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JCE

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I asked for advice on trt. How long should I cut out the blood work to come back low on T. I was advised to start a log.

Currently cruising on Dr. Administered 160 mgs a week of trt after a heavy test and tren cycle. Around 1000 mgs a week on the blast.

I'm 49 years old about 250# used to heavy multi compound cycles in the past, got injured doing MMA so quit then slowly rehabbed myself back to health. This will be my second cycle back after ten years off. Using the eq and deca to help repair some ligament and tendon damage. I was working out naturally again for years before I hit the needle again.

Planning on beligas injectables. Loved my last test from them.
300 a week test (cyp from trt and enanthate from domestic supply)
300 a week equipoise from domestic supply.
250 a week deca.

3-4 weeks of orals added in at the start.

Pharmaqo XXX which is 33 mgs 2x a day of anadrol, d-bol and winstrol.

I've used all these compounds in the past except Deca. I could increase the deca to 500 a week but I never used it before.

My question is how long before my blood work should I stop all the extras to make sure my numbers are low, I'm trying to get the dose upped to 200 a week test cypionate.

Thanks in advance.
 
Some pictures of before. In the upper body close up I had just started cutting and was about 265 in the other picture I was about 240 I think. Cutting weight to get a light heavyweight fight. Then cutting calories and not going lighter while training very hard resulted in several injuries and I learned a lesson. These pics were around 2011.
 

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JCE said:
I asked for advice on trt. How long should I cut out the blood work to come back low on T. I was advised to start a log.

Currently cruising on Dr. Administered 160 mgs a week of trt after a heavy test and tren cycle. Around 1000 mgs a week on the blast.

I'm 49 years old about 250# used to heavy multi compound cycles in the past, got injured doing MMA so quit then slowly rehabbed myself back to health. This will be my second cycle back after ten years off. Using the eq and deca to help repair some ligament and tendon damage. I was working out naturally again for years before I hit the needle again.

Planning on beligas injectables. Loved my last test from them.
300 a week test (cyp from trt and enanthate from domestic supply)
300 a week equipoise from domestic supply.
250 a week deca.

3-4 weeks of orals added in at the start.

Pharmaqo XXX which is 33 mgs 2x a day of anadrol, d-bol and winstrol.

I've used all these compounds in the past except Deca. I could increase the deca to 500 a week but I never used it before.

My question is how long before my blood work should I stop all the extras to make sure my numbers are low, I'm trying to get the dose upped to 200 a week test cypionate.

Thanks in advance.
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@JCE great to see you start a log, very nice.

At your age, I think a cycle will work perfect and picking @domestic-supply.com is the perfect choice.

On the cycle
If you stack EQ and Deca I would split the dose into 2 injections mon/thur

on the orals I would NOT do anadrol dbol and winstrol all 3 stacked too much pressure bro
you should stick to winstrol

and NEVER go above 200mgs on the deca no need

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diet, please share actual foods and meals and when you eat them ,crucial for us
training, please share actual training sets reps and weights so we can track
same for cardio
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
please list supps you take

pictures
please share more pics of you face blurred as you go
please share meal pics
share training pics
and mainly GEAR pics , you got beligas pics for us? share please :)

keep sharing and stay strong :) EF family here to help you

JCE said:
Some pictures of before. In the upper body close up I had just started cutting and was about 265 in the other picture I was about 240 I think. Cutting weight to get a light heavyweight fight. Then cutting calories and not going lighter while training very hard resulted in several injuries and I learned a lesson. These pics were around 2011.
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you look great in the pics, real big and lean strong body bro :) we will get there
JCE said:
When I used to blast and cruise in the past I would go as high as 2000 mgs a week then cruise at around 400 usually test or test and eq.
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2000mgs thats crazy but oldschool style ;)
 
Ty for the response, yes I'm not a bodybuilder. The phrase we used to use was power builder. I've used all three orals together for short term before. And the results were out of this world. Matter of fact if you replace the deca with tren I've done that cycle before. I'm choosing Deca for the joint support. I have problems, all that running and heavy lifting. I was running 6 miles three times a week before work and heavy lifting after work. training MMA and doing extreme conditioning four times a week. Thought I was Superman on all that gear. The joints gave out. I'm making a last ditch effort to get back in unreal shape while repairing tendon damage. I been dieting hard but super high protein down 20 pounds from 255- 3 months ago to 233. I'm six foot even.

