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Today is the day we dropped the bizmap-bimmity on the japanese for fucking with our shiznitz....

jh1

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in 1945, showed them motherfuckers what was up...


Obviously took a terrible toll on people, but in a way you gotta mis those days when everything wasn't so PC...


People step up to your shit and try to fuck with you, they got dealt with....

Today we'll never use the nuke until it's too late and it totally weakens the value of the weapon to begin with...
 
Re: Today is the day we dropped the bizmap-bimmity on the japanese for fucking with o

you're a fuckin idiot bro.

they bombed civilians. They weren't military strikes

why do you america basically rebuilt japan and helped give them all these resources to restore their country?

it was their way of saying "sorry, that was a bit over the top"
 
Re: Today is the day we dropped the bizmap-bimmity on the japanese for fucking with o

calveless wonder said:
you're a fuckin idiot bro.

they bombed civilians. They weren't military strikes

we had to. they attacked us on our soil. we saw what they did to civilians in china. did we REALLY want to wait til they landed on our soil, and raped and murdered our women and grandmas too???

our reaction was swift and deadly. and it worked. the imperialist savage japanese army, that terrorized asia for centuries - massacring and torturing hundreds of thousands - was finally destroyed.

it was also our last military victory.

(funny, we've also killed 100,000 innnocent arabs. no one's crying over that.)

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Re: Today is the day we dropped the bizmap-bimmity on the japanese for fucking with o

calveless wonder said:
you're a fuckin idiot bro.

they bombed civilians. They weren't military strikes

why do you america basically rebuilt japan and helped give them all these resources to restore their country?

it was their way of saying "sorry, that was a bit over the top"


Don't appologize on our behalf, and most certainly don't put words in our mouths, thanks anway.

Death Tolls are always terrible price to pay for war. Many many many men lost their lives in the attacks on pearl harbor, and if we hadn't put an end to the offensive the way we did - the Japanese would have exacted a toll on our civilians far greater than we did on theirs. That's war, if you don't understand that - then you're the fucking idiot.

Now everyone knows the power we wield and they think twice about fucking with us.
 
Re: Today is the day we dropped the bizmap-bimmity on the japanese for fucking with o

What was the estimate of casualties predicted for allied forces to invade Japan, something like half a million taking into account the Japanese mind set to being taken prisoner?
 
Re: Today is the day we dropped the bizmap-bimmity on the japanese for fucking with o

jh1 said:
Now everyone knows the power we wield and they think twice about fucking with us.

yet, strangely enough, the world (especially the US) fears terrorists more than any others.
So who has the power?
 
Re: Today is the day we dropped the bizmap-bimmity on the japanese for fucking with o

calveless wonder said:
you're a fuckin idiot bro.

they bombed civilians. They weren't military strikes

why do you america basically rebuilt japan and helped give them all these resources to restore their country?

it was their way of saying "sorry, that was a bit over the top"

well. . .ummm. . .we do that shit for everyone whose ass we kick. in fact, the u.s. is the ONLY country that unilaterally helps every motherfucker that stands around with their fucking hand out. . .there wouldn't even be a "europe" if it wasn't for the u.s.

on the flip side, we're still the only country in the world that has used nuclear weapons against other human beings. . .i'm a conservative eye-for-an-eye motherfucker but, that's not really something to be proud of imho. . .
 
Re: Today is the day we dropped the bizmap-bimmity on the japanese for fucking with o

blueta2 said:
yet, strangely enough, the world (especially the US) fears terrorists more than any others.
So who has the power?

we don't fear them any more than anyone else. . .we're just the only ones willing to get off our dead asses and do anything about it. . .everyone else just sits back and allows bombs to go off in their metropolitan areas and then they ask us (the US) what we're gonna do about it. . .nearly every free country on the planet has us to thank for their freedom because we stood up when no one else would and said enuff znuff. . .
 
