The Ultimate Protective Ancillaries List?

[PANTS]

I'm about to hit a Winny only cycle for 6 weeks (50mg/day)
I'd like to share my list of ancillaries I will be using throughout to protect myself from negative sides:

Multi Vitamin: 2 caps/day
Alpha Lipoic Acid: 1.5-2g/day
Milk Thistle (80% Standardised): 800mg/day
Cranberry Extract: 600mg/day
N acetyl Cysteine: 1200mg/day
Vitamin C: 2-3g/day
Saw Palmetto: 320mg/day
Nizoral Shampoo: daily
Spironolactone 2% Solution daily

Post Cycle:
Clomid (300,100,50: Standard Protocol) at end of Cycle.
Clenbuterol 50-100mcg/day

Anything missing guys?
P

 

[rjl296]

i would add coenzyme q10 (heart)
and niacin (hdl chol)

i would drop milk thistle, and prolly the cranberry. just drink ALOT of h2o

 

[PANTS]

A bit late to drop those, already bought them. Never mind, they won't do any harm.
About the Q10 and Niacin: what mg's?
Cheers,
P

 

[MikeyG]

you worry too much about ur supplementation! you should worry more about your training and nutrition

but that's a good thing-- but i think you're good to go-- not too sure about the Q10 or Niacin mg's just do the daily reccomended value on the bottle-- lol.

 

[PANTS]

I don't worry too much about supplements: I just like to get things right.
Bumpin for Q10 and Niacin mg's?

 

[rush]

I would really watch the winstrol if your concerned about
hair loss and by using nizo and spiro obviously you are.
Dont make the same mistake I did, trust me if you lose
your hair the buff body doesnt mean jack shit.

 

[liftsiron]

CoQ10 should be taken at a minimum of 200mg per day, myself I take 300mg daily.

 

[PANTS]

rush: I take it your hairline suffered. Did you use Spiro/Nizoral?

 

[PANTS]

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[Rich_d]

Sorry if this is dump!!

Pants, I'm in the UK too. Where do I find nizoral shampoo?? Superdrug? Boots? Can you tell me of the brand which has it, I've been looking for it recently but can't find it.

Cheers

 

[PANTS]

Rich_d: You can pick it up at most Boots stores. You need the 2% shampoo. If not, most independent chemists will carry it.
Its sold as an Anti-Dandruff shampoo, but don't let that put you off.
Use daily.
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[PANTS]

Just a few more ?'s:
1) Will any of the above compete with each other (see original post), and therefore be taken apart from each other?

2) Is the CoQ10 essential? If so what is its role in protecting the heart? Its just that it sooo expensive!

3) Whats with the Niacin?!? Just too some yesterday and within 15 minutes I had major hot flushes!

Cheers,
EG

 

[Grainger]

Give me a break.....take all that shit you bought and flush it. It's all a bunch of crap! You should have spent that money on food and your time worring about getting it right on your training! You are only taking 50 mg of Winny for 6 weeks?

 

[OXANDRIN]

some of those are useless

 

[crmdogg]

Hey, some women like the bald, Mr. Clean look,lol

 

[BigBaseballStud21]

i'm 20 and loosing my hair but i will take no hair and ripped to shreds over hair any day

 

[Him1]

Give me a break.....take all that shit you bought and flush it. It's all a bunch of crap! You should have spent that money on food and your time worring about getting it right on your training! You are only taking 50 mg of Winny for 6 weeks?

I disagree. Those supplements(I take most of the same stuff when on) are useful. Better safe than sorry when it comes to prostate and kidneys/liver. Just look at Tom Prince, Flex Wheeler, etc. If they had taken some of these at the right doses, it may have helped them in their current sitiation. Better safe than sorry.

 

[rjl296]

Just a few more ?'s:
1) Will any of the above compete with each other (see original post), and therefore be taken apart from each other?

2) Is the CoQ10 essential? If so what is its role in protecting the heart? Its just that it sooo expensive!

3) Whats with the Niacin?!? Just too some yesterday and within 15 minutes I had major hot flushes!

Cheers,
EG

q10 is not essential. it improves blood flow to the heart. I believe.
niacin will raise HDL cholesterol, take .5 g , 3x/day during cycle and during clomid therapy.
q10 is expensive, so its up to you.
After a couple of days, you wont flush from the niacin.

 

[PANTS]

rjl296 and Him1: Thanks bros.

Grainger: Hey Mr Antagonistic, whatever you do, don't ever plan on getting a job in public relations.
For your information I spend heaps on food (its my number one priority), and I train using DC methods periodised with some standard volume training. I train 5 days a week and do cardio.
The Niacin does cause hot flushes, though I can't remember how.

The Winny is merely a supplement. The other supplements are just there for safety.
If you want to go round with a screwed up heart, kidneys and a slap head, then good luck to ya.

OXANDRIN: Which are useless bro?

peace,
P

 

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