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heatherrae said:
fuck off, you little gnat. I don't have to prove shit to you.
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don't prove shit to me; prove it to everyone reading this thread.

the problem is you can't, because you know it isn't true, and now you have been called-out on your shit.

so either take back your statement, or prove me wrong.

have at it.
 
Sassy69 said:
Suggest we get back on topic, otherwise this thread is not going in a productive direction....
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don't worry sassy. I'm ignoring him from now on. Lying down with dogs, only gets one fleas. ;-)
 
p0ink said:
don't prove shit to me; prove it to everyone reading this thread.

the problem is you can't, because you know it isn't true, and now you have been called-out on your shit.

so either take back your statement, or prove me wrong.

have at it.
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It is true. You know it is. I've ignored it. Other people know it, as well. I don't have the ability to do a search for the post.

I think the fact remains that I teasingly called you a tool and you attacked me for having a baby and being unwed, etc, etc. I think there are plenty of single moms on this board who won't take to kindly to your insults, either. You should quit while you can.
 
heatherrae said:
It is true. You know it is. I've ignored it. Other people know it, as well. I don't have the ability to do a search for the post.

I think the fact remains that I teasingly called you a tool and you attacked me for having a baby and being unwed, etc, etc. I think there are plenty of single moms on this board who won't take to kindly to your insults, either. You should quit while you can.
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ok, since heather obviously doesn't know how to do a search, despite averaging ~40 posts per day, can someone please help her out and find any posts in which i attacked her for having a kid?

please...her credibility really depends on it.

and now you try to garnish support from others who may have some of the same similarities as you...you're pathetic.

ok, but anyways...either find it yourself, ask a plat to find it, or find someone else willing to stick their neck out, put their credibility on the line, and back you up on what you said.
 
p0ink said:
ok, since heather obviously doesn't know how to do a search, despite averaging ~40 posts per day, can someone please help her out and find any posts in which i attacked her for having a kid?

please...her credibility really depends on it.

and now you try to garnish support from others who may have some of the same similarities as you...you're pathetic.

ok, but anyways...either find it yourself, ask a plat to find it, or find someone else willing to stick their neck out, put their credibility on the line, and back you up on what you said.
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I think that the fact that you are attacking being a single mom speaks for itself. Nice try of trying to deflect attention from the nastiness that you spewed though by questioning my veracity. The fact remains you really must think it is morally reprehensible to be a single mom.

Well, please elaborate, my dear. Tell all us single moms on the board how morally superior you are. You made the statements. Please, do tell us. We are all waiting to be schooled by you about morality and the like.

I would have let it die back several posts ago. You want me to keep bringing up what you typed? I don't think you do.

That being said, don't continue to sully blueta's thread with this nonsense.
 
god, this is hopeless.

either backup what you said, or shut the fuck up. stop trying to change the subject, stop trying to find willing accomplices, just prove what you said.

but you're not going to, because you can't. so, i'm not going to bother with this anymore.

keep telling yourself that you're right, that you won, etc, etc.

may the warm, fluorescent glow of the monitor continue keeping you company on those many lonely nights.

out.
 
HumanTarget said:
all animals must exit the room during maritals....
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Corky can stay on the foot of the bed as long as he doesn't try to sniff the nether regions.
 
heatherrae said:
Corky can stay on the foot of the bed as long as he doesn't try to sniff the nether regions.
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no way. not into voyeurism. fricking animals never pay you fuck all for attention, until you're playing hide the salam.
 
p0ink said:
god, this is hopeless.

either backup what you said, or shut the fuck up. stop trying to change the subject, stop trying to find willing accomplices, just prove what you said.

but you're not going to, because you can't. so, i'm not going to bother with this anymore.

keep telling yourself that you're right, that you won, etc, etc.

may the warm, fluorescent glow of the monitor continue keeping you company on those many lonely nights.

out.
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You attacked single moms on THIS THREAD! I don't need to prove you did it in the past. Your OWN WORDS speak volumes for you here. We all know how you feel now. What you just did is like a guy calling a black guy a "N" and when he gets called out for being racist, he says "prove I said that word in the past." I think the fact that you berated single moms on this thread pretty much proves the kind of man you are.


Lonely nights? ROFL. I've never had a lack of suitors. I'm not in the least bit lonely. Nice guess and stab in the dark, though.
 
btw, 2 insults of yore were brought to my attention today, via old people:
go pound sand up your ass...&
go shit in your hat.
thank you, old folk.
 
HumanTarget said:
btw, 2 insults of yore were brought to my attention today, via old people:
go pound sand up your ass...&
go shit in your hat.
thank you, old folk.
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LOL...

