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you need to pad up and try to tackle Herschel Walker. The dude is almost 50 and still looks like he can truck a fool. I was amazed when he said on the apprentice last night that he doesn't eat meat, and hasn't for a very long time. I'd like to know if he was like that when he played. He still looks like a beast. It seriously doesn't look like he's lost a single pound of muscle since he stopped playing, in fact it looks like he might be bigger.....not sure.
 
KillahBee said:
lol at "having muscles" translating to not being a pussy.
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well I think the mans prior NFL career by itself would substantiate him as "not" being a pussy. Yeah, I'm very sure that he supplements, maybe not with roids but most certainly with GH. But roids/gh are catalysts for growth, their not the building blocks. You can roid up all you want, if you're eating 200 calories a day you're not going to grow....right? We've just been told for so long that animal proteins are "the only" way to go. I wonder if he still eats fish though.
 
jnevin said:
Big difference between vegan and vegetarian.
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Is it fish? I don't know for sure if he eats fish or not. He just said he does't eat meat. Like he wouldn't even eat a small piece of the chicken recipe that they had to cook for their task. He didn't even want to taste the sauce that he had cooked with the chicken. I have to admit he's a little bit vaggy for that.
 
redsamurai said:
Is it fish? I don't know for sure if he eats fish or not. He just said he does't eat meat. Like he wouldn't even eat a small piece of the chicken recipe that they had to cook for their task. He didn't even want to taste the sauce that he had cooked with the chicken. I have to admit he's a little bit vaggy for that.
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Vegan won't touch dairy, they won't eat honey because bees work for it, etc. It's more of a cult like belief. It seems once a year some vegan parents will make the news because their infant died malnourished because they wouldn't breastfeed or give formula with any kind of animal products.

I have yet to meet a healthy looking vegan.
 
jnevin said:
Vegan won't touch dairy, they won't eat honey because bees work for it, etc. It's more of a cult like belief. It seems once a year some vegan parents will make the news because their infant died malnourished because they wouldn't breastfeed or give formula with any kind of animal products.

I have yet to meet a healthy looking vegan.
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they won't even eat bee shit? That's fucking hysterical....:lmao:
 
I was an ovo-lacto vegan for awhile.

You have to know what you are doing and eat really healthy otherwise you end up with nutritional deficiencies, B12 is quite common, so engivita yeast supplements are required.

Sea veggies/seaweed is pretty much necessary as well.

I have also been vegetarian for a long time. For the most part, I followed macrobiotics.

I am glad I did, I learned how to cook a lot more foods and in a lot more ways than I would have if I had carried on with a more traditional diet.

I have found that my body does really like to eat meat, I do much better on a really high protein diet.
 
How often do you eat meat? I've completely maintained my mass on eating eat "maybe" once a month. I just had steak last weekend but before that it was ahwile. I eat fish a few times a week, but my main protein intake is from lentils, and supplementary protein is hemp. The hemp protein especially is where I can feel the difference. The stuff I always got from GNC made me gassy and bloaty, you could feel it sit in your stomach. THe hemp protein actually gives me energy after I drink it, in short order. It's fucking amazing. The reason for that apparently is that undisturbed vegetable proteins pass the gut lining without much of a to-do. But the isolates, like whey, although they have a higher protein content they do not become as bioavailable as the vegetable sources. That was the claim with the Isopures' was that they made a digestable why protein. But apparently once the temperature of the bottle changes "just one degree", the stability of the protein ions is destroyed.......I dunno, just what i've been reading.



Tatyana said:
I was an ovo-lacto vegan for awhile.

You have to know what you are doing and eat really healthy otherwise you end up with nutritional deficiencies, B12 is quite common, so engivita yeast supplements are required.

Sea veggies/seaweed is pretty much necessary as well.

I have also been vegetarian for a long time. For the most part, I followed macrobiotics.

I am glad I did, I learned how to cook a lot more foods and in a lot more ways than I would have if I had carried on with a more traditional diet.

