trinity united my ass

[needtogetarmy]

it isn't breeding terrorists in Iran. the young Iranian population is pro-west. even more so since '03. I think they're being shown the possibilities and they like it.

democracy,whiskey,sexy

sex sells

I agree 100% with this. The majority of Iranians are under 30, want MTV, group sex and probably some cocaine (well...maybe not group sex and cocaine) but they are are pro-West and tired of living under tyranny.

IMO the best thing for the US is to be patient, use the CIA to fight Iran from the inside and let freedom take hold. Liberty and western ideals are working in Turkey and Pakistan (to an extent)

 

[Powerbuilder333]

"no society is as introspective as america".......??? With that statement I sincerely hope you're referring to the very people you deride as the "liberal elite"...........cause they're the only ones doing any kind of "introspecting".

Strike me dead if I've ever used the expression "liberal elite" before now. Talk about your oxymoronic terminology - lol.
Every single year on August 6th and 9th for the past 52 years we as a society commerate the atomic holocost Truman unleased. There are no parades, just a somber remberance.

When has the America government ever supported the Africaneer? We should have, that country was way better off before Mandela took over. The ANC wanted majority rule, and we (as a society) helped them obtain it, so now they're on their happy way to becoming another AIDS infested impoverished African society.

I guess if you're a anti semitic bigot you could argue that by helping Isreal, we've supported terrorism against the Philistines. Fuck 'em. The had their chance to peacefully co-exist.

 

[rykertest]

trinity united my ass

Is that even possible?

 

[needtogetarmy]

When has the America government ever supported the Africaneer? We should have, that country was way better off before Mandela took over. The ANC wanted majority rule, and we (as a society) helped them obtain it, so now they're on their happy way to becoming another AIDS infested impoverished African society.

Good point
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There is a slow genocide going on in South Africa right now. Just like in Zimbabwe in the 1980's.

http://www.africancrisis.org

How Nelson Mandela brought Crime & Murder to South Africa

http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID=11191& (not sure if this link will work)

 

[redsamurai]

Every single year on August 6th and 9th for the past 52 years we as a society commerate the atomic holocost Truman unleased. There are no parades, just a somber remberance.

I was born in 77.........but the only time in my life that I ever saw anyone in the states commemorate hiro and naga was on the fiftieth anniversary. Maybe I missed something, but but aug. 6th and 9th come and go every year with nary a whisper. It's better left forgotten anyway.........not one of humanity's finer moments......regardless if it was a good thing or not.

When has the America government ever supported the Africaneer? We should have, that country was way better off before Mandela took over. The ANC wanted majority rule, and we (as a society) helped them obtain it, so now they're on their happy way to becoming another AIDS infested impoverished African society.

I don't know much about Africa........so admittedly I'm lost. I know who Mandela is, but I'm not aware of too much of what's going on there. But you come across sad that we didn't bomb someone.........as if we somehow missed a great opportunity...???

I guess if you're a anti semitic bigot you could argue that by helping Isreal, we've supported terrorism against the Philistines. Fuck 'em. The had their chance to peacefully co-exist.

No, what Israel is doing isn't terrorism........it's simply opression. And you don't have to be anti semitic to acknowledge that.

 

[Burning_Inside]

Perspectives:

http://www.democrats.com/node/15993

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/obamas-minister-committe_b_91774.html

 

[ceo]

Well, I guess Burning Inside and redsamurai could convert to Islam and move to Iraq or Syria or some nice Islamic law governed country like those.

Nobody will ever agree with everything the gov't does. Hell there's plenty of shit I don't like that is going on. It's still the best place to live I know of. People don't die every day trying to get into China or even the UK. But people from probably almost every country in the world have died trying to come to America.

What the fuck do they know though? I mean they get here and work their asses off and save their money and either get rich or at least provide a better life for their kids so they can achieve more and live free. What do the majority of Americans do? They complain and bitch about shit like you guys are doing here.

 

[mrplunkey]

Well, I guess Burning Inside and redsamurai could convert to Islam and move to Iraq or Syria or some nice Islamic law governed country like those.

Nobody will ever agree with everything the gov't does. Hell there's plenty of shit I don't like that is going on. It's still the best place to live I know of. People don't die every day trying to get into China or even the UK. But people from probably almost every country in the world have died trying to come to America.

What the fuck do they know though? I mean they get here and work their asses off and save their money and either get rich or at least provide a better life for their kids so they can achieve more and live free. What do the majority of Americans do? They complain and bitch about shit like you guys are doing here.

I was thinking the same thing about Burning...

Its obvious that people like him (and Wright) have and incredibly broad range of problems with America. We're not talking a drive to change one aspect of society and make things better -- we're talking "chickens coming to roost" hate.

So burning... why stay here? Why pay taxes and contribute to this globally genocidal system? You realize every income tax dime you pay... every sales tax... every property or payrolltax -- is perpetuating this ruthless, genocidal, global psycho-cop that you so hate.

Wouldn't it be easier to find a country with a system more to your liking and work for change from within it? Why stay here and be such a willing accomplice to this crime?

 

[roadwarrior]

You asked for it - lol.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/chat-conversation/pic-me-my-new-badass-armblades-587507.html

Just looked at arm blade pic -

Damn... how can anyone take someone who looks like this be taken seriously?!? Even more funny is that he thinks he's cool in the pic at the top of the thread! I'll make sure my kids never grow up and act like that.

S

 

[binö]

I don't know much about Africa........so admittedly I'm lost. I know who Mandela is, but I'm not aware of too much of what's going on there. But you come across sad that we didn't bomb someone.........as if we somehow missed a great opportunity...???

No, what Israel is doing isn't terrorism........it's simply opression. And you don't have to be anti semitic to acknowledge that.

this should explain why we supported the Afrikanners...true, apartheid was ugly, but look at the alternative. Aren't you happy now that the evil whites have been punished??
And my opinion on Zionism is this...the Arabs own the whole region and look how oppressed and fucked up it is...they don't deserve israel; why allow them to run the only democracy in the region into the ground with arachaic laws and shitty economics??? I say don't let them spread their bullshit any farther than it already has spread, christ