I once heard "go shit in your hand and in your hat and see which one fills up fastest."

I was too perplexed to fight back. LOL.
 
heatherrae said:
LOL...

I once heard "go shit in your hand and in your hat and see which one fills up fastest."

I was too perplexed to fight back. LOL.
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i thought that was "shit in one hand and wish in the other....." but i'm not to be trusted.
 
txbondsman said:
< had child out of wedlock, my higherpower knew more than I did, imagine that. I thought that it was going to be the end of the world, it was as I knew it, but it showed me how really shallow and selfish I really was. I LOVE being a Dad, coach and buddy.. it saved me from...ME!
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KUDOS to you....love this thread!
 
HumanTarget said:
i thought that was "shit in one hand and wish in the other....." but i'm not to be trusted.
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Oh it could have been.





I'm so confused. :lmao:



I like mine better.
 
heatherrae said:
Oh yeah, you dumb little jack off, I forgot to mention that yeah, we are all aging. Fortunately, I'm happy being 36 years old. I'm happy to have a baby on the way to love and cherish. I'm happy to be unwed rather than to me married to some asshole like you. Furthermore, I am not unemployed. I have a job waiting for me as soon as this new law office gets constructed.

You can guarantee that when I am up again, I won't go around trying to stomp people while they are down, like you do. You feel better now that you attacked a pregnant woman who had to flee an abusive relationship? LOL. How low and pathetic your life must be.
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you forgot to add the most important aspect....You have a good heart and who cares if you've made bad choices or the bad chose you. We have all been down and out, but at the end of the day, if you're heart is good, that's all that matters.
 
txbondsman said:
< had child out of wedlock, my higherpower knew more than I did, imagine that. I thought that it was going to be the end of the world, it was as I knew it, but it showed me how really shallow and selfish I really was. I LOVE being a Dad, coach and buddy.. it saved me from...ME!
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Exactly.

Sometimes one just has to gather strength from somewhere and do the right thing. The easy thing would have been to just have an abortion. In my heart, I knew the RIGHT thing was to have the baby.


PS -- I love you for that post. :heart:
 
heatherrae said:
You are a liar. Plain and simple. I'm not surprised. Just add it to your other reprehensible traits.

Secondly, I dont' have search capabilities to look for your posts. Nor do I have the time nor inclination to invest energy into an idiot like you.

Thirdly, I think the fact that you brought it out of your sleeve on this thread proves the point that that is the kind of man you are. Lower than low.
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Fourthly (is that a word), you're not going to waste energy getting mad and defending yourself...cause true spirits know who you are HR! The hurtful ppl should not get an ounce of you!
 
blueta2 said:
you forgot to add the most important aspect....You have a good heart and who cares if you've made bad choices or the bad chose you. We have all been down and out, but at the end of the day, if you're heart is good, that's all that matters.
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Thanks sweetie. I know that it will be okay even though I got kicked down harder than I've ever been in life. Everything will come together, and I have learned a BIG lesson about giving trust too easily.
 
blueta2 said:
Fourthly (is that a word), you're not going to waste energy getting mad and defending yourself...cause true spirits know who you are HR! The hurtful ppl should not get an ounce of you!
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:kiss:
 
anything you need to know about life can be found in Sonny Chiba movies.
#1) trust no one
#2) become a kung fu master
 
heatherrae said:
Thanks sweetie. I know that it will be okay even though I got kicked down harder than I've ever been in life. Everything will come together, and I have learned a BIG lesson about giving trust too easily.
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And one day you will be thanking the Universe for this pain. Lessons are invaulable and believe or not, your ex did you a great service. He brought you to the next level in your life, which is going to be AWESOME!
Trust me......oh wait, you're not suppose to trust too easily....but trust me.

I've suffered immense pains and let me tell you, I am thankful for all of them
 
HumanTarget said:
anything you need to know about life can be found in Sonny Chiba movies.
#1) trust no one
#2) become a kung fu master
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Oh, do I have to burn my hands on the side of that big hot pot like in the intro for "Kung Fu." I'm allergic to pain. It hurts.
 
heatherrae said:
Oh, do I have to burn my hands on the side of that big hot pot like in the intro for "Kung Fu." I'm allergic to pain. It hurts.
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it's very monistic. "i seek water." no one had a better line.
 
p0ink said:
to my knowledge, there isn't any 'law of attraction' in physics... 'law of attraction' is simply a marketing gimmick / ploy...not something that universe is based on.

in fact, the only 'attraction law' that comes to mind is coulomb's law, which, in very vague and generic terms, states that OPPOSITES ATTRACT and LIKE FORCES REPEL.

where is samoth at?
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i figure the mystics and gurus and holy-men know something we dont about the universe. all we know here on this hemisphere is how to fight and destroy it...our scientists argue, our books are adulterated, we are not taught compassion in any way, nor understanding. everything we do, is from an academic level- which has grossly shown- its not working. thats just my opinion...to each his own. i was simply answering a question to the best of my experience and knowledge...iam not trying to convert or suggest anything...we all seek our own paths, at times there are some whom we meet along the way- that join us.