Remember, it took two atomic bombs to force a Japanese surrender and that decision came directly from the emperor. A military coup overthrowing the emperor was almost successful. Dropping those two bombs saved countless civilian lives in Japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Downfall
"In addition, the Japanese had organized the Patriotic Citizens Fighting Corps — which included all healthy men aged 15–60 and women 17–40 — to perform combat support, and ultimately combat jobs. Weapons, training, and uniforms were generally lacking: some men were armed with nothing better than muzzle-loading muskets, longbows, or bamboo spears; nevertheless, they were expected to make do with what they had.[19]"
"One mobilized high school girl, Yukiko Kasai, found herself issued an awl and told, 'Even killing one American soldier will do. … You must aim for the abdomen.'[20]

"Casualty estimates were based on the experience of the preceding campaigns, drawing different lessons:

In a study done by the Joint Chiefs of Staff in April, the figures of 7.45 casualties/1,000 man-days and 1.78 fatalities/1,000 man-days were developed. This implied that a 90-day Olympic campaign would cost 456,000 casualties, including 109,000 dead or missing. If Coronet took another 90 days, the combined cost would be 1,200,000 casualties, with 267,000 fatalities.[33]
A study done by Adm. Nimitz's staff in May estimated 49,000 casualties in the first 30 days, including 5,000 at sea.[34] A study done by General MacArthur's staff in June estimated 23,000 in the first 30 days and 125,000 after 120 days.[35] When these figures were questioned by General Marshall, MacArthur submitted a revised estimate of 105,000, in part by deducting wounded men able to return to duty.[36]
In a conference with President Truman on June 18, Marshall, taking the Battle of Luzon as the best model for Olympic, thought the Americans would suffer 31,000 casualties in the first 30 days (and ultimately 20% of Japanese casualties, which implied a total of 70,000 casualties).[37] Adm. Leahy, more impressed by the Battle of Okinawa, thought the American forces would suffer a 35% casualty rate (implying an ultimate toll of 268,000).[38] Admiral King thought that casualties in the first 30 days would fall between Luzon and Okinawa, i.e., between 31,000 and 41,000.[39]
Of these estimates, only Nimitz's included losses of the forces at sea, though kamikazes had inflicted 1.78 fatalities per kamikaze pilot in the Battle of Okinawa,[40] and troop transports off Kyūshū would have been much more exposed.

A study done for Secretary of War Henry Stimson's staff by William Shockley estimated that conquering Japan would cost 1.7 to 4 million American casualties, including 400,000 to 800,000 fatalities, and five to ten million Japanese fatalities. The key assumption was large-scale participation by civilians in the defense of Japan.[1]
Outside the government, well-informed civilians were also making guesses. Kyle Palmer, war correspondent for the Los Angeles Times, said half a million to a million Americans would die by the end of the war. Herbert Hoover, in memorandums submitted to Truman and Stimson, also estimated 500,000 to 1,000,000 fatalities, and were believed to be conservative estimates; but it is not known if Hoover discussed these specific figures in his meetings with Truman. The chief of the Army Operations division thought them "entirely too high" under "our present plan of campaign."[41]

For context, the Battle of Normandy had cost 63,000 casualties in the first 48 days; and the Battle of Okinawa ran up 72,000 casualties over about 82 days, of whom 18,900 were killed or missing. Several thousand soldiers who died indirectly whether from wounds or other causes at a later date are not included. The entire war cost the United States a total of just over a million casualties, with 400,000 fatalities.

Nearly 500,000 Purple Heart medals were manufactured in anticipation of the casualties resulting from the invasion of Japan. To the present date, all the American military casualties of the sixty years following the end of World War II — including the Korean and Vietnam Wars — have not exceeded that number. In 2003, there were still 120,000 of these Purple Heart medals in stock.[42] There are so many in surplus that combat units in Iraq and Afghanistan are able to keep Purple Hearts on-hand for immediate award to wounded soldiers on the field.[42]"
 
Targeting civilians was nothing new for any side in the war..... Dresden, London, Nanjing...

The use of napalm against Tokyo .....
"After 2 hours of bombardment, Tokyo was engulfed in a firestorm. The fires were so hot they would ignite the clothing on individuals as they were fleeing. Many women were wearing what were called 'air-raid turbans' around their heads, and the heat would ignite those turbans like a wick on a candle. This was the worst disaster for Tokyo since the 1923 earthquake. The death toll was at least 80,000, and perhaps exceeded 100,000. This may have been the most devastating single raid ever carried out by aircraft in any war including the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, and the firebombing of Dresden."(Richard B. Frank, Downfall, p. 17–18.)
 
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