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the zimmerman "omg racist!!!" shooting in florida of the kid

Some are trying to posture the killing as racist and others are trying to us it to attack "stand your ground" laws.

Both efforts are political exploitation of a terrible situation.
WTF?

I guess nobody remember the boy who got killed and was in a bad situation?
 
who gives a fuck about the politicians and the media and all the other bullshit. really. who really cares? i certainly dont give a rats ass.
just prosecute this douchebag for the senseless murder.
the end.

Indeed, let the process work; A Hispanic gunned down a black kid for no or limited reason..maybe he was physically assaulted but it doesn't justify lethal force. Can we just ignore anything promoted by the race baiters that make their living on hype and bullshit about racism.
 
no, i don't believe in predetermined thought/fate for any race or person.
but culture, society, and upbringing definetly molds peeps into seeing things differently...notice how there is a significant difference in this muder amongst whites and blacks...the former are pissed but see it as a straight fwd murder...the latter see it as a civil rights issue encompassing much more than just a murder.

If both 'sides' agree there is substantial evidence to deem this man guilty of murder, why is this dude still running free? Just recently, the whole world screamed not guilty to Travis Davis due to substantial evidence pointing toward his innocence yet dude was executed. The system is fuked up. What you and I think doesn't matter, the system will do what it will.

At fist I was shocked, this dude was still free, but then I remembered it seemed to be the trend nowadays to find obviously guilty killers not guilty. I hope that doesn't happen again, but I wouldn't be shocked it does.

signed,
black person
 
If both 'sides' agree there is substantial evidence to deem this man guilty of murder, why is this dude still running free? Just recently, the whole world screamed not guilty to Travis Davis due to substantial evidence pointing toward his innocence yet dude was executed. The system is fuked up. What you and I think doesn't matter, the system will do what it will.

At fist I was shocked, this dude was still free, but then I remembered it seemed to be the trend nowadays to find obviously guilty killers not guilty. I hope that doesn't happen again, but I wouldn't be shocked it does.

signed,
black person
It's horrible that the person wasn't held for more questioning and horrible that the local sheriff isn't investing more. If the feds find out more and find that he's guilty, then the local sheriff has some explaining to do.

signed
a human being...


































...who wants to see your tits (sorry, the seriousness of the thread had to stop).
 
It's horrible that the person wasn't held for more questioning and horrible that the local sheriff isn't investing more. If the feds find out more and find that he's guilty, then the local sheriff has some explaining to do.

signed
a human being...

I call bull. I am an expert in human beings and most human beings dont see each other as such so choose your color.....or else. It helps alot in profiling you. thnx bro.

...who wants to see your tits (sorry, the seriousness of the thread had to stop).

More bullshit. My tits are serious business yo!
 
I call bull. I am an expert in human beings and most human beings dont see each other as such so choose your color.....or else. It helps alot in profiling you. thnx bro.

More bullshit. My tits are serious business yo!
Then send a serious picture of your tits.

:qt:
 
Then send a serious picture of your tits.

:qt:

I don't see sending pics doing anything for my girls. These babies are to be appreciated and loved in person and will settle for nothing less.

Of course after a couple shots of vodka, I will change my mind and go hunting for unsuspecting dudes to reap. lol j/k
 
I don't see sending pics doing anything for my girls. These babies are to be appreciated and loved in person and will settle for nothing less.

Of course after a couple shots of vodka, I will change my mind and go hunting for unsuspecting dudes to reap. lol j/k
Where do I send the Vodka too?
And where can I give the girls 100% attention...... after I get the show?
 
If both 'sides' agree there is substantial evidence to deem this man guilty of murder, why is this dude still running free? Just recently, the whole world screamed not guilty to Travis Davis due to substantial evidence pointing toward his innocence yet dude was executed. The system is fuked up. What you and I think doesn't matter, the system will do what it will.

At fist I was shocked, this dude was still free, but then I remembered it seemed to be the trend nowadays to find obviously guilty killers not guilty. I hope that doesn't happen again, but I wouldn't be shocked it does.

signed,
black person

meh, troy davis was guilty as fuk in my eyes, 30 plus witnesses, shooting another man the in the face the same day (quite lol that this was not disputed by the defense or his supporters), a preious record for possession of a fire arm...the jury made the right call.
the fact that the victim was white and a police officer (moonlighting as a security guard) is what made this case so prominent imo...
 
meh, troy davis was guilty as fuk in my eyes, 30 plus witnesses, shooting another man the in the face the same day (quite lol that this was not disputed by the defense or his supporters), a preious record for possession of a fire arm...the jury made the right call.
the fact that the victim was white and a police officer (moonlighting as a security guard) is what made this case so prominent imo...

I never vouched for his innocence nor condemned the man. I wasn't aware that having a record for possession of firearm meant you killed people. Its hard to shoot a man in the face with no weapon, so lets say there is a possibility that it couldn't have happened. there was no DNA evidence, no 30+ witnesses to the. There were nine witnesses of whom 7 say they were coerced by police, of the two remaining witnesses, one of them was suspect in the murder because he supposedly had the gun in his hands moments before Officer MacPhail was shot. Also several of the jury changed their mind about finding him guilty. I'd say, that is not guilty beyond doubt as the death penalty requires before execution. I sure as fuk would have minded being killed like that and so would you.

That's all I see, a fucked up system that's long due to get fixed now. just gotta find a little 'loophole' and your good to go.
 
meh I stop watching the news or reading the news every once in awhile cause shit depresses me. no need to convert to emoism, doesn't seem appealing at all.
 
Where do I send the Vodka too?
And where can I give the girls 100% attention...... after I get the show?

anywhere I am able to consume it really. I find alcohol works at home, in the office, in the street, in other people homes, in airports, in all kinds of different rooms, in front of the TV, while high, ect., so the possibilities of the location to where me gals could be attended to are plenty but not endless.

