Tips for Hard Gainers?

[ceo]

back on topic: the suggestion to do alot of curls (and basically most iso exercises) is a bit out of place for a guy who hasn't already built up a base through lots of compound exercises..

THERE YA GO!!!! I think this was really all djeclipse was trying to say too.

If you're a 250 lb BB'er, do those curls to get that extra 1/2 inch growth/pump on your bi's, but if you're not sporting a MINIMUM of 3 to 3.5 lbs. of bodyweight per inch of height, at a reasonably low bodyfat level (I'd say 10% or less), then don't worry about curls, just get more mass. Of course if you're satisfied being a smaller guy, do your curls anyway. Hell, do whatever is working for you.

 

[djeclipse]

THERE YA GO!!!! I think this was really all djeclipse was trying to say too.

If you're a 250 lb BB'er, do those curls to get that extra 1/2 inch growth/pump on your bi's, but if you're not sporting a MINIMUM of 3 to 3.5 lbs. of bodyweight per inch of height, at a reasonably low bodyfat level (I'd say 10% or less), then don't worry about curls, just get more mass. Of course if you're satisfied being a smaller guy, do your curls anyway. Hell, do whatever is working for you.

lol, you got sucked back into this thread... I knew you couldn't resist for ever.

Pretty much ya. I do agree that there is a point where you have packed on so much muscle mass (not fat) for your frame that you aren't really going to grow any more (unless you're willing to take a shit load of GH, TEST and what ever else you can get your hands on). At that point I can see where trying to get every 3/16" of size you can get, and maybe doing curls will give it to you ( the perpetual pump mentioned before).

But lets be honest, fake internet stats aside, there is a very small % of us that are truly at the stage. 99.9% of the people you see at the gym, and on the internet forums are no where near that point, yet still think they need to do the w/o that .1% is doing, and believe that it's going to be optimal for them.

For those people, myself included, if you are training core lifts (the lifts that are optimal for growth) then the isloation work is a waste of time as it is not what makes your body grow and more specifically, it is not what makes your arms grow. The heavy compound lifts is what makes your entire body grow, including your arms.

 

[silver_shadow]

You may very well have been able to go back to deep sleep, some can reach that state much better/ easier then others.

i kept thinking it was the milk that made me feel sleepy all over again.

 

[djeclipse]

i kept thinking it was the milk that made me feel sleepy all over again.

I read somewhere that calcium can make you sleepy, they were talking about pills though. Maybe it was the Milk!

 

[o.g.swole]

dj: I completely understand the point you are trying to make, but do not say that isolation exercises are a waste of time please as we all know this is false. The study that you continue to show might be "scientific" but there are way too many variables such as diet that were not accounted for, making the study useless.

 

[monty2589]

Does Squats make your arms grow? If so, how?

 

[dabuffguy]

Does Squats make your arms grow? If so, how?

Yes. Lifting your larger muscles will stimulate release of high amounts of growth hormone and testosterone for repair, going to the entire body.

 

[ceo]

Does Squats make your arms grow? If so, how?

didn't someone post a link to the article by Stuart McRobert about this already?

 

[djeclipse]

didn't someone post a link to the article by Stuart McRobert about this already?

i believe it's in there somewhere.

monty2589 just doesn't want to take the time to read the thread.

 

[monty2589]

i believe it's in there somewhere.

monty2589 just doesn't want to take the time to read the thread.

That's true..lol..I hadn't been keeping up with the thread and I didn't feel like searching the thread to see if someone had posted anything about it yet.