I have found that my body does really like to eat meat, I do much better on a really high protein diet.
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redsamurai said:
How often do you eat meat? I've completely maintained my mass on eating eat "maybe" once a month. I just had steak last weekend but before that it was ahwile. I eat fish a few times a week, but my main protein intake is from lentils, and supplementary protein is hemp. The hemp protein especially is where I can feel the difference. The stuff I always got from GNC made me gassy and bloaty, you could feel it sit in your stomach. THe hemp protein actually gives me energy after I drink it, in short order. It's fucking amazing. The reason for that apparently is that undisturbed vegetable proteins pass the gut lining without much of a to-do. But the isolates, like whey, although they have a higher protein content they do not become as bioavailable as the vegetable sources. That was the claim with the Isopures' was that they made a digestable why protein. But apparently once the temperature of the bottle changes "just one degree", the stability of the protein ions is destroyed.......I dunno, just what i've been reading.
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I have hemp protein that is disgusting.

I don't use whey protein that much, in fact, I try to avoid it.

Typically I will have some with oats in the morning, sometimes post work-out.

I have odd days where I don't have meat in every meal, sometimes I have tofu, eggs or cottage cheese, but for the most part, it is every meal, and I have 4-7 meals a day.

I mix up the type of meat, chicken, turkey, chicken, and beef are basically my main sources of protein.
 
Tatyana said:
I have hemp protein that is disgusting.

I don't use whey protein that much, in fact, I try to avoid it.

Typically I will have some with oats in the morning, sometimes post work-out.

I have odd days where I don't have meat in every meal, sometimes I have tofu, eggs or cottage cheese, but for the most part, it is every meal, and I have 4-7 meals a day.

I mix up the type of meat, chicken, turkey, chicken, and beef are basically my main sources of protein.
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really? my hemp protein just tastes like peanut powder, not bad but not great on it's own. I just mix it with banana's and peanut butter and some chocolate milk.

I get my hemp protein from manitobaharvest.




Tatyana said:
I have hemp protein that is disgusting.

I don't use whey protein that much, in fact, I try to avoid it.

Typically I will have some with oats in the morning, sometimes post work-out.

I have odd days where I don't have meat in every meal, sometimes I have tofu, eggs or cottage cheese, but for the most part, it is every meal, and I have 4-7 meals a day.

I mix up the type of meat, chicken, turkey, chicken, and beef are basically my main sources of protein.
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redsamurai said:
really? my hemp protein just tastes like peanut powder, not bad but not great on it's own. I just mix it with banana's and peanut butter and some chocolate milk.

I get my hemp protein from manitobaharvest.
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redsamurai said:
really? my hemp protein just tastes like peanut powder, not bad but not great on it's own. I just mix it with banana's and peanut butter and some chocolate milk.

I get my hemp protein from manitobaharvest.
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This one is from myprotein.co.uk, it is unflavoured, unsweetened and it is green.

It looks more like a mud face mask than something you eat.

I love their other unflavoured whey proteins, this is just minging.
 



 
jnevin said:
Vegan won't touch dairy, they won't eat honey because bees work for it, etc. It's more of a cult like belief. It seems once a year some vegan parents will make the news because their infant died malnourished because they wouldn't breastfeed or give formula with any kind of animal products.

I have yet to meet a healthy looking vegan.
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I have a "vegan" friend that lives in baltimore. She is smokin hot. However i agree that 99% of vegans are cultist hypocrites that push there diet/cause worse than religious fanatics!
 
I just can't identify with people that don't eat meat...unless it's for medical/religious reasons. PETA zealot types make me sick.
 
I say if it makes them happy, then WTF do I care?

More bloody beef for me. :D

I am still trying to figure how it is that there are fat vegetarians. I mean, if it is supposed to be a *healthier way* of eating then shouldn't they be "not fat" at the very least?

I have serious digestive issues and to be honest, I've never noticed a difference in the way my tummy and bowels feel when I eat fish or tofu as opposed to chicken, beef, eggs. :whatever: ... so I honestly don't *get it*. Dairy is a different story but that isn't because it is an animal product. It is because of the lactose.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
I say if it makes them happy, then WTF do I care?

More bloody beef for me. :D

I am still trying to figure how it is that there are fat vegetarians. I mean, if it is supposed to be a *healthier way* of eating then shouldn't they be "not fat" at the very least?

I have serious digestive issues and to be honest, I've never noticed a difference in the way my tummy and bowels feel when I eat fish or tofu as opposed to chicken, beef, eggs. :whatever: ... so I honestly don't *get it*. Dairy is a different story but that isn't because it is an animal product. It is because of the lactose.
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MacDonald's french fries are vegetarian. So are chocolate bars and potatoe crisps, cakes and biscuits/cookies.

I met a veggie that didn't like vegetables.

