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The Truth abou ANWR.

Lestat said:
I read all of your posts, you make blanket statements like "renewable energy sources in cars in unpractical."

I disagree with that. And how about moving away from cars in general? there are plenty of options and choices, I think the worst one is to continue to use oil at the same rate we are today.

Man. You really are retarded. Or you've smoked waaaay too much pot today.

pin said:
All of this is just fantisy though. The reason that I posted this thread it to show that our entire political system is a fraud. Your votes don't count. Republicans and Democrats in power argue and fight for us in front of the cameras and put on a good show. And everyone swallows their crap with a smile. Meanwhile behind the scenes they're working togather getting rich by making the ultra rich richer. And more powerful.

There is enough oil under Alaskan soil to power this entire country cheaply. But we are invading the middle east. Why?!?!?!?

Lestat is sort of right. I'm sure if we were really serious we could ween ourselves off of oil dependency in a decade or two. But why don't we?
 
pin said:
Man. You really are retarded. Or you've smoked waaaay too much pot today.
What purpose does hurling insults serve except to undermine your argument?

If you want to make a thread about how politics is corrupt and full of power hungry people who use it for their own gain you don't have to make a thread so specific and lead people to believe its about drilling and oil. I'd be happy to discuss politics with you in general, but for this thread i'll stick to drilling, oil, and alternative energy sources.

Sure, there is some oil under Alaska, and sure it could give us some short term relieve to prices. Will they be significant? Who knows. Will they be permanent? No. So for that reason I say lets devote our time, money, and energy towards something that future generations will benefit from.
 
Lestat said:
What purpose does hurling insults serve except to undermine your argument?

If you want to make a thread about how politics is corrupt and full of power hungry people who use it for their own gain you don't have to make a thread so specific and lead people to believe its about drilling and oil. I'd be happy to discuss politics with you in general, but for this thread i'll stick to drilling, oil, and alternative energy sources.

Sure, there is some oil under Alaska, and sure it could give us some short term relieve to prices. Will they be significant? Who knows. Will they be permanent? No. So for that reason I say lets devote our time, money, and energy towards something that future generations will benefit from.

Whatever idiot. You've completely missed the point. Maybe you should start from the beginning of the thread. But I don't think it will matter.
 
pin said:
Thats a good point. Nanci Pelosi wants to use our stratiegic oil reserves during a time of war in order to lower prices at the pump.

What? Does she WANT to destroy this country? :rolleyes:


Actually, I agree with that proposal. However dipping into our reserves also included funding for R&D and exploratory drilling so the oil companies could drill more wells to replace the reserves used.
 
mountain muscle said:
Actually, I agree with that proposal. However dipping into our reserves also included funding for R&D and exploratory drilling so the oil companies could drill more wells to replace the reserves used.

I would be all for it too if we weren't at war.
 
mountain muscle said:
Name the other immediate choice then.
What is the goal? To reduce the cost per gallon of gasoline?
 
pin said:
I would be all for it too if we weren't at war.

What is wrong with using Iraqi oil to reduce our costs and power the war machine? They are notoriously inept at utilizing their own reserves. No reason for us not to be paid in reduced fuel costs for our efforts to help them.
 
Lestat said:
What is the goal? To reduce the cost per gallon of gasoline?

Who cares about the cost per gallon, the goal is to keep the US economy in the lead. If drilling helps our economy then go for it, if not then wait. Easy problem to figure out IMO.
 
Megalomaniac said:
Who cares about the cost per gallon, the goal is to keep the US economy in the lead. If drilling helps our economy then go for it, if not then wait. Easy problem to figure out IMO.
I want to know what the goal is, or problem to be fixed, in order to think about potential considerations.

For this issue, whatever it is, I'd first say, lets envison Alaska didn't exist, what would our course of action be?
 
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