Transdermal Application

[mm107]

Hey PP, can i get an example of a BASE hormone? im trying to figure this whole thing out and just a bit confused....

im thinking base hormone = raw hormone powder from a source?

Hey PP, this is listed on one of the sources i know...

Testosterone Base
Nandrolone Base
Boldenolone base

im assuming those are hormone bases....

so then these are NOT hormone bases:
Testosterone Decanoate
Stanozolol
Boldenolone Undec

??
Just wondering...This product looks very very promising if it can get near 40% absorption rate.

 

[blut wump]

Raw hormone with no ester attached. Not only do you get more hormone per gram of material (100%) but it's typically even cheaper than with an ester.

 

[Ulter]

I would not try to make a transdermal out of test base. It doesn't allow for any slop, i.e. room for error, in your uptake and application. At least in an ester you've got a cushion against roller coastering your blood levels.

 

[blut wump]

Good point.

 

[Cutt29]

I would not try to make a transdermal out of test base. It doesn't allow for any slop, i.e. room for error, in your uptake and application. At least in an ester you've got a cushion against roller coastering your blood levels.

that and wouldnt it just be easier to inject??? bathing in transdermal testosterone sounds like a pain in the ass

 

[Ulter]

The bathing thing is what I meant by application. You have to apply the exact same amount each time, have the same skin surface each times, etc. There are too many inconsistancies to make any of this practical for cycling.

 

[D_Mac]

The bathing thing is what I meant by application. You have to apply the exact same amount each time, have the same skin surface each times, etc. There are too many inconsistancies to make any of this practical for cycling.

I have cycled Test in a transdermal before and I didn't have any problems, I prefer transdermals to injectibles for a few reasons. First off I get horrible pain and swelling from any injectables I've done. Second base hormones have a short half life, which means I don't have to wait for the amounts to build up in my system, and I don't have to wait for them to slowly clear out of my system. The day I start a cycle is the day I have high levels and a 1-3 days out of cycle I am clear, which means my natural levels come back sooner and I test clean sooner.

And it is not so hard to keep it consistent, why would it be so hard? You put the same number of pumps on the same body parts each time. What are you doing that makes it so hard? dumping random amounts on different parts of the body each time and not rubbing it in or something? I think it is a pretty easy process. Shower, shave, apply x pumps to each area, rub in.

 

[Primordial Performance]

I would not try to make a transdermal out of test base. It doesn't allow for any slop, i.e. room for error, in your uptake and application. At least in an ester you've got a cushion against roller coastering your blood levels.

The ester is cleaved from the hormone before it even reaches the blood stream. Using a hormone with an ester (in a topical) is only going to hurt absorption. Even with a base hormone, there is still a 12-18 hr timed release effect depending on your topical carrier.

Besides, the max flux seen an hour after application mimics a more natural release of hormones. Ie, a burst of testosterone in the morning similar to the bodies natural rhythm. Plus, transdermaly applied base hormones clear the system within days, making for a very quick rebound.

The only pitfall with transdermal testosterone base is excessive aromatization & 5-alpha reduction as it passes the skin. This is why I would opt for nandrolone base in a topical.

Eitherway, topical test base is cheap, powerful, and painless… not to mention very fast acting.

-Pp

 

[Primordial Performance]

Hey PP, this is listed on one of the sources i know...

Testosterone Base
Nandrolone Base
Boldenolone base

im assuming those are hormone bases....

so then these are NOT hormone bases:
Testosterone Decanoate
Stanozolol
Boldenolone Undec

??
Just wondering...This product looks very very promising if it can get near 40% absorption rate.

Yes, you have it right.

FYI, dont mess with 17aa orals in a topical. Most of them are too big of molecules. Besides you getting better oral absorption by taking them orally anway.

-Pp

 

[thebrakes]

The ester is cleaved from the hormone before it even reaches the blood stream. Using a hormone with an ester (in a topical) is only going to hurt absorption. Even with a base hormone, there is still a 12-18 hr timed release effect depending on your topical carrier.

Besides, the max flux seen an hour after application mimics a more natural release of hormones. Ie, a burst of testosterone in the morning similar to the bodies natural rhythm. Plus, transdermaly applied base hormones clear the system within days, making for a very quick rebound.

The only pitfall with transdermal testosterone base is excessive aromatization & 5-alpha reduction as it passes the skin. This is why I would opt for nandrolone base in a topical.

Eitherway, topical test base is cheap, powerful, and painless… not to mention very fast acting.

-Pp

this man speaks the truth on all counts thus far.

not a big TD board here...but there are others, if anyone is interested. lots of people LOVE TD administration. it certainly has its downsides, but there are huge ups as well.