Plus i was selling myself short last night, I could probably handle 2.75-3 shots of vodka as I've build a tolerance over the past years of practice.
 
meh I stop watching the news or reading the news every once in awhile cause shit depresses me. no need to convert to emoism, doesn't seem appealing at all.

i only watch mike & mike in the morning and john stewart and stephen colbert at night...and even those are depressing at times if you look past the humor...i never watch fox of cnn or even the local news...nothing but bullshit, lies and sadness there...i read my tax updates, my economic updates, my valuation and accounting periodicals and updates and i read rolling stone magazine (but i generally steer clear of most of the bullshit propogated by that left-wing nut-job matt taibbi)...that's pretty much it...no...i'm not well-read...and i'm not generally open to new ideas (although i am willing to listen)...i believe in citizenship and responsibility and hard work and having some fun once in a while...these are the things that i try to teach my kids...and, more through actions than words, most of the time...however, i am the parent and i am imperfect and i am not above "do as i say, not as i do"...thank you very much.
 
If both 'sides' agree there is substantial evidence to deem this man guilty of murder, why is this dude still running free? Just recently, the whole world screamed not guilty to Travis Davis due to substantial evidence pointing toward his innocence yet dude was executed. The system is fuked up. What you and I think doesn't matter, the system will do what it will.

At fist I was shocked, this dude was still free, but then I remembered it seemed to be the trend nowadays to find obviously guilty killers not guilty. I hope that doesn't happen again, but I wouldn't be shocked it does.

signed,
black person

Please tell me you're not inferring the reason he's still not in jail has something to do with him being "white".
 
The reason it strikes a cord with me has nothing to do with race. It's a senseless murder of a young man/child. I am saddened anytime I am made aware of a story where a child is murdered. It's devastating for the parents I am sure. I cannot imagine losing my own child and I can't fathom the heartbreak felt by the parents. That's why

You must be sad all the time.. Because this happens EVERYDAY.
 
Indeed, let the process work; A Hispanic gunned down a black kid for no or limited reason..maybe he was physically assaulted but it doesn't justify lethal force. Can we just ignore anything promoted by the race baiters that make their living on hype and bullshit about racism.

I agree... Media is blowing this up. Was the guy at fault, yes... Dude was unarmed, if he had a knife it would be different.. This happens all the time with Hispanic and black gangs.. I am Hispanic myself so it pissed me off when they were saying the guy was white. Now the media is calling him white-Hispanic. Never really hear them use that one. Them making this the cover story everyday is really only cause more violence in the long run between races. One kid died in a crappy way now more ppl will die cause of this.. You have Jesse Jackson the black panthers and Obama making his dumb comment.. Obama saying hes going to have the FBI and DOJ get in it and investigate it.. Why not investigate fast and furious you fuck... No one got in trouble for that shit.. And many ppl died because of those actions.
 
I agree... Media is blowing this up. Was the guy at fault, yes... Dude was unarmed, if he had a knife it would be different.. This happens all the time with Hispanic and black gangs.. I am Hispanic myself so it pissed me off when they were saying the guy was white. Now the media is calling him white-Hispanic. Never really hear them use that one. Them making this the cover story everyday is really only cause more violence in the long run between races. One kid died in a crappy way now more ppl will die cause of this.. You have Jesse Jackson the black panthers and Obama making his dumb comment.. Obama saying hes going to have the FBI and DOJ get in it and investigate it.. Why not investigate fast and furious you fuck... No one got in trouble for that shit.. And many ppl died because of those actions.
You're a Mexican? Or a Mexican't?
 
The news the other night called him a White Latino. Not sure how that works. Is he mixed? Would you call another mixed person a white asian, a white black, or a white Indian? If so I've missed something.


But yeah I believe he's guilty as hell.

from my Transformer Prime

there are white and black hispanics,and alot are mixed...its not really a race like white and black
 
Implying that guy is "white" is seriously racist.

This is a minority-on-minority crime -- which is just as heinous as any other crime.

But this has nothing to do with whitey.
Let's see. His mom is a Latino but his father is a German so he's 50/50...yet somehow it's right to call him Hispanic but wrong to call him white. Help a brotha out with the math cuz I don't know nuttin bout birthin no babies, Miss Scarlet.

Help you sleep better at night to say it's just two minorities, does it?
 
Let's see. His mom is a Latino but his father is a German so he's 50/50...yet somehow it's right to call him Hispanic but wrong to call him white. Help a brotha out with the math cuz I don't know nuttin bout birthin no babies, Miss Scarlet.

Help you sleep better at night to say it's just two minorities, does it?

personally?? i love that the lines are getting erased (or at least becoming a lot less well-defined)...left to it's own devices, the penis will eventually put us all on the same playing field.
 
Implying that guy is "white" is seriously racist.

This is a minority-on-minority crime -- which is just as heinous as any other crime.

But this has nothing to do with whitey.
Just the way you Imply the POTUS is black although he's Mulatto.
Got it...


jus sayin'
 
Let's see. His mom is a Latino but his father is a German so he's 50/50...yet somehow it's right to call him Hispanic but wrong to call him white. Help a brotha out with the math cuz I don't know nuttin bout birthin no babies, Miss Scarlet.

Help you sleep better at night to say it's just two minorities, does it?

So does that make Obama a whitey?

Have we not had our first black president after all?
 
Just the way you Imply the POTUS is black although he's Mulatto.
Got it...


jus sayin'

Here's an easy way to tell the difference:

Could Zimmerman sue someone for racial discrimination? Does he qualify for minority status?
 
I agree... Media is blowing this up. Was the guy at fault, yes... Dude was unarmed, if he had a knife it would be different.. This happens all the time with Hispanic and black gangs.. I am Hispanic myself so it pissed me off when they were saying the guy was white. Now the media is calling him white-Hispanic. Never really hear them use that one. Them making this the cover story everyday is really only cause more violence in the long run between races. One kid died in a crappy way now more ppl will die cause of this.. You have Jesse Jackson the black panthers and Obama making his dumb comment.. Obama saying hes going to have the FBI and DOJ get in it and investigate it.. Why not investigate fast and furious you fuck... No one got in trouble for that shit.. And many ppl died because of those actions.

It's interesting how race is viewed, until I took a sociology class dealing with race in these United States I didn't realize that Hispanics have a very stratified pecking order based on race/pedigree. I was actually able to understand something about the people in my everyday life. My ex wife's sister married a Venezuelan and he was very proud that his bloodline could be traced back to Spain with no mixing. My brother is married to a Panamanian woman that has mixed heritage, black, native and Spanish.
 