Then probably start training people again either Martial arts or personal training and conditioning or both. I did all that for years.

Ty for the liver support I was looking for some.
 
JCE said:
I asked for advice on trt. How long should I cut out the blood work to come back low on T. I was advised to start a log.

Currently cruising on Dr. Administered 160 mgs a week of trt after a heavy test and tren cycle. Around 1000 mgs a week on the blast.

I'm 49 years old about 250# used to heavy multi compound cycles in the past, got injured doing MMA so quit then slowly rehabbed myself back to health. This will be my second cycle back after ten years off. Using the eq and deca to help repair some ligament and tendon damage. I was working out naturally again for years before I hit the needle again.

Planning on beligas injectables. Loved my last test from them.
300 a week test (cyp from trt and enanthate from domestic supply)
300 a week equipoise from domestic supply.
250 a week deca.

3-4 weeks of orals added in at the start.

Pharmaqo XXX which is 33 mgs 2x a day of anadrol, d-bol and winstrol.

I've used all these compounds in the past except Deca. I could increase the deca to 500 a week but I never used it before.

My question is how long before my blood work should I stop all the extras to make sure my numbers are low, I'm trying to get the dose upped to 200 a week test cypionate.

Thanks in advance.
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You mean come off the test to get a low test level in a blood test right?
 
SteveMobsterG said:
You mean come off the test to get a low test level in a blood test right?
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Yes sir exactly, I have time for another solid blast. I'm thinking six weeks off the injectables and maybe add back in orals for two weeks leaving four total with nothing extra.

Last six weeks only injectable would be my prescribed trt.
Then two weeks of heavy orals with the trt.
The last four weeks before blood work would be only trt.

BTW I'm only gonna blast hard a couple of times then I'll be going pretty low doses. As I don't need much to reach my potential. I understand diet etc already down 20#'s of body fat and added muscle.

My long after the blast will be test, EQ and deca for joint support.
 
Training and workouts

As for workouts they're half geared to the strength and explosive power custom designed for my fighting style. Old-school full contact Karate, boxing, muay thai, and judo "primarily.

A little strong man, work and then drop sets and partials for size, all done intensely to minimize time spent working for the look I like. Function is first for me.
 
your diet sounds very solid good job
you keep that up you'll get great results
 
if you stop all the hormones four or five weeks ahead of time you'll be fine
which Esther have you been using
 
test E is out of your system a bit quicker then cyp
just stop it ahead of your blood work and you'll be good
 
worst case scenario just be up front and honest with your doctor
playing these sorts of games is not plausible long term
 
ROIDDERS said:
if you get it free through your insurance you don't want to lose that
but at the same time you don't want to have to go through this headache every time you get blood work done
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Agreed but it's only every six months and I'm a fan of blasting and low dose cruising so that's why I don't mind I just needed advice. Apparently I was giving myself more time then needed.
 
chesty said:
worst case scenario just be up front and honest with your doctor
playing these sorts of games is not plausible long term
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She's probably gonna see the massive change already honestly. Since I was so bigand in shape before it's coming back quickly now that I'm back on. Dropped twenty pounds of fat and added muscle in a very short time.
 
To be safe, I would wait until you are back on your normal TRT dose for 6 weeks before getting bloods for the doc. Even then, when your test/estrogen levels should be back to normal, you could still see something off with cholesterol or liver values.
 
I keep getting asked to post more about diet and workout.

I work away from home 4 out of 7 days.

My diet is meat and nuts and whey protein almost exclusively while away from home I never ever eat fast food.

The meat is mostly turkey and beef.

The nuts are cashews, almonds, peanuts and sunflower seeds sometimes walnuts.

If I get a sweet tooth I either eat peanut butter and jelly with whey protein mixed in. Or peanut butter, oatmeal and whey protein. But I keep the carbs really low for four days.

When home I eat more things like chilli,turkey cheeseburgers and more carbs then average.

I avoid sugar as much as possible, weakness being the strawberry preserves. Probably the only real sugar I get.

Every day I start the day with two shakes while I study. Equaling a total of about 70-90 grams of protein in the first 45 minutes.