Vegetarian is not healthier if you don't know what you are doing.

I think some people do better with less meat, some need to eat meat.
 
Tatyana said:
MacDonald's french fries are vegetarian. So are chocolate bars and potatoe crisps, cakes and biscuits/cookies.

I met a veggie that didn't like vegetables.

Vegetarian is not healthier if you don't know what you are doing.

I think some people do better with less meat, some need to eat meat.
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To be honest I'd always assumed that vegetarians also stayed away from processed foods as EVERYONE knows how unhealthy those are. And I'd also assumed that most didn't eat eggs or anything made with eggs which eliminates the cake/cookie/biscuit/pasta/bread issue.

Damn, how can people be SO SILLY? To give up wonderful sources of protein and substitute filling low/no nutritional value processed foods thinking that they are *doing something healthy*?

There was a board member on the women's board from waaaaaaaaay back. Her screenname was MS. Everyone assumed (even one of the most knowledgeable individuals online or anywhere when it came to women and anabolics) she joosed. Not only was she natty, but she was a vegetarian as well! You should run a search on her Tat and see if any pics she posted waaaaaaaaay back still exist. She really REALLY blew everybody's mind.

Oh yea... and she was a bit older if memory serves, like late 30's/early 40's which raises her level of accomplishment to a whole nuther level.
 
I was a veggie mostly because I just went off meat, I thought it was really, really gross.

I couldn't bring myself to handling meat, so I didn't.

I don't think being healthy is the only reason, I have known young ones who are disgusted when they find out burgers are from those cute cows.

People also become veggie for political and environmental reasons. Those veggies don't last that long. :)
 
Tatyana said:
MacDonald's french fries are vegetarian. So are chocolate bars and potatoe crisps, cakes and biscuits/cookies.

I met a veggie that didn't like vegetables.

Vegetarian is not healthier if you don't know what you are doing.

I think some people do better with less meat, some need to eat meat.
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Tatyana
U playing the double entendre game?
That statement has metaphorical genius written all over it.
Morning Tat. :)
 
Tatyana said:
MacDonald's french fries are vegetarian. So are chocolate bars and potatoe crisps, cakes and biscuits/cookies.

I met a veggie that didn't like vegetables.

Vegetarian is not healthier if you don't know what you are doing.

I think some people do better with less meat, some need to eat meat.
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That is exactly the point!

I personally need meats...
 
I wasn't really a full on vegetarian but for many years of my adult life I was also "grossed out" by meat. I told myself that it was unhealthy for me and I survived on a very limited diet of pasta and veggies, waffles, breads, pancakes, etc, sprinkled with binges on foods that weren't good for me that I would eat in mass quantities when I couldn't resist the cravings that came from such an unbalanced diet. I don't have to tell you that not only did I FEEL like crap... but I LOOKED LIKE CRAP. LOL

Then I got in with the whole "bodybuilding" - eat all kinds of healthy, good-for-me, varied foods which included all sorts of meats and nearly eliminating processed foods. Eating clean. Eating more frequent, smaller portions and I started to FEEL and *surprize* *surprize* LOOK BETTER.

I've tried to eliminate all sorts of foods from my diet due to GI issues and I found that as long as I eat clean, not fried or greasy, not too too much fat, sugar I feel much better. Matter of fact I can't remember the last time (last Friday LOL) I had a real sugary treat. If the Old Grump didn't buy them, I don't keep them in the house. I will have a bit here and there but if I eat more than a serving or two I get sick and not very pleasant to be around.

I NEED to eat meat. I just have to limit dairy because too much of it really does a number on my insides.

I could care less that bambie got some buckshot in his butt. His point is to *serve me*. If the hide isn't too full of holes then I get shoes, a handbag and a nice coat. LOL
 
I don't know of many carniverous anomals that are standing in a corn field waiting for the crop to ripen.... We are by design made to consume flesh. Not eating meat unless you can't digest it (from a life of eating improperly or some new and improved medical affliction)is kinda strange.

I lived with a real vegetarian in the past, she came over and threw out all the meat in my freezer. She said she could tell I ate meat when I was on the road. All her friends ate no animal products AT ALL. No cakes, cookies, snacks, pasta, anything made in a factory. Breakfast was grain and soy nuts, lunch was a combination of lettuce and cabbage with pine nuts from a bulk store that processed them there. Dinner was a vegatable either raw or dipped in hot water with a sprinking of gauva, papaya, mango juice for sweetness.....