So does that make Obama a whitey?

Have we not had our first black president after all?
I don't care which you call him. To me he's both white and black. The one drop rule was created by whites, not minorities. Answer the question.
 
I don't care which you call him. To me he's both white and black. The one drop rule was created by whites, not minorities. Answer the question.

I know the one drop rule but Hispanics have their own version that wasn't imposed by WASPS. Studies have concluded that even blacks judge other blacks by the amount of melanin in their skin...It's ridiculous.
 
Ummm, there's a difference between race and ethnicity.

Hispanic isn't a race, so being Hispanic doesn't mean someone isn't white. How stupid it is to hear people say "he's not white, he's Hispanic".

Apples and oranges.
 
Are people in this thread not aware of the difference between race and ethnicity?

Hispanic isn't a race, so being Hispanic doesn't mean someone isn't white. How stupid it is to hear people say "he's not white, he's Hispanic".

Apples and oranges.

How stupid is it to judge someone not based on their actions but on their ethnicity?

The media has conflated this into a white and black societal issue as opposed to what actually happened. A paranoid guy saw a hoodie wearing black kid, a thug stereotype, ran him down and murdered him....end of story..no racism but a stereotype...He would have done the same if a white Hells Angel was riding in the neighborhood...thug stereotype.
 
How stupid is it to judge someone not based on their actions but on their ethnicity?

The media has conflated this into a white and black societal issue as opposed to what actually happened. A paranoid guy saw a hoodie wearing black kid, a thug stereotype, ran him down and murdered him....end of story..no racism but a stereotype...He would have done the same if a white Hells Angel was riding in the neighborhood...thug stereotype.
but he would NOT have done the same if a 140lb hoodie-wearing white kid was moseying down the street with Skittles and tea. THAT is why race matters here.
 
How stupid is it to judge someone not based on their actions but on their ethnicity?

The media has conflated this into a white and black societal issue as opposed to what actually happened. A paranoid guy saw a hoodie wearing black kid, a thug stereotype, ran him down and murdered him....end of story..no racism but a stereotype...He would have done the same if a white Hells Angel was riding in the neighborhood...thug stereotype.

Yeah I agree that it's stupid and uncalled for. I wish the focus was more on a dead child than white and black bullshit.

....unless what the guy said during the phone call really was "coon", then, in this case at least, it is a racial thing. IMO

But we won't know that because all we have is an unclear recording, and that's after enhancements.
 
but he would NOT have done the same if a 140lb hoodie-wearing white kid was moseying down the street with Skittles and tea. THAT is why race matters here.

You can't make that claim...I bet if a 140lb white kid wearing thug gear might have gotten the same treatment from a paranoid.

You're assuming he was rational..by all accounts he was a paranoid; A normal person doesn't run down someone and murder them.

One of my best friends in college was a black man and he was very confrontational...I remember his anger when he was ticketed for jay walking..a pretty much bullshit charges at OSU but he was a dick to the cops and he escalated the confrontation...I was stopped by pd for pissing in the alley on a drinking binge and apologetic to the police....I didn't get a ticket. White people understand they need to be deferential to the government, my black friends have always had a chip on their shoulder about it. Maybe you're getting hassled because you're challenging authority and not the amount of melanin in your cells.
 
Ummm, there's a difference between race and ethnicity.

Hispanic isn't a race, so being Hispanic doesn't mean someone isn't white. How stupid it is to hear people say "he's not white, he's Hispanic".

Apples and oranges.
I concur...

Wear that opinion as your flag on the Puerto Rican day festival in NYC...

I'm Prussian...not white...
 
Let's see. His mom is a Latino but his father is a German so he's 50/50...yet somehow it's right to call him Hispanic but wrong to call him white. Help a brotha out with the math cuz I don't know nuttin bout birthin no babies, Miss Scarlet.

Help you sleep better at night to say it's just two minorities, does it?

That won't effect my sleep either way.

But I do think it's disgraceful for the media to crystallize around one terrible crime and ascribe all sorts of additional meaning behind it.

1) A guy did something stupid

2) An innocent guy died because of it.


That's going to happen several times today. Where are those news articles? What made this one guy so much worthier of our attention and debate over the hundreds that have died since then?
 
Ummm, there's a difference between race and ethnicity.

Hispanic isn't a race, so being Hispanic doesn't mean someone isn't white. How stupid it is to hear people say "he's not white, he's Hispanic".

Apples and oranges.

So you consider Mexicans white?
 
So you consider Mexicans white?

It would depend on the Mexican and their ancestry...possibly.

Hispanic is an ethnicity, a culture. Mexican is a nationality. Both can be white, and many are. People misunderstand how broad a term "race" is. There are only several to cover billions of people. Not everybody in your race is going to look like you.

"White" doesn't only describe people of recent European ancestry...unfortunately, people use "white" today with a cultural connotation, when racially it has none.
 
You know what else is outrageously stupid?
The cemented thought process that racism can only go from caucasian to other. Ever seen what's going on in africa? And has been going on for years. That is a clear example of hate!
 
You know what else is outrageously stupid?
The cemented thought process that racism can only go from caucasian to other. Ever seen what's going on in africa? And has been going on for years. That is a clear example of hate!

Know why that gets ignored? Because there's no opportunity for political and financial gain in that situation. Jessie and Al don't have anyone to shake down for cash.
 
I need to turn my tv on once and a while....had no clue what this was about.

As long as there are humans, there will be hate. It has nothing to do with race, religion or culture. It just has to do with being human.
The guy was probably a real angry guy with some bone to pick with someone and took it out on some young child. Happens every day....sad!
 
It would depend on the Mexican and their ancestry...possibly.

Hispanic is an ethnicity, a culture. Mexican is a nationality. Both can be white, and many are. People misunderstand how broad a term "race" is. There are only several to cover billions of people. Not everybody in your race is going to look like you.

"White" doesn't only describe people of recent European ancestry...unfortunately, people use "white" today with a cultural connotation, when racially it has none.