Usually followed by a workout, as Pre-workout and caffeine are included in the shakes.

While cruising I only workout once a day, about 3-4 days strength training,.one or two conditioning and the rest martial arts. sometimes I replace conditioning with martial arts. The heavy blast will have me doing two a days most days, but only half strength and conditioning. The rest martial arts which of course is conditioning.

Absolutely no alcohol ever
 
JCE said:
I keep getting asked to post more about diet and workout.

I work away from home 4 out of 7 days.

My diet is meat and nuts and whey protein almost exclusively while away from home I never ever eat fast food.

The meat is mostly turkey and beef.

The nuts are cashews, almonds, peanuts and sunflower seeds sometimes walnuts.

If I get a sweet tooth I either eat peanut butter and jelly with whey protein mixed in. Or peanut butter, oatmeal and whey protein. But I keep the carbs really low for four days.

When home I eat more things like chilli,turkey cheeseburgers and more carbs then average.

I avoid sugar as much as possible, weakness being the strawberry preserves. Probably the only real sugar I get.

Every day I start the day with two shakes while I study. Equaling a total of about 70-90 grams of protein in the first 45 minutes.

Usually followed by a workout, as Pre-workout and caffeine are included in the shakes.

While cruising I only workout once a day, about 3-4 days strength training,.one or two conditioning and the rest martial arts. sometimes I replace conditioning with martial arts. The heavy blast will have me doing two a days most days, but only half strength and conditioning. The rest martial arts which of course is conditioning.

Absolutely no alcohol ever
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@JCE thats a good update but really there isnt much details bro

what we need is actual foods tracked if you want to cycle and cant track foods you might be off here
if you cant eat enough protein and right carbs or right fats, its not good at all for cycles bro :)

Diet Training
diet, please share actual foods and meals and when you eat them ,crucial for us
training, please share actual training sets reps and weights so we can track
same for cardio
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

JCE said:
I also do service call work, mostly air-conditioning, electrical, and plumbing in this heat.

I work for the biggest landlord in town and keep over 200 rent houses and commercial properties going, working about 9 hrs a day.
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so you do a lot of manual work, you dont need cardio but training and diet is key here especially higher protein imo

JCE said:
Also, I don't workout for looks the clean diet is for health, and I have an huge increase in fruits on my three days off.
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if for health thats even more crucial to see actual diet
omega 3 levels, omega 3:6 rations
and more
 
stevesmi said:
nice man you have excellent skills I could have used the guy like you when I used to own rental properties

AC guys where I live are all scammers you can't find any good ones
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Man ac guys usually do rip people off my boss spent time training me so he wouldn't get so ripped off. Not many people can do the AC work it's very technical.
 
the_alcatraz said:
@JCE thats a good update but really there isnt much details bro

what we need is actual foods tracked if you want to cycle and cant track foods you might be off here
if you cant eat enough protein and right carbs or right fats, its not good at all for cycles bro :)

Diet Training
diet, please share actual foods and meals and when you eat them ,crucial for us
training, please share actual training sets reps and weights so we can track
same for cardio
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.


so you do a lot of manual work, you dont need cardio but training and diet is key here especially higher protein imo


if for health thats even more crucial to see actual diet
omega 3 levels, omega 3:6 rations
and more
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I need the cardio for Martial skills. The conditioning helps to generate more speed and explosiveness. Your absolutely right, I don't need the cardio for fat loss. But the endurance allows me to train longer, that and the EQ DEFINITELY HELPS. I I'll ike

The short time I trained for looks or cutting weight, I logged everything with an app. EVERYTHING, and the results were phenomenal. The strength wasn't as much as when I was just eating and training though.

Trust Me I get everything your saying.
 
keep up the good work I think you have a good head on your shoulders
 
you'll be fine taking four to five weeks off of the gear and then getting the blood work done
 
your doctor isn't stupid she probably will know you're on steroids but who cares as long as you get the script
 
EQ is one of the best for your goals for sure
 
definitely post up some pictures we want to get an idea of your training
 
I find it amazing that you are able to push that lifestyle
 
I'm assuming you don't have a family? being away from home that much has to be hard
 
Great job keeping up with training with how busy life is for u.
 