Her only socially redeeming value was she had huge bewbies and a great body (course she was 24)

I was never so glad to have someone hit the road, I celebrated by having my buds over and BBQ'ing ribs,steaks,chicken and three small children.
 
grumpy old man said:
i don't know of many carniverous anomals that are standing in a corn field waiting for the crop to ripen.... We are by design made to consume flesh. Not eating meat unless you can't digest it (from a life of eating improperly or some new and improved medical affliction)is kinda strange.

I lived with a real vegetarian in the past, she came over and threw out all the meat in my freezer. She said she could tell i ate meat when i was on the road. All her friends ate no animal products at all. No cakes, cookies, snacks, pasta, anything made in a factory. Breakfast was grain and soy nuts, lunch was a combination of lettuce and cabbage with pine nuts from a bulk store that processed them there. Dinner was a vegatable either raw or dipped in hot water with a sprinking of gauva, papaya, mango juice for sweetness.....

Her only socially redeeming value was she had huge bewbies and a great body (course she was 24)

i was never so glad to have someone hit the road, i celebrated by having my buds over and bbq'ing ribs,steaks,chicken and three small children.
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lol!!!!
 
BIKINIMOM said:
I wasn't really a full on vegetarian but for many years of my adult life I was also "grossed out" by meat. I told myself that it was unhealthy for me and I survived on a very limited diet of pasta and veggies, waffles, breads, pancakes, etc, sprinkled with binges on foods that weren't good for me that I would eat in mass quantities when I couldn't resist the cravings that came from such an unbalanced diet. I don't have to tell you that not only did I FEEL like crap... but I LOOKED LIKE CRAP. LOL

Then I got in with the whole "bodybuilding" - eat all kinds of healthy, good-for-me, varied foods which included all sorts of meats and nearly eliminating processed foods. Eating clean. Eating more frequent, smaller portions and I started to FEEL and *surprize* *surprize* LOOK BETTER.

I've tried to eliminate all sorts of foods from my diet due to GI issues and I found that as long as I eat clean, not fried or greasy, not too too much fat, sugar I feel much better. Matter of fact I can't remember the last time (last Friday LOL) I had a real sugary treat. If the Old Grump didn't buy them, I don't keep them in the house. I will have a bit here and there but if I eat more than a serving or two I get sick and not very pleasant to be around.

I NEED to eat meat. I just have to limit dairy because too much of it really does a number on my insides.

I could care less that bambie got some buckshot in his butt. His point is to *serve me*. If the hide isn't too full of holes then I get shoes, a handbag and a nice coat. LOL
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I think they typically shoot animals in the head, right between the eyes. :jenscat

It was bodybuilding that got me into eating meat as well again.

I really should have realised I do well on high protein diets, when I first became veggie I craved tofu all the time and couldn't get enough of it in me.

I did learn a lot more about cooking and a much wider variety of whole foods, which has been a huge bonus for BBing.
 
Tatyana said:
I think they typically shoot animals in the head, right between the eyes. :jenscat

It was bodybuilding that got me into eating meat as well again.

I really should have realised I do well on high protein diets, when I first became veggie I craved tofu all the time and couldn't get enough of it in me.

I did learn a lot more about cooking and a much wider variety of whole foods, which has been a huge bonus for BBing.
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Actually they shoot bambi in the center of the chest or so, cattle they use a captive bolt (bout 6" long)and hit them in the head an X between their eyes and horns, then they hang it upside down and put a knife in the spot above the throat and cut the vein by the heart and bleed them out.

with chickens they hand them upside down on a long conveyor and a v shaped blade cuts off their head.

Other than that I lived near a corn field and when they harvested the corn I could hear the screaming ears over the machines...
 
I actually respect vegans quite a lot But only the proper ones and not the pussy ones. Some people are vegans cause they're pussies, some are vegans cause that's just their choice. If you catch my drift
 
Tatyana said:
I think they typically shoot animals in the head, right between the eyes. :jenscat

It was bodybuilding that got me into eating meat as well again.

I really should have realised I do well on high protein diets, when I first became veggie I craved tofu all the time and couldn't get enough of it in me.