Census forms have two white categories:

white - not hispanic or latino
white - hispanic or latino
 
You can't make that claim...I bet if a 140lb white kid wearing thug gear might have gotten the same treatment from a paranoid.

You're assuming he was rational..by all accounts he was a paranoid; A normal person doesn't run down someone and murder them.

One of my best friends in college was a black man and he was very confrontational...I remember his anger when he was ticketed for jay walking..a pretty much bullshit charges at OSU but he was a dick to the cops and he escalated the confrontation...I was stopped by pd for pissing in the alley on a drinking binge and apologetic to the police....I didn't get a ticket. White people understand they need to be deferential to the government, my black friends have always had a chip on their shoulder about it. Maybe you're getting hassled because you're challenging authority and not the amount of melanin in your cells.

Zimmy wasn't authority. He was just some guy in street clothes chasing him. Your argument would have merit if he were a cop.

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Zimmy wasn't authority. He was just some guy in street clothes chasing him. Your argument would have merit if he were a cop.

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What's your argument?

If its that Zimmerman isn't in jail because he's "white", that's ridiculous, especially considering he's of mixed race.
 
Census forms have two white categories:

white - not hispanic or latino
white - hispanic or latino

Right...because hispanic/latino people can be white, like I said. The government asks for clarification of the ethnicity of said white person because the Hispanic/Latino ethnic group is of interest.

That doesn't mean they aren't "white". If South Africans were populating our country as quickly as the Hispanic/Latino community, it'd say white - not South African and white - South African.

Hispanic is an ethnic modifier, not a racial one.
 
You can't make that claim...I bet if a 140lb white kid wearing thug gear might have gotten the same treatment from a paranoid.

You're assuming he was rational..by all accounts he was a paranoid; A normal person doesn't run down someone and murder them.
No. No no no no no. You're assuming he was paranoid.

Let's face it. This guy saw a black juvenile in a hoodie walking in this gated community and thought immediately that he didnt belong there so he must be suspicious. THAT is what sparked him to follow and then call 911 (jesus christ really???! he called 911).

If you think any different then you're not thinking clearly.
 
Right...because hispanic/latino people can be white, like I said. The government asks for clarification of the ethnicity of said white person because the Hispanic/Latino ethnic group is of interest.

That doesn't mean they aren't "white". If South Africans were populating our country as quickly as the Hispanic/Latino community, it'd say white - not South African and white - South African.

Hispanic is an ethnic modifier, not a racial one.

I've never seen a mexican with a "white pride" tattoo across their stomach.
 
What's your argument?

If its that Zimmerman isn't in jail because he's "white", that's ridiculous, especially considering he's of mixed race.
MY argument is he's not jail, period. Don't care why personally.
 
MY argument is he's not jail, period. Don't care why personally.

Yeah but based on the facts so far, I bet you can't find a single person on this board who doesn't want to see him arrested, charged and ultimately convicted of murder.

So what's the problem?
 
Yeah but based on the facts so far, I bet you can't find a single person on this board who doesn't want to see him arrested, charged and ultimately convicted of murder.

So what's the problem?

Exactly. And if there's enough evidence to charge him, he'll get charged. He won't get a break for being white.
 
a former president of a NAACP branch says it just like i did, cheers to this man for having the balls for going against the grain (and risking the inevitable taunts of uncle tom)

Former NAACP leader C.L. Bryant is accusing Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton of “exploiting” the Trayvon Martin tragedy to “racially divide this country.”

“His family should be outraged at the fact that they’re using this child as the bait to inflame racial passions,” Rev. C.L. Bryant said in a Monday interview with The Daily Caller.

The conservative black pastor who was once the chapter president of the Garland, Texas NAACP called Jackson and Sharpton “race hustlers” and said they are “acting as though they are buzzards circling the carcass of this young boy.”

Jackson, for example, recently said Martin’s death shows how “blacks are under attack” and “targeting, arresting, convicting blacks and ultimately killing us is big business.” (SEE ALSO: Jesse Jackson says Trayvon Martin ‘murdered and martyred’)

George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch captain, killed Martin, a 17-year-old black man who was unarmed at the time of his death, last month. Zimmerman has claimed to have shot Martin in self-defense and has not been charged with a crime.

But Bryant, who explores the topic of black-on-black crime in his new film “Runaway Slave,” said people like Jackson and Sharpton are being misleading to suggest there is an epidemic of “white men killing black young men.”

“The epidemic is truly black on black crime,” Bryant said. “The greatest danger to the lives of young black men are young black men.”

Bryant said he wishes civil rights leaders were protesting those problems.

“Why not be angry about the wholesale murder that goes on in the streets of Newark and Chicago?” he asked. “Why isn’t somebody angry about that six-year-old girl who was killed on her steps last weekend in a cross fire when two gang members in Chicago start shooting at each other? Why is there no outrage about that?”

Bryant said he worries that “people like Sharpton and those on the left” will make Martin’s death a campaign issue in the presidential race.

He speculated that they will “turn this evolving tragedy of this young man into fodder to say… if you don’t re-elect Obama then you will have unbridled events or circumstances like this happening in the streets to young men wearing hoodies.” (RELATED: Herman Cain criticizes ‘swirling rhetoric’ after Martin shooting)

He also criticized President Obama for his “nebulous statement” responding to Martin’s death that “if I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.”

“What does that mean?” Bryant asked. “What was the purpose in that?”



Read more: Trayvon Martin | Jesse Jackson | Al Sharpton | The Daily Caller
 
the inevitable outcome of racial pimping the masses into a frenzy of hate and thirst for revenge
zimmermanshirtlarge.jpg


Expanding the definition of “cracker,” a t-shirt featuring the photo of the man who shot Trayvon Martin is now available for purchase.

As seen at right (click to enlarge), the shirt has a picture of George Zimmerman and the words “Pussy Ass Cracker.” Zimmerman, a 28-year-old Hispanic, killed Martin, 17, last month while acting as a neighborhood watch captain in Sanford, Florida.