JCE said:
I need the cardio for Martial skills. The conditioning helps to generate more speed and explosiveness. Your absolutely right, I don't need the cardio for fat loss. But the endurance allows me to train longer, that and the EQ DEFINITELY HELPS. I I'll ike

The short time I trained for looks or cutting weight, I logged everything with an app. EVERYTHING, and the results were phenomenal. The strength wasn't as much as when I was just eating and training though.

Trust Me I get everything your saying.
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@JCE Good updates bro....keep it up........
 
So I was asked to update, I gained over 30#'s on my cycle from domestic supply. All lean at first with serious fat loss. From a high protein low carb diet. Then when I cut out the orals and decreased the dosages I gained the fat back, I also increased carbs at that point. I have no issues with the fat it's easy to get off. I'm currently 271# and have no issues with the extra weight until closer to summer.

I'm currently cruising on 200mgs a week of trt from the doctor. 9 weeks on the cruise, it was 150. Dr. Just upped it to 200 - 3 weeks ago. Waiting on bloodwork results and all that stuff before I blast again. At fifty I have to train around an extreme amount of injuries but I don't let it hold me back.

Considering a test, tren, masteron, EQ and Deca cycle next. Small doses relying on the actual combination to make up for lack of high doses.

I'll be using a lot of basics, plus calisthenics and combination of Martial arts and CrossFit type conditioning to lean up when I do.

Alot of medicine ball work, burpees and explosive work. Usually as a secondary conditioning workout on days off and after heavier workouts. Doing this now just not pushing it as I'm only on trt not trying to kill recovery. Yes I know I tend to do to much, it's my nature.

I'll be staying away from orals from now on, as the orals I was on were definitely too harsh on the liver and kidneys but man did they help strength gain and fat loss. XXX from domestic supply with 33 mgs each, anadrol, dianabol and winstrol each per tablet. Used as a pre-workout only.
 
JCE said:
So I was asked to update, I gained over 30#'s on my cycle from domestic supply. All lean at first with serious fat loss. From a high protein low carb diet. Then when I cut out the orals and decreased the dosages I gained the fat back, I also increased carbs at that point. I have no issues with the fat it's easy to get off. I'm currently 271# and have no issues with the extra weight until closer to summer.

I'm currently cruising on 200mgs a week of trt from the doctor. 9 weeks on the cruise, it was 150. Dr. Just upped it to 200 - 3 weeks ago. Waiting on bloodwork results and all that stuff before I blast again. At fifty I have to train around an extreme amount of injuries but I don't let it hold me back.

Considering a test, tren, masteron, EQ and Deca cycle next. Small doses relying on the actual combination to make up for lack of high doses.

I'll be using a lot of basics, plus calisthenics and combination of Martial arts and CrossFit type conditioning to lean up when I do.

Alot of medicine ball work, burpees and explosive work. Usually as a secondary conditioning workout on days off and after heavier workouts. Doing this now just not pushing it as I'm only on trt not trying to kill recovery. Yes I know I tend to do to much, it's my nature.

I'll be staying away from orals from now on, as the orals I was on were definitely too harsh on the liver and kidneys but man did they help strength gain and fat loss. XXX from domestic supply with 33 mgs each, anadrol, dianabol and winstrol each per tablet. Used as a pre-workout only.
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@JCE thanks for the update. We have missed you in the EF family :) I'm sure @marshmonsta agrees you need to be back in the game with us.

Current cycle
On the @domestic-supply.com cycle, gaining 30lbs is another great review fro Greg. You did well.
Do you have before after pics?

Future cycle
Since you're on TRT, I wouldn't jump into trenbolone, its too toxic and too much of a health issue.
How about we move you from TRT to sports TRT+ with a primobolan base?
300mgs testosterone /week
200mgs primobolan/week
100mgs deca durabolin/week
50mgs proviron/day shbg/free test deca sides
7caps n2guard/day (organ liver support a must)
10mgs cardarine gw/day (cardio fat loss cholesterol control)

Training diet
We'd love for you to share some more training and diet details with us.

If you can share what you can from the list bro :)

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear
 
the_alcatraz said:
@JCE thanks for the update. We have missed you in the EF family :) I'm sure @marshmonsta agrees you need to be back in the game with us.

Current cycle
On the @domestic-supply.com cycle, gaining 30lbs is another great review fro Greg. You did well.
Do you have before after pics?