I did learn a lot more about cooking and a much wider variety of whole foods, which has been a huge bonus for BBing.
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I think they just try and shoot anywhere, but I think they try for the heart

I have cottage cheese cravings, had them my whole life. i wonder why
 
on a side not lol that he got traded from the boys and then they go on to win 3 rings
how many did walker get again red or dt? hahahahhaah
 
eliteandy said:
I have a "vegan" friend that lives in baltimore. She is smokin hot. However i agree that 99% of vegans are cultist hypocrites that push there diet/cause worse than religious fanatics!
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useless without pics
 
ive been vegetarian for about 10 years now and decided to go vegan about a year ago.

here are some basic terms and definitions in case anyone is unsure of what they mean.

vegetarian - excludes poultry, red meat, and fish (basically all meat)
lacto-vegetarian - includes dairy products but excludes eggs
ovo-vegetarian - includes eggs but no dairy
vegan - no animal products of any kind
raw-vegan - only uncooked non-animal products
pescetarian - includes seafood, excludes other forms of meat
 fruitarian - only includes the fruit of plants

there are a shitload of misconceptions about a lot of these diets and ill tell ya one thing.. any group of people has a segment of idiots within them. being bodybuilders, you know better than most that those idiots are usually the ones who make the headlines.. and misrepresentation then runs rampant.

people who lack basic understanding of proper nutrition, regardless of being vegetarian or vegan always run the risk of being unhealthy.

along side that, being an asshole is another universal affliction. people are people first and then however they label themselves or whatever practices they indulge in come to follow. so not everyone who follows a diet like these is a self righteous douchebag.

ive never had problem with people who have an omni diet, thats their choice and they have every right to live as they see fit, just like everyone else.

im sure if you saw me on the street or in the gym (and this probably goes for most of the vegetarians out there,) there would be nothing to clue you in as to my dietary choices - im not pale or malnourished looking, nor am i a stick figure, and i certainly dont lack any aggression.

my stats are pretty average right now, so depending on how my goals change - with regard to body composition, im sure ill encounter some challenges.. but i look forward to burying them. :destroy:
 
jnevin said:
Vegan won't touch dairy, they won't eat honey because bees work for it, etc. It's more of a cult like belief. It seems once a year some vegan parents will make the news because their infant died malnourished because they wouldn't breastfeed or give formula with any kind of animal products.

I have yet to meet a healthy looking vegan.
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Orly?

lolol

Bumped for blue. In yo face bish
 
Blue won't be around this weekend. She's busy getting tipsy somewhere. She hardly ever drinks so it doesnt take much (6 beers, 4 shots) to get her tipsy.
 
stunner_best said:
Blue won't be around this weekend. She's busy getting tipsy somewhere. She hardly ever drinks so it doesnt take much (6 beers, 4 shots) to get her tipsy.
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I wonder if she learned about getting drunk and random-boned in Internet Naturopathy school.
 
If you don't eat meat for health or religious reasons then fine. However I have no patience for people who go on about animal cruelty while at the same time they're wearing shoes made by some 8 yr old Guatemalan boy or jeans made by an Indian woman locked in factory for 14 hours a day 7 days a week. Let's save animals by eating less meat and more fruit/veggies picked by undocumented Messicans with no health insurance who get paid $5 a bushel...cuz reasons.
 
Dial_tone said:
If you don't eat meat for health or religious reasons then fine. However I have no patience for people who go on about animal cruelty while at the same time they're wearing shoes made by some 8 yr old Guatemalan boy or jeans made by an Indian woman locked in factory for 14 hours a day 7 days a week. Let's save animals by eating less meat and more fruit/veggies picked by undocumented Messicans with no health insurance who get paid $5 a bushel...cuz reasons.
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Angry black man!
 
Dial_tone said:
If you don't eat meat for health or religious reasons then fine. However I have no patience for people who go on about animal cruelty while at the same time they're wearing shoes made by some 8 yr old Guatemalan boy or jeans made by an Indian woman locked in factory for 14 hours a day 7 days a week. Let's save animals by eating less meat and more fruit/veggies picked by undocumented Messicans with no health insurance who get paid $5 a bushel...cuz reasons.
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I completely agree with the sentiment. Humans first.

If all fairness, if that Indian woman locked in the factory is making eight times the region's average per capita income and feeding an entire family, she may be looking at that job like you look at a bubble ass poured into some skin-tight yoga pants.

Maintain perspective -- Your bootylicous ass is my wobble-wobble-barf behind.
 
mrplunkey said:
I completely agree with the sentiment. Humans first.