The shirt’s “pussy ass cracker” line is apparently a reference to lyrics from the rapper Plies’s song “100 Years,” which bemoans stiff sentences handed out by racist judges
 
a former president of a NAACP branch says it just like i did, cheers to this man for having the balls for going against the grain (and risking the inevitable taunts of uncle tom)

Former NAACP leader C.L. Bryant is accusing Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton of “exploiting” the Trayvon Martin tragedy to “racially divide this country.”

“His family should be outraged at the fact that they’re using this child as the bait to inflame racial passions,” Rev. C.L. Bryant said in a Monday interview with The Daily Caller.

The conservative black pastor who was once the chapter president of the Garland, Texas NAACP called Jackson and Sharpton “race hustlers” and said they are “acting as though they are buzzards circling the carcass of this young boy.”

Jackson, for example, recently said Martin’s death shows how “blacks are under attack” and “targeting, arresting, convicting blacks and ultimately killing us is big business.” (SEE ALSO: Jesse Jackson says Trayvon Martin ‘murdered and martyred’)

George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch captain, killed Martin, a 17-year-old black man who was unarmed at the time of his death, last month. Zimmerman has claimed to have shot Martin in self-defense and has not been charged with a crime.

But Bryant, who explores the topic of black-on-black crime in his new film “Runaway Slave,” said people like Jackson and Sharpton are being misleading to suggest there is an epidemic of “white men killing black young men.”

“The epidemic is truly black on black crime,” Bryant said. “The greatest danger to the lives of young black men are young black men.”

Bryant said he wishes civil rights leaders were protesting those problems.

“Why not be angry about the wholesale murder that goes on in the streets of Newark and Chicago?” he asked. “Why isn’t somebody angry about that six-year-old girl who was killed on her steps last weekend in a cross fire when two gang members in Chicago start shooting at each other? Why is there no outrage about that?”

Bryant said he worries that “people like Sharpton and those on the left” will make Martin’s death a campaign issue in the presidential race.

He speculated that they will “turn this evolving tragedy of this young man into fodder to say… if you don’t re-elect Obama then you will have unbridled events or circumstances like this happening in the streets to young men wearing hoodies.” (RELATED: Herman Cain criticizes ‘swirling rhetoric’ after Martin shooting)

He also criticized President Obama for his “nebulous statement” responding to Martin’s death that “if I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.”

“What does that mean?” Bryant asked. “What was the purpose in that?”



Read more: Trayvon Martin | Jesse Jackson | Al Sharpton | The Daily Caller

We need more leaders like that.

And we need more journalism like that.
 
We need more leaders like that.

And we need more journalism like that.

here is some minor news that happened this weekend, really no big deal the shooters were black and the victim a annoying white dude



PREVIOUSLY: A student was shot to death at a Mississippi State University residence hall late Saturday night, prompting campus-wide alerts as authorities searched for suspects who fled the scene. The university held a press conference Sunday morning at 10 a.m. to release more details.



Bill Kibler, vice president of student affairs, stated the victim's name is John Sanderson, age 21, from Madison, MS. Sanderson is a first year student at MSU and transferred there from Holmes Community College.



The 911 call was placed at 9:54 p.m. Saturday night, and police arrived at Evans Hall within minutes. The shooting occurred in a first floor dorm room.



Sanderson was transported by ambulance to Oktibbeha County Hospital Regional Medical Center around 10:20 and was declared dead there at around 11:30 p.m.



Evans Hall, which houses about 300 male students, has security cameras at each entrance. That video footage has been downloaded and turned over to police. Dorm residents have to go through three separate key card entrances before reaching a residence room.



Three African American male suspects reportedly fled the scene in a blue Crown Victoria. Authorities believe the suspects fled the campus and probably the city of Starkville. Twenty four students from adjacent rooms were relocated after the shooting primarily to preserve the crime scene. A gun was recovered on campus but authorities did not say where it was found.



As of mid-day Sunday, no arrests had been made.



Kibler says the university cannot discuss the motive due to the ongoing investigation.



University President Mark Keenum announced he believes the shooting was an isolated incident, and there's no indication of any danger to other students; however, university and Starkville residents were cautioned to be aware of an African American male looking for a ride to Jackson.



Shortly after the shooting, the university began sending a series of text message alerts to students.



University Police are heading the investigation with the help of Starkville Police, Oktibbeha County Sheriff's Department and Mississippi Highway Patrol.



Read more: Mississippi State releases more details on Saturday homicide - The Dispatch
 
A few years ago, we had an absolutely horrific kidnapping/raping/mutilation/murder (in that order) of a young Knoxville couple.

And yes, both the guy and girl were repeatedly raped with a broken chair leg before being mutilated. The guy was given the benefit of a few bullets to the head and burned to death, whereas the girl was forced to drink pipe cleaner then placed in garbage bags and left to suffocate to death.

Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And I cannot figure out why we didn't hear more about it in the national media. It was a story in Knoxville, but never made national news.
 
Please tell me you're not inferring the reason he's still not in jail has something to do with him being "white".

I wasn't inferring anything. Just said that the majority of people seem to be on the same page despite all the surfacing issues/arguments this recent tragedy brought forth. our justice system sucks. personally i don't care what color he is or what color the victim was, one is shot in the back and killed, and the other is not held for his crime. They must have a different idea/definition of what self defense is than the one i knew.
 
i only watch mike & mike in the morning and john stewart and stephen colbert at night...and even those are depressing at times if you look past the humor...i never watch fox of cnn or even the local news...nothing but bullshit, lies and sadness there...i read my tax updates, my economic updates, my valuation and accounting periodicals and updates and i read rolling stone magazine (but i generally steer clear of most of the bullshit propogated by that left-wing nut-job matt taibbi)...that's pretty much it...no...i'm not well-read...and i'm not generally open to new ideas (although i am willing to listen)...i believe in citizenship and responsibility and hard work and having some fun once in a while...these are the things that i try to teach my kids...and, more through actions than words, most of the time...however, i am the parent and i am imperfect and i am not above "do as i say, not as i do"...thank you very much.

and you have great abs, lets not forget the important stuff.
 
A few years ago, we had an absolutely horrific kidnapping/raping/mutilation/murder (in that order) of a young Knoxville couple.

