shit, sorry I started this thread. To late to take it back ???

Sorry bros!!!

It just pissed me off seeing lan t talking shit about Nelson.

Then he tried to make me look stupid for callin him out. Oh hell no!!!

I didnt start it and I didnt finish it but I got a few good hits in!

Oh yea... sorry needto but I have been trying to keep it clean but when stupid people take cheap shots at good bros I cant hold my tounge for long.

Thats how the BigPHX rolls!

 

[needtogetaas]

Sorry bros!!!

It just pissed me off seeing lan t talking shit about Nelson.

Then he tried to make me look stupid for callin him out. Oh hell no!!!

I didnt start it and I didnt finish it but I got a few good hits in!

Oh yea... sorry needto but I have been trying to keep it clean but when stupid people take cheap shots at good bros I cant hold my tounge for long.

Thats how the BigPHX rolls!

its alright guys lets just keep it clean from now on..I dropped a cotb bomb on him that will be there a few days not for fighting with people but for talking shit about the site...I dont like that...its all taken care of.

 

[BigGuyPHX]

its alright guys lets just keep it clean from now on..I dropped a cotb bomb on him that will be there a few days not for fighting with people but for talking shit about the site...I dont like that...its all taken care of.

Ok... I'm gana do some yoga, listen to some jazz, drink milkthisle tea, and relax knowing that this thead is cool now.

Thanks needto!

BigPHX

 

[needtogetaas]

Ok... I'm gana do some yoga, listen to some jazz, drink milkthisle tea, and relax knowing that this thead is cool now.

Thanks needto!

BigPHX

lol

 

[rfowler]

Easy Big Guys. Shit, sorry I started this thread. To late to take it back ???

Hey bro sorry I lost my temper there its not like me to do that so my apologies. Your question was one of relevance for the most part, just keep an eye out about dogging EF bro, this place is fantastic and Im sure you can become a good bro here. I can remember when I was new here I got verbally shat on a couple of times and I bucked up at some vets who quickly became mentors for me. AL420 and bluetwisted steel both got me fired up a couple of times and as soon as I calmed down I saw things from their perspective. So again my bad for acting like a child and ill be glad to help you out if you ever need it. Im gonna go grab some protein and finish watching the game. Needto my bad bro sometimes I just lose my freakin mind bro.

 

[GUESS]

lets keep it clean guys....

Boys I gotta admit i'm quite shocked at how some of you are behaving right now, it puts me in mind of grade 6 bullshit!!!!

 

[BigGuyPHX]

Hey bro sorry I lost my temper there its not like me to do that so my apologies. Your question was one of relevance for the most part, just keep an eye out about dogging EF bro, this place is fantastic and Im sure you can become a good bro here. I can remember when I was new here I got verbally shat on a couple of times and I bucked up at some vets who quickly became mentors for me. AL420 and bluetwisted steel both got me fired up a couple of times and as soon as I calmed down I saw things from their perspective. So again my bad for acting like a child and ill be glad to help you out if you ever need it. Im gonna go grab some protein and finish watching the game. Needto my bad bro sometimes I just lose my freakin mind bro.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

I'm sorry too!

Yea bro we all lose it sometimes... hell dog'in EF and Nelson just pushed my GO button.

I feel ya bro... cool post.

BigG

 

[BigGuyPHX]

Boys I gotta admit i'm quite shocked at how some of you are behaving right now, it puts me in mind of grade 6 bullshit!!!!

LOL!!!

Looks whos talkin bro! You had one of the best narly posts ever!!!
Do you remember YOUR post???

"I can't wait to skull f**k that dirty whore little mouth maybe she'll be lucky and i'll bring up her lunch withmy meat pole!! "

You're no angel bro!!! LMAO

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

BigGuyPHX

 

[holy ghost]

psychos.....

 

[almost-pro]

psychos.....

LMAO

 

[rambleon]

LOL!!!

Looks whos talkin bro! You had one of the best narly posts ever!!!
Do you remember YOUR post???

"I can't wait to skull f**k that dirty whore little mouth maybe she'll be lucky and i'll bring up her lunch withmy meat pole!! "

You're no angel bro!!! LMAO

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

BigGuyPHX

ok i'll do that

BigGuyPHX u on tren?

 

[matty420]

Heres Exhibit B...

GO FUCK YOUR MOTHER!!!

LOL i just spit cheerios all over my computer screen bro.

 

[BigGuyPHX]

ok i'll do that

BigGuyPHX u on trenbolone?

LOL!!!

WHY?

 

[BigGuyPHX]

LOL i just spit cheerios all over my computer screen bro.

Dont waste that food bro there are starving kids in Detroit that would kill for that bowl of cheerios!!! No really they would shank you in the neck for cheerios. Cut your head right off for Fruit Loops!

BigPHX

 

[rambleon]

LOL!!!

WHY?

well u DO seem just a tiny bit grumpy these days

 

[almost-pro]

Dont waste that food bro there are starving kids in Detroit that would kill for that bowl of cheerios!!! No really they would shank you in the neck for cheerios. Cut your head right off for Fruit Loops!

BigPHX

fruit loops are good as hell.... too bad they are loaded with sugar. i use to eat the hell out of some fruit loops.

 

[needtogetaas]

Dont waste that food bro there are starving kids in Detroit that would kill for that bowl of cheerios!!! No really they would shank you in the neck for cheerios. Cut your head right off for Fruit Loops!

BigPHX

every time I throw away left overs I feel so dame bad...really I do..I think to myself god some starving kid would kill to eat out of me trash right now...it just ant right.

 

[perryscoon]

The Roid Store isn't real steroids? Holy shit no wonder its not working!