If all fairness, if that Indian woman locked in the factory is making eight times the region's average per capita income and feeding an entire family, she may be looking at that job like you look at a bubble ass poured into some skin-tight yoga pants.

Maintain perspective -- Your bootylicous ass is my wobble-wobble-barf behind.
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Gutdamnit rob bootylicious asses are beyond reproach
 
mrplunkey said:
I completely agree with the sentiment. Humans first.

If all fairness, if that Indian woman locked in the factory is making eight times the region's average per capita income and feeding an entire family, she may be looking at that job like you look at a bubble ass poured into some skin-tight yoga pants.

Maintain perspective -- Your bootylicous ass is my wobble-wobble-barf behind.
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Because many people making 8 times the regional average typically find themselves having to work 7 days a week 14hr/day. You are continuously without any merit whatsoever.
 
redsamurai said:
Because many people making 8 times the regional average typically find themselves having to work 7 days a week 14hr/day. You are continuously without any merit whatsoever.
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That's because you and your liberal retard friends would rather her not be "exploited". That way she and her entire family can starve quietly in peace. But who knows, there's always the sex industry or maybe she can sell off a lung or kidney on the black market.

Of course, how would anyone expect you to understand the value of work? You'd have to put down the gaming controller, put down the bong, get your dead ass off the couch, leave your mom's basement and get a job to figure that out.
 
mrplunkey said:
That's because you and your liberal retard friends would rather her not be "exploited". That way she and her entire family can starve quietly in peace. But who knows, there's always the sex industry or maybe she can sell off a lung or kidney on the black market.

Of course, how would anyone expect you to understand the value of work? You'd have to put down the gaming controller, put down the bong, get your dead ass off the couch, leave your mom's basement and get a job to figure that out.
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once more, because people making 8 times the regional average typically find themselves working 24/7.
 
mrplunkey said:
You'd have to put down the gaming controller, put down the bong, get your dead ass off the couch, leave your mom's basement and get a job to figure that out.
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don't listen RedScam

ride on mom's tit as long as u can!

demoing the daily rat race maybe a viable alternative before you start packing stuff up in your mom's basement
 
redsamurai said:
Because many people making 8 times the regional average typically find themselves having to work 7 days a week 14hr/day. You are continuously without any merit whatsoever.
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Bitch please. I make 10x my local avg salary and am only required to be in the office 36 hrs a week
 
mrplunkey said:
That's because you and your liberal retard friends would rather her not be "exploited". That way she and her entire family can starve quietly in peace. But who knows, there's always the sex industry or maybe she can sell off a lung or kidney on the black market.

Of course, how would anyone expect you to understand the value of work? You'd have to put down the gaming controller, put down the bong, get your dead ass off the couch, leave your mom's basement and get a job to figure that out.
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Real talk here - people line up for those jobs and the chance to get slightly above toe poverty line.
 
jnevin said:
Vegan won't touch dairy, they won't eat honey because bees work for it, etc. It's more of a cult like belief. It seems once a year some vegan parents will make the news because their infant died malnourished because they wouldn't breastfeed or give formula with any kind of animal products.

I have yet to meet a healthy looking vegan.
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I'm a vegan.
 
I just bought a nutribullet juice extractor, and every single raw food drink I've made has given me the shits. How do vegans accomplish anything with all this time spent on the toilet?
 
redsamurai said:
you need to pad up and try to tackle Herschel Walker. The dude is almost 50 and still looks like he can truck a fool. I was amazed when he said on the apprentice last night that he doesn't eat meat, and hasn't for a very long time. I'd like to know if he was like that when he played. He still looks like a beast. It seriously doesn't look like he's lost a single pound of muscle since he stopped playing, in fact it looks like he might be bigger.....not sure.
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I'm a vegan and I make grown men cry.
 
redsamurai said:
well I think the mans prior NFL career by itself would substantiate him as "not" being a pussy. Yeah, I'm very sure that he supplements, maybe not with roids but most certainly with GH. But roids/gh are catalysts for growth, their not the building blocks. You can roid up all you want, if you're eating 200 calories a day you're not going to grow....right? We've just been told for so long that animal proteins are "the only" way to go. I wonder if he still eats fish though.
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Makes no difference. No strength loss, no muscle loss. Just health benefits.
 
How about bugs? Simple creatures have no feelings and contain a certain amount of nutritional value.
 
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