And yes, both the guy and girl were repeatedly raped with a broken chair leg before being mutilated. The guy was given the benefit of a few bullets to the head and burned to death, whereas the girl was forced to drink pipe cleaner then placed in garbage bags and left to suffocate to death.

Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And I cannot figure out why we didn't hear more about it in the national media. It was a story in Knoxville, but never made national news.

Oh... and when white supremacists showed up here in Knoxville to protest the killings, locals here dressed up like clowns and made fun of them.

Clowns counter protest a KKK rally • VideoSift: Online Video *Quality Control

So now that Sharpton is already on-site and the Black Panthers are en route, will they be greeted by similar clowns?
 
I don't watch the news so I dunno wtf is going on cept for the couple posts I read on here. So did this kid assault this dude and then flea and the guy chased him down and shot him?

Is that what happened?
 
I don't watch the news so I dunno wtf is going on cept for the couple posts I read on here. So did this kid assault this dude and then flea and the guy chased him down and shot him?

Is that what happened?

can I have your k?
 
I don't watch the news so I dunno wtf is going on cept for the couple posts I read on here. So did this kid assault this dude and then flea and the guy chased him down and shot him?

Is that what happened?

meh that is a possibility, a witness claims the kid was on top of him beating him.
but we'll have to wait and see, will most certainly be a interesting court case
 
If that's the case then the kid got what he deserved IMO.

1. Kid is walking to his father's fiance's house after getting Skittles and Arizona tea for his brother, who's already there.
2. Zimmy (gun toting street clothes wearing neighborhood guy) sees a shifty looking negro in his gangster hoodie cuz you know gangsters love them some Skittles, calls cops
3. Zimmy follows kid (in his truck)
4. kid turns a diff way
5. Zimmy appears again.
6. kid tells gf on phone this guy's following me
7. kid starts to run at some point
8. Zimmy tells dispatcher he's going after him (leaving the safety of his truck to do so)
9. Dispatcher tells Zimmy we don't need to do that, sir.
10. At some point the two are face to face, who knows whats going on now.
11. 250lb Zimmy and 140lb Trayvon begin to wrestle on the ground, allegedly for a minute.
12. Zimmy claims kid was going to town on him, and shoots him.

Trayvon lays in a morgue for THREE days as John Doe because the police a) never check his phone for family members, last calls, etc and b) never go door to door asking if anyone knows the kid. They would have found his dad's fiance and brother, who was waiting on his Arizona tea (that's good shit). Lawyer says Zimmy has a broken nose and some other shit. Strangely, no hospital report of this. Zimmy is never a suspect due to Stand Your Ground law. His gun is never confiscated or checked in any way. His clothes aren't checked. Zimmy isn't tested for anything but dead Trayvon is tested for drugs and alcohol (clean).

This happened a month ago and you've only been hearing about it for a week because the police WERE NOT investigating jack and the story went viral on the internet. Now whatever evidence there was is in worse condition than the OJ trial.

Now miplank, if some punk you got a 1 buck 10 on wants to throw hands do you REALLY a gun to put his ass in a neck lock and make him say uncle?
 
1. Kid is walking to his father's fiance's house after getting Skittles and Arizona tea for his brother, who's already there.
2. Zimmy (gun toting street clothes wearing neighborhood guy) sees a shifty looking negro in his gangster hoodie cuz you know gangsters love them some Skittles, calls cops
3. Zimmy follows kid (in his truck)
4. kid turns a diff way
5. Zimmy appears again.
6. kid tells gf on phone this guy's following me
7. kid starts to run at some point
8. Zimmy tells dispatcher he's going after him (leaving the safety of his truck to do so)
9. Dispatcher tells Zimmy we don't need to do that, sir.
10. At some point the two are face to face, who knows whats going on now.
11. 250lb Zimmy and 140lb Trayvon begin to wrestle on the ground, allegedly for a minute.
12. Zimmy claims kid was going to town on him, and shoots him.

Trayvon lays in a morgue for THREE days as John Doe because the police a) never check his phone for family members, last calls, etc and b) never go door to door asking if anyone knows the kid. They would have found his dad's fiance and brother, who was waiting on his Arizona tea (that's good shit). Lawyer says Zimmy has a broken nose and some other shit. Strangely, no hospital report of this. Zimmy is never a suspect due to Stand Your Ground law. His gun is never confiscated or checked in any way. His clothes aren't checked. Zimmy isn't tested for anything but dead Trayvon is tested for drugs and alcohol (clean).

This happened a month ago and you've only been hearing about it for a week because the police WERE NOT investigating jack and the story went viral on the internet. Now whatever evidence there was is in worse condition than the OJ trial.

Now miplank, if some punk you got a 1 buck 10 on wants to throw hands do you REALLY a gun to put his ass in a neck lock and make him say uncle?

He might have had 110lbs on him, but he was significantly shorter 5'9" vs 6'3". Seems like there's a lot of the story missing at this point.
 
1. Kid is walking to his father's fiance's house after getting Skittles and Arizona tea for his brother, who's already there.
2. Zimmy (gun toting street clothes wearing neighborhood guy) sees a shifty looking negro in his gangster hoodie cuz you know gangsters love them some Skittles, calls cops
3. Zimmy follows kid (in his truck)
4. kid turns a diff way
5. Zimmy appears again.
6. kid tells gf on phone this guy's following me
7. kid starts to run at some point
8. Zimmy tells dispatcher he's going after him (leaving the safety of his truck to do so)
9. Dispatcher tells Zimmy we don't need to do that, sir.
10. At some point the two are face to face, who knows whats going on now.
11. 250lb Zimmy and 140lb Trayvon begin to wrestle on the ground, allegedly for a minute.
12. Zimmy claims kid was going to town on him, and shoots him.

Trayvon lays in a morgue for THREE days as John Doe because the police a) never check his phone for family members, last calls, etc and b) never go door to door asking if anyone knows the kid. They would have found his dad's fiance and brother, who was waiting on his Arizona tea (that's good shit). Lawyer says Zimmy has a broken nose and some other shit. Strangely, no hospital report of this. Zimmy is never a suspect due to Stand Your Ground law. His gun is never confiscated or checked in any way. His clothes aren't checked. Zimmy isn't tested for anything but dead Trayvon is tested for drugs and alcohol (clean).

