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The Truth About How Much Protein You Need

hurricane187 said:
not tru .. protein carlories are building block and fat and carb calories are energy calories.. a calorie is not a cal lol .. protein makes u grow is why they choose to get such large amount of their cals from it


You didn't understand what I was saying.

Which basically meant that while protein is the building blocks of muscle, that is WHY they increase the protein while decreasing carbs precontest. You still have the calories you need but they are coming from protein sources while you use your bodyfat for fuel and not dietary carbs.

I personally know over 5 IFBB pros that don't eat over 250 grams of protein in the off season.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
If diet is so important, how come there are a bunch of HUGE dudes in jail? They get to train 1-hr per day and sleep as much as they want. Their food is not the best quality and they don't even large portions. I highly doubt any of them is using Steroids.
Not true. In state prison they feed you very well on a high call diet. If you get the chance to work on the kitchen staff then you have even more food to eat.
Also big rick rock don't forget they have the (canteina) Which sells all kinds of protein packed foods like tuna,peanut butter, Deferent types of bagged fish,caned meats, and a list of other foods like chillei,lasagna,romen noodles,candy chips,cereal healthy kinds as well,granola bars,bagged nuts, and the list gos on and one... ABOUT THE ONLY THING THEY DON'T HAVE ON THE LIST IS PROTEIN POWDER!!!!

No the don't just train one hour a day. They are pretty damn inventive in jail and they find ways to work out and things to use as weights as well as getting to use the gym....So what you end up with is a bunch of guys that do nothing but eat (only real food) train and sleep all day every day. Thats how they get so big.

finding ways to get real whole food protein in every day trumps meal replacement protein hands down not even worth talking about every time.

With that being said its hard to find time,room in your belly,the knowledge of deferent recipes and cooking methods, and even the money to get all that food you need. meal replacement protein has been solving some of these problems for years now. If you are going to use meal replacement then nelson has a point. You might as well use the best you can get. If you need it.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
If diet is so important, how come there are a bunch of HUGE dudes in jail? They get to train 1-hr per day and sleep as much as they want. Their food is not the best quality and they don't even large portions. I highly doubt any of them is using Steroids.
And yes aas gets into jails!!
 
It's bullshit. 30 years of weight lifting and experiencing with different diets, all that extra protein is just pissed or farted out and it can place a stress on your kidneys... I don't need any more 120 gms per day at 220 lbs and 5'9".. Any more than that and I start farting like a packmule... It's calories consumed that's more important.
 
needtogetaas said:
And yes anabolic androgenic steroids gets into jails!!

Yes they do get into jails...all kinds...and i had a buddy upstate that acutally had a job outside that was next to a ranch..and one of the ranch hands would bring him tons and tons of finiplex pellets which he would eat like candy
 
Anyone remember Myoplex? That shit was a fucking joke. Troy Aikman used to do a commercial for them. I tried it and actually lost weight and muscle because it was a meal replacement powder with 50 gms of protein per serving and I wasn't getting as many calories as I did when I just ate normal food and less protein.... So many scams and bullshit products in this industry.
 
biteme said:
It's bullshit. 30 years of weight lifting and experiencing with different diets, all that extra protein is just pissed or farted out and it can place a stress on your kidneys... I don't need any more 120 gms per day at 220 lbs and 5'9".. Any more than that and I start farting like a packmule... It's calories consumed that's more important.



I think the Protein sources Nelson is suggesting would fix all of that since they are readily available... Is that right Nelson?
 
biteme said:
Anyone remember Myoplex? That shit was a fucking joke. Troy Aikman used to do a commercial for them. I tried it and actually lost weight and muscle because it was a meal replacement powder with 50 gms of protein per serving and I wasn't getting as many calories as I did when I just ate normal food and less protein.... So many scams and bullshit products in this industry.

That is very true.

Real food + hard work in the gym = gains
 
Army Vet said:
That is very true.

Real food + hard work in the gym = gains


My idea of the physical development pie is as follows:

30% Training
25% Genetics
20% Diet
15% Lifestyle
10% Supplements/Roids


Who agrees?
 
As mentioned, most of the protein ingested is wasted, which is why a more absorbable form of protein makes sense for the bodybuilder. And again, plama serum isn't just X amount of grams of protein. It's protein that is utilized to a much higher degree. Remember, steroids recirculate protein so you make more of what you take in. That's the whole point.

And Tatyana is right. All macronutrients are necessary. BIG BLAST also contains whole egg due to the "good" cholesterol it contains. This is something I learned fro Rheo Blair who was years ahead of his time.
 
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