Future cycle
Since you're on TRT, I wouldn't jump into trenbolone, its too toxic and too much of a health issue.
How about we move you from TRT to sports TRT+ with a primobolan base?
300mgs testosterone /week
200mgs primobolan/week
100mgs deca durabolin/week
50mgs proviron/day shbg/free test deca sides
7caps n2guard/day (organ liver support a must)
10mgs cardarine gw/day (cardio fat loss cholesterol control)

Training diet
We'd love for you to share some more training and diet details with us.

If you can share what you can from the list bro :)

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear
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I have no desire to spend that much time on the Internet. Just had trouble sleeping is why I'm on RN. That and I was doing research for my wife's next cycle on here last few days.

I'm about to crush back, early this morning warmup then start wide grip chins at 271#'s LoL then we'll attack from a variety of angles and ending with high rep work.

I don't experience noticeable sides from tren and love the effects. I'll probably keep the dose low at 100-200 MGS a week. Domestic supply has a blend with 200 test, 100 tren and 100 masteron I'm considering.I've done Pretty high doses before with no noticeable sides. The Deca and EQ despite what some says, really helps with all my injuries.
 
Hey brother nice looking log so far, from what I can see your a powerbuilding beast that is also into MMA,awesome to see that,I do agree with @the_alcatraz you need to get back into the saddle and post some of that training info/pics up i bet you got some unreal numbers on lifts....I can't wait to see💪🦍
 
Actually I'm from that era where powerbuilding was a big thing. Met Branch Warren and Johnnie Jackson. At some shows in Texas I was working at. My numbers are far from what they were, I'm fifty and full of injuries. I used to hit the 150# dumbbells on the incline bench and deadlift over 500# etc... but now I don't do any dumbbell work over 110# and my favorite exercises are strongman press and wide grip pullups. Burpees and medicine ball throws for explosive work.

When hitting it hard I love lots of drop sets.. I'll run the rack down from 50-5 on bent over laterals db curls etc. these are just favorites.

I really do it to stay moving and functional. Keeps the injuries warm and not complaining as much. No other reason at this point.

MMA I do for health and I teach my young wife and all these kids, I make every time I come off the gear.

Again I have done it so long I can't exist without it.
 
Thanks for the reply bro,branch Warren is one of my favourite guys in the game to be honest now that guy had some mad work ethic in the gym and wasn't afraid of super sets and running racks down at all your super lucky to meet the guy👍
I definitely understand where your coming from with injuries and kids and MMA all in the picture but like you said at the end "I can't exist without it"and I'm keen to see some training stuff that you log up,I'd say your lifts would still be up there at your size...loging more info is also going to help you with poeple getting a chance to understand you more aswell.
 
JCE said:
I have no desire to spend that much time on the Internet. Just had trouble sleeping is why I'm on RN. That and I was doing research for my wife's next cycle on here last few days.

I'm about to crush back, early this morning warmup then start wide grip chins at 271#'s LoL then we'll attack from a variety of angles and ending with high rep work.

I don't experience noticeable sides from tren and love the effects. I'll probably keep the dose low at 100-200 MGS a week. Domestic supply has a blend with 200 test, 100 tren and 100 masteron I'm considering.I've done Pretty high doses before with no noticeable sides. The Deca and EQ despite what some says, really helps with all my injuries.
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@JCE how about you start with something simple, share your training with us. can you do that? thats 15min/week

@domestic-supply.com has a good blend test/tren/masteron its good you can just use 1/2 mls maller doses.
 
JCE said:
Actually I'm from that era where powerbuilding was a big thing. Met Branch Warren and Johnnie Jackson. At some shows in Texas I was working at. My numbers are far from what they were, I'm fifty and full of injuries. I used to hit the 150# dumbbells on the incline bench and deadlift over 500# etc... but now I don't do any dumbbell work over 110# and my favorite exercises are strongman press and wide grip pullups. Burpees and medicine ball throws for explosive work.

When hitting it hard I love lots of drop sets.. I'll run the rack down from 50-5 on bent over laterals db curls etc. these are just favorites.

I really do it to stay moving and functional. Keeps the injuries warm and not complaining as much. No other reason at this point.