This happened a month ago and you've only been hearing about it for a week because the police WERE NOT investigating jack and the story went viral on the internet. Now whatever evidence there was is in worse condition than the OJ trial.

Now miplank, if some punk you got a 1 buck 10 on wants to throw hands do you REALLY a gun to put his ass in a neck lock and make him say uncle?


Short version : fat wannabe cop starts some shit and gets flashed. Can't handle shit he started and resorts to gun. To the cops it was just another dead ni66er that wasn't worth the manpower to investigate until it went viral.

If anything, it was the kid that had the right to stand his ground and resort to using a gun when some creepy ass fatty was stalking him and starting shit.
 
Short version : fat wannabe cop starts some shit and gets flashed. Can't handle shit he started and resorts to gun. To the cops it was just another dead ni66er that wasn't worth the manpower to investigate until it went viral.
That is the entire story in two sentences.


He might have had 110lbs on him, but he was significantly shorter 5'9" vs 6'3". Seems like there's a lot of the story missing at this point.
I don't care if the kid was Manute Bol. Zimmerman had two charges of domestic assault AND a felony assault on police officer charge that was dropped so this is not some guy who's afraid of confrontation.
 
Has anyone seen the original police report?

If Zimmerman was punched in the face and had a broken nose and also had his head smashed into the pavement as many times as he claims than why was he not transported to the hospital to tend to his wounds??

Also a typical police ballistic investigation will reveal just how close the two were standing when the shot went into Trayvon (sp). Wonder if they will look into that one too?! I don't know about you but with a broken nose that should have immediately swelled up and also after having my head smashed into the pavement I probably would not have a clear shot after struggling to get a suspicious thug off of my back...

Just some things that make you go hmmmm!

Now really, I don't give a damn if the kid was black, white, purple, or green. Bottom line is that Zimmerman was told not to follow him by police (911) dispatchers. Why did he continue to pursue this? I wear a hoodie every day, yep even in summer. I am scared for my life now :)
 
That is the entire story in two sentences.



I don't care if the kid was Manute Bol. Zimmerman had two charges of domestic assault AND a felony assault on police officer charge that was dropped so this is not some guy who's afraid of confrontation.

that makes me go hmmmmmmm
 
Wow I had never heard of that case and I was living in AR then.

I remember the story, and remember some of the uproar. It never got to anything as big as this case, although the details of the assault and murder are pretty fucking extreme.

According to the testimony of the Knox County Acting Medical Examiner Dr. Darinka Mileusnic-Polchan at the subsequent trial of Eric Boyd, Newsom was repeatedly sodomized with an object and then blindfolded, gagged, arms and feet bound and his head covered. Barefoot, he was either led or dragged outside the house to a set of nearby railroad tracks. He was shot in the back of the head, the neck, and the back, and his body then set on fire.
Channon's death came only after hours of sexual torture, medical examiner Mileusnic-Polchan testified. Channon suffered horrific injuries to her vagina, anus and mouth. She was not only raped but savaged with "an object," possibly a broken chair leg, the doctor testified. She was beaten in the head. Some type of chemical was poured down her throat, and her body, including her bleeding and battered genital area, likely scrubbed with the same solution - all while Channon was alive, the forensic expert said. She was then "hog-tied," with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered tightly with a small trash bag and her body stashed inside five large trash bags before being placed inside a large trash can and covered with sheets. Channon died slowly, suffocating, the medical examiner said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom


I found this blog, the claims made make me lol. Then again, it seems plausible that a rich while girl would have black rape fantasies and murder her boyfriend beforehand to allow it to happen.

http://channonchristian.blogspot.com/


Also, guy in my avatar would totally ravage dat girl's vag with his 12 inch cock. What, too soon?
 
1. Kid is walking to his father's fiance's house after getting Skittles and Arizona tea for his brother, who's already there.
2. Zimmy (gun toting street clothes wearing neighborhood guy) sees a shifty looking negro in his gangster hoodie cuz you know gangsters love them some Skittles, calls cops
3. Zimmy follows kid (in his truck)
4. kid turns a diff way
5. Zimmy appears again.
6. kid tells gf on phone this guy's following me
7. kid starts to run at some point
8. Zimmy tells dispatcher he's going after him (leaving the safety of his truck to do so)
9. Dispatcher tells Zimmy we don't need to do that, sir.
10. At some point the two are face to face, who knows whats going on now.
11. 250lb Zimmy and 140lb Trayvon begin to wrestle on the ground, allegedly for a minute.
12. Zimmy claims kid was going to town on him, and shoots him.

Trayvon lays in a morgue for THREE days as John Doe because the police a) never check his phone for family members, last calls, etc and b) never go door to door asking if anyone knows the kid. They would have found his dad's fiance and brother, who was waiting on his Arizona tea (that's good shit). Lawyer says Zimmy has a broken nose and some other shit. Strangely, no hospital report of this. Zimmy is never a suspect due to Stand Your Ground law. His gun is never confiscated or checked in any way. His clothes aren't checked. Zimmy isn't tested for anything but dead Trayvon is tested for drugs and alcohol (clean).

This happened a month ago and you've only been hearing about it for a week because the police WERE NOT investigating jack and the story went viral on the internet. Now whatever evidence there was is in worse condition than the OJ trial.

Now miplank, if some punk you got a 1 buck 10 on wants to throw hands do you REALLY a gun to put his ass in a neck lock and make him say uncle?

I dunno..is that what REALLY happened? I said I don't watch the news and not sure what the story is that's why I asked for clarification. I thought I read where the kid was on top of the guy attacking him and then ended up getting shot in the back after said attack.

If that's the case, then I stand by my statement.


If it turns out the guy was just following the kid cuz he thought he was another thug and shot him for no apparent reason then it's totally different.
 
I dunno..is that what REALLY happened? I said I don't watch the news and not sure what the story is that's why I asked for clarification. I thought I read where the kid was on top of the guy attacking him and then ended up getting shot in the back after said attack.

If that's the case, then I stand by my statement.


If it turns out the guy was just following the kid cuz he thought he was another thug and shot him for no apparent reason then it's totally different.

no one knows what really happened and its pretty obvious the media is spinning this case in a way that's going to start race riots. pretty fucking ridiculous if you ask me
 
I've been watching this case, and my opinion is that the media has created the grounds for a riot without a clue as to what happened... It's been 20 years now since the LA/Rodney King Police Beating acquittal riot. So no matter who's right and who's wrong, or who get charged and who doesn't, three facts will be the case: (1) Somebody will cry foul on behalf of the Black population; (2) The White supremists will use it as a tool to promote hatred (3) The media and the lawyers on all sides will make big $$$$$ from it all.

Charles
 
Remember when Cindy said she fantasized about being choked/raped....wonder if recent events have changed her mind..lmfao
 
no one knows what really happened and its pretty obvious the media is spinning this case in a way that's going to start race riots. pretty fucking ridiculous if you ask me

This is why the media really should be a non-profit organization.
 
How does that work though? I've joked around with my fiance about doing the whole rape fantasy thing. I mean, she likes it when I pull on her hair a bit or put my hand around her neck gently, but how would you pretend-rape somebody? Like would I hold her down and fuck her in the ass until she bleeds, then say "I love you baby"?
 
How does that work though? I've joked around with my fiance about doing the whole rape fantasy thing. I mean, she likes it when I pull on her hair a bit or put my hand around her neck gently, but how would you pretend-rape somebody? Like would I hold her down and fuck her in the ass until she bleeds, then say "I love you baby"?

No, you need to agree upon it beforehand. You don't just do it out of nowhere even if you know she likes it and obv there has to be a safe word in case things get intense.

The fantasies only go so far. The allure for most women is being out of control, that's what they're looking to fulfill in bed, not trying to match the brutality of an actual rape.
 
now, not knowing much about the case it looks shady to me, unjustified homicide.
zimmerman, btw, is hispanic or at least appears to be so from the pic i saw...howcome, though, all the lib rags and black blogs are screaming bloody racist and dennouncing the man (ie white people esp conservatives who secretly want this sorta thing to happen by passing gun laws like florida has "stand your ground") but when a white bro is murdered by a black (happens more frequently than the opposite) you never hear anything about racism/marches for justice/etc? and if someone asks how come there isn't a hate crime charge/investigation the media/da wil say there is no proof it was racist based...but the only proof needed for white on black crime is the act in itself...it's like the media is super afraid of the possiblity that maybe, just maybe white folks aren't the only ones who harbor racism and saying so will trigger an onslaught of marches/dennounciations/lawsuits...so we just move along like sheep acting like it never happened, meanwhile everyone get's into a frenzy and acts as if slavery/lynching/jim crow is under every rug when some dbag kills a black bro.
a murder such as the zimmerman deal is not just a dbag killing a black, it's as if the entire white race did it and will do more if not checked and checked hard.
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its really hard to comment on the subject intelligently without being there and knowing the real story... I read a story on msn today that said he quit following him and the kid circled back and hit him first... But to be totally honest I don't have a single fuck to give... I grew up in south central LA... My mom and I was chased outta our community in 92 riots with bricks and bats by people who a month before called us friends and ate our food etc etc.. This shit happens every damn day and this is just the medias way of blowing shit up to cause a stir with everyone in the country, total bullshit! Anyone know who Reginald Denny is??? probably not by name but u know him from the news.. in 92' he was the white truck driver dragged from his truck and beat within an inch of his life by the LA 4 while the cops sat on the corner and watched it all bc they were told on the radio not to break it up. Where the fuck was his justice??? where the fuck was sharpton and jessie at?? No fucking where... That guy was just doing his job and was beat badly, now hes basically a retard living in lake havisu AZ fixing boat motors living off of disability... Those 4 guys were convicted of mayhem only, the judge didnt want to charge them with attempted murder bc they didnt want to start up anymore shit... basically 5 yrs later they all were free on good behavior... Like i said fuck all that shit... U guys can buy into it if u want, I've lived it... seen it... Theres never any justice
 
How does that work though? I've joked around with my fiance about doing the whole rape fantasy thing. I mean, she likes it when I pull on her hair a bit or put my hand around her neck gently, but how would you pretend-rape somebody? Like would I hold her down and fuck her in the ass until she bleeds, then say "I love you baby"?

I mildly tried something with an ex, pretty much just had him restrain me, pin me down, use his weight on top of me if I tried to squirm away ,pretty much I'd pretend I didnt want it and he'd make me do it anyway... pretty fucking hot.... I'd add actual restraints/handcuffs, bonding, etc and maybe a blindfold next time... you know... if I ever have sex again :worried:
 
I mildly tried something with an ex, pretty much just had him restrain me, pin me down, use his weight on top of me if I tried to squirm away ,pretty much I'd pretend I didnt want it and he'd make me do it anyway... pretty fucking hot.... I'd add actual restraints/handcuffs, bonding, etc and maybe a blindfold next time... you know... if I ever have sex again :worried:

I'll climb on top of you and pass out if you want
 
I mildly tried something with an ex, pretty much just had him restrain me, pin me down, use his weight on top of me if I tried to squirm away ,pretty much I'd pretend I didnt want it and he'd make me do it anyway... pretty fucking hot.... I'd add actual restraints/handcuffs, bonding, etc and maybe a blindfold next time... you know... if I ever have sex again :worried:

You're just going to have to do the raping this time
 
I remember the story, and remember some of the uproar. It never got to anything as big as this case, although the details of the assault and murder are pretty fucking extreme.



Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I found this blog, the claims made make me lol. Then again, it seems plausible that a rich while girl would have black rape fantasies and murder her boyfriend beforehand to allow it to happen.

Channon Christian Lie & Cover UP


Also, guy in my avatar would totally ravage dat girl's vag with his 12 inch cock. What, too soon?
whoa that blogspot site has a lot of kill whitey islamic rhetoric on it... had some deep links to other fucked up shit.
 
I make her "safe word" something really long like Supercalafrajalistickexpialadocious so i get a second or two longer with the fantasy.
 
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