MMA I do for health and I teach my young wife and all these kids, I make every time I come off the gear.

Again I have done it so long I can't exist without it.
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drop sets are legit, thats perfect bro :) but you doing the big lifts? squats deads?
 
the_alcatraz said:
drop sets are legit, thats perfect bro :) but you doing the big lifts? squats deads?
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Yes I do all the big lifts although no longer heavy. That's always been the core of my training. Especially deadlifts, push presses, strongman presses. Wide grip pullups and rows.

I limit something's like power cleans these days. But until some serious injuries they were staples. I used to deadlift really heavy now I go light.i have SOME DISCS THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH GONE in my lower back.

I still train though remember I'm 50 been lifting since 14 and Martial arts since 4 lol

This is my life..
 
the_alcatraz said:
@JCE how about you start with something simple, share your training with us. can you do that? thats 15min/week

@domestic-supply.com has a good blend test/tren/masteron its good you can just use 1/2 mls maller doses.
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Ok would you rather a day by day or simply an overview at the end of the week?
 
I take my hat off to you brother training all those years like a man possessed by an iron demon and still having good size and strength at 50 I hope I'm still strong as an ox at that age,your log has all the makings to be great you should have called it JCE'S recovery to redemption!...I for one want to see you run something like a test,deca,primo stack drop a touch of weight,shred up for MMA purposes and create a hardened physic that's proper fighter spec would be a mad achievement and something spectacular to see!💪🦍
 
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JCE said:
Ok would you rather a day by day or simply an overview at the end of the week?
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That's great news your going to log JCE if you want have a look at my log so you can get some ideas about layout it will help,you don't need to log everyday but a few times a week is always going to be better and more beneficial in the long run...really excited to see you and your log progress my man I'll definitely be watching and supporting!💪
 
marshmonsta said:
marshmonsta said:
I take my hat off to you brother training all those years like a man possessed by an iron demon and still having good size and strength at 50 I hope I'm still strong as an ox at that age,your log has all the makings to be great you should have called it JCE'S recovery to redemption!...I for one want to see you run something like a test,deca,primo stack drop a touch of weight,shred up for MMA purposes and create a hardened physic that's proper fighter spec would be a mad achievement and something spectacular to see!💪🦍
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Hahaha
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My wife loved the end results of my last cycle I was about 240 lean with abs and obliques.

I'm blessed that she actually cycles with me so there are no complaints about money etc.

As for shredded naah not going that far, but if I can lean out,meaning six pack and obliques at 250# I'll be happy. Never topped 240# super lean before. Won't be hard to do really, I understand the process. But as long as I train the way I like looks are just for the wife. I'm 50 but she's 26.
 
marshmonsta said:
I take my hat off to you brother training all those years like a man possessed by an iron demon and still having good size and strength at 50 I hope I'm still strong as an ox at that age,your log has all the makings to be great you should have called it JCE'S recovery to redemption!...I for one want to see you run something like a test,deca,primo stack drop a touch of weight,shred up for MMA purposes and create a hardened physic that's proper fighter spec would be a mad achievement and something spectacular to see!💪🦍
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I'm considering the primo as the wife wants to try it as well. She's got the bug. All she's done before was EQ every other week at 50 mgs for about 3-4 months. From domestic supply of course.
 
JCE said:
My wife loved the end results of my last cycle I was about 240 lean with abs and obliques.

I'm blessed that she actually cycles with me so there are no complaints about money etc.

As for shredded naah not going that far, but if I can lean out,meaning six pack and obliques at 250# I'll be happy. Never topped 240# super lean before. Won't be hard to do really, I understand the process. But as long as I train the way I like looks are just for the wife. I'm 50 but she's 26.
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That's awesome bro 240 lean with abs and obliques it takes some hard work to achieve, believe me I know this....that is exactly what I ment as shredded especially for big guys like us not to much weight loss but still leanish/stiated.i agree it is a blessing to have a partner who is excepting of what comes with this sport and even better if they participate as well,I'm in the same boat as you my partner lifts more of a power lifting style and she tried some anavar when we meet lol next minute she was cranking 100kg plus deadlifts like nothing.
 
JCE said:
I'm considering the primo as the wife wants to try it as well. She's got the bug. All she's done before was EQ every other week at 50 mgs for about 3-4 months. From domestic supply of course.
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It would be a good add on as it is fairly mild but effective over a length of time,I didn't mind it at all,I only ran fairly low dose with test c and NPP and it helped me cut down in weight,hold alot of strength and recomp to prepare for the bulk I'm on now which has been going 6-8 weeks
 
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I was considering this at 2 shots a week. And adding in some Deca, thoughts?
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I can't see the strength/dosage in picture but looks like a winning stack of compounds bro that with even just low dose deca to lubricate the joints would all work well together 👍
 
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To be honest may even add in some EQ. again I blast and cruise, but I like to blast hard.
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Haha I hear ya my man,two years ago at the age of 40 I decided the blast and cruize method was the way I'd go and I never looked back.....I think the craziest dosage iv ever pushed was around 2700mg anabolics per week.
 
JCE said:
200 test
100 primo
100 masteron
Above would be doubled

Probably 200 Deca
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That would honestly be perfect dosage to run,you can always adjust from there depending on how it all go's💪
 
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marshmonsta said:
That would honestly be perfect dosage to run,you can always adjust from there depending on how it all go's💪
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I never did the primo or masteron before. Looking forward to it. Just waiting until I have some gaps in bloodwork for my trt to blast heavy. I have a new doctor who has also increased my dose so he wants to monitor everything for awhile. I used to blast up to 2000 MGS and other than a near uncontrollable sex drive I had no side effects to talk about.

Now I don't blast over the 1000 MGS range as I built my size and strength in the past, alot of this is about recovery so I can train as hard and often as I like to.

I'm also a believer in running multiple compounds for synergy allowing me to keep overall doses lower.

I didn't cycle until I had been lifting like twenty years so mid thirties for me and I could no longer gain naturally for probably two years. Even then I was about 260#.
 
Okay a little workout log
Saturday was chest, chest and Tris are strong points so I don't do much for them anymore. All bodyweight this week, but remember I'm 270#.

5 sets of dips, done chest fashion leaning way over.
3 sets of pushups done with my feet up.

Finished with some burpees again chest and Tris are such a strong point that's all I need, especially as I was moving over the weekend and limited on time. Typically I do up to fifteen sets.

Sunday was back day. After warming I did.
5 sets wide grip pullups.
5 sets Underhanded chin ups
I set wide grip overhand rows for thirty reps
1 set under hand BB rows for 40 reps
Then 3 sets of 3 dumbbell rows full stretch to contraction.

Later that afternoon my son and I did burpees and medicine ball work. Combined in different ways.

Monday was legs and core.
Careful due to recovering from a torn meniscus. Well gotta go baby needs a bottle and I'm Getting ready for shoulders.
 
JCE said:
I never did the primo or masteron before. Looking forward to it. Just waiting until I have some gaps in bloodwork for my trt to blast heavy. I have a new doctor who has also increased my dose so he wants to monitor everything for awhile. I used to blast up to 2000 MGS and other than a near uncontrollable sex drive I had no side effects to talk about.

Now I don't blast over the 1000 MGS range as I built my size and strength in the past, alot of this is about recovery so I can train as hard and often as I like to.

I'm also a believer in running multiple compounds for synergy allowing me to keep overall doses lower.

I didn't cycle until I had been lifting like twenty years so mid thirties for me and I could no longer gain naturally for probably two years. Even then I was about 260#.
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Your a very sensible guy JCE and I can respect that alot brother you've put in the hard yards as a natural lifter and built an amazing base before you geared up to a new level which in fundamental in achieving a crazy physic I always tell younger guys that it is important to build work ethic and commitment up in the gym as a natty for as long as possible or you'll just look like the majority of lifters that relied on the gear from the start and never end up with good health or the body they wanted.I agree with your views on keeping around that 1gram mark anabolics in total there really isn't much point to going over that but I guess everyone should blast a little high to find their tolerance and check bloods to see how much is too much to handle at least once in a life time lol
 
JCE said:
Okay a little workout log
Saturday was chest, chest and Tris are strong points so I don't do much for them anymore. All bodyweight this week, but remember I'm 270#.

5 sets of dips, done chest fashion leaning way over.
3 sets of pushups done with my feet up.

Finished with some burpees again chest and Tris are such a strong point that's all I need, especially as I was moving over the weekend and limited on time. Typically I do up to fifteen sets.

Sunday was back day. After warming I did.
5 sets wide grip pullups.
5 sets Underhanded chin ups
I set wide grip overhand rows for thirty reps
1 set under hand BB rows for 40 reps
Then 3 sets of 3 dumbbell rows full stretch to contraction.

Later that afternoon my son and I did burpees and medicine ball work. Combined in different ways.

Monday was legs and core.
Careful due to recovering from a torn meniscus. Well gotta go baby needs a bottle and I'm Getting ready for shoulders.
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Thanks for loging and sharing my man it's great to see a bit of workout info from you,it might be body weight but at 270 thats huge bro not many poeple will ever dream about being that heavy in their life well done and looking forward to see more on this log like what supps/vitamins you take and also the food you consume.💪
 
Here's a little daily routine information. I start off the day with a lot of protein. I'm a deeply religious man. So while I'm studying the Bible and early church history, I drink two shakes. First, is animal whey chocolate with powdered peanut butter and instant coffee.
Second is animal whey with muscle tech pre-workout, egg whites lemon juice lime juice and pomegranate juice. I sip these down over probably 1-1.5 hours while studying then I workout. Then typically an egg omelet six whole eggs and cheese with either tortillas or bread. That's most of my processed carbs for the day, usually until an evening meal. Meat, fruit and nuts throughout the day are typical

4-5 days a week I have a second workout nothing heavy except bodyweight. Burpees, medicine ball, Martial arts work. MMA conditioning maybe. Depends on what body part I worked that day and the day before on exactly what I do.

I was blessed in my thirties to train at Dustin Poirier's gym under his coaches.
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Thanks for loging and sharing my man it's great to see a bit of workout info from you,it might be body weight but at 270 thats huge bro not many poeple will ever dream about being that heavy in their life well done and looking forward to see more on this log like what supps/vitamins you take and also the food you consume.💪
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Today was shoulders.
3 warmup sets
5 work sets of barbell presses (rep range of 7-12)
3 sets of strongman presses usually singles to 3 reps
3 sets of alternating snatch high pulls with a single dumbbell
Then 3 compound sets of the following exercises mixed different ways. (For high rep burn)
Bent over laterals
Side laterals
Upright rows
Dumbbell presses

I'll do some conditioning later today.
 
marshmonsta said:
Thanks for loging and sharing my man it's great to see a bit of workout info from you,it might be body weight but at 270 thats huge bro not many poeple will ever dream about being that heavy in their life well done and looking forward to see more on this log like what supps/vitamins you take and also the food you consume.💪
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The bent over rows are done light for high reps due to lower back issues. Anything bent over non supported I do high reps for.

D.B. Rows I can support so go heavy on them. But since MY dumbbells only go to 90# I pre-exhaust as much as possible.
 
JCE said:
Today was shoulders.
3 warmup sets
5 work sets of barbell presses (rep range of 7-12)
3 sets of strongman presses usually singles to 3 reps
3 sets of alternating snatch high pulls with a single dumbbell
Then 3 compound sets of the following exercises mixed different ways. (For high rep burn)
Bent over laterals
Side laterals
Upright rows
Dumbbell presses

I'll do some conditioning later today.
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That's a solid shoulder workout right there bro,very nice💪
 
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Also on my cruise I hit 220 MGS of test cyp in my left lat yesterday. My favorite place to pin is lats.
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Yeah my mate that is 49 loves pinning his lats,I just prefer the quads that way i have lots of room to rotate injection sites to minimise scar tissue
 
JCE said:
The bent over rows are done light for high reps due to lower back issues. Anything bent over non supported I do high reps for.

D.B. Rows I can support so go heavy on them. But since MY dumbbells only go to 90# I pre-exhaust as much as possible.
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Good safe work brother I understand completely my lower back can't handle that bent over row work like it used to either...better to go lighter on the weight and focus on good controlled form then once you feel that mad pump all is good
 
marshmonsta said:
Good safe work brother I understand completely my lower back can't handle that bent over row work like it used to either...better to go lighter on the weight and focus on good controlled form then once you feel that mad pump all is good
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As we age we must adjust... I went so hard I didn't care for years so now I have to be extra careful.
 
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