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I said this to superqt once about this topic. Most of the people on here who are in really great shape probably at least have used the law of attraction at least in that area. Think about it. They probably approach each meal and each lift thinking "I do it this way, because I am an athlete." Even before they get to the ultimate goal, they picture themselves as athletes. I doubt anyone has achieved as much success by thinking, "I better go to the gym so I don't get fat. I better not eat that or I will get fat."

Of course, that is by far oversimplification, but you see the point.
 
heatherrae said:
I said this to superqt once about this topic. Most of the people on here who are in really great shape probably at least have used the law of attraction at least in that area. Think about it. They probably approach each meal and each lift thinking "I do it this way, because I am an athlete." Even before they get to the ultimate goal, they picture themselves as athletes. I doubt anyone has achieved as much success by thinking, "I better go to the gym so I don't get fat. I better not eat that or I will get fat."

Of course, that is by far oversimplification, but you see the point.
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YES...sometimes the simplist answer is the one best understood. :)
 
p0ink said:
to my knowledge, there isn't any 'law of attraction' in physics... 'law of attraction' is simply a marketing gimmick / ploy...not something that universe is based on.

in fact, the only 'attraction law' that comes to mind is coulomb's law, which, in very vague and generic terms, states that OPPOSITES ATTRACT and LIKE FORCES REPEL.

where is samoth at?
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iam actually interested in this...could you give me an example- besides magnetic energy? i dont know about coulomb's law...do you- yourself see any obvious flaws?
 
p0ink said:
and like i said, find a thread to back up your statement you made earlier.

"Because you have consistently lobbed attacks at me for my choice to have a baby." - heatherrae

ok, so you are either lying, or you don't understand the meaning of the word 'consistently'.
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lol, dude do you honestly think someone of her character would ever admit to being wrong?

Hell no.

Just do as I do and be happy you have the option to encounter people like that on the internet and not in real life.
 
alien amp pharm said:
lol, dude do you honestly think someone of her character would ever admit to being wrong?

Hell no.

Just do as I do and be happy you have the option to encounter people like that on the internet and not in real life.
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Of MY character? LOL. You have a problem with single moms too? LOL @ some little twerp who comes on the internet saying I don't do shit for my bitch on Valentines Day, and she will go down on my anyway. :lmao: Yeah, come teach sunday school this weekend to improve my character, after you convince yourself that your balls have descended enough that you don't have to continue to post about your sexual conquests.
 
rykertest said:
I agree with you 100%, but I don't with how this is being portrayed as some new sophisticated answer to life. Thinking positive and believing in ones self to overcome challenges is not a new message. Especially in America however, we have cultivated a society of weak minded hypersensitive people (especially in the male portion of our population) so this type of thinking is considered revolutionary, when self worth and positive thinking was the norm in my house as a child, as well as the norm for our parents and grandparents in general. When I hear people rave about how the secret taught them to think positive and overcome a difficult challenge, I'm happy for them and yet I pity them. (speaking as an American here for a second) we shoot ourselves in the foot by raising a nation of mental wimps and then developing a "system" to repair that damage. I guess I don't know WTF we expect, and why this sick little cycle we are in surprises us.
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i couldn't have said it better.
blueta- it's actually worth the money if you feel your life, or a part of it, needs changing.
i don't own it, but i've read it and i think enough of it sunk in for me to actually change my life around and i've never been happier.
 
p0ink said:
where is samoth at?
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Avoiding this thread. It's the exact same motivational psychology used by everyone else, just marketed differently. Personally, I prefer VoxDeis's old newsletters.

There is nothing secret or new to this, other than marketing and advertising opening up the area of motivational psychology to people who wouldn't otherwise be exposed to it.



:cow:
 
samoth said:
Credited. Perhaps refurbished would be a better word.



:cow:
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Then I would concur.


There was one part of it that I wanted you to listen to, however. There is a part where they talk about energy, etc. Wanted to get your opinion on it from a physicists point of view.
 
Most people who follow western philosophy are locked into the paradigm that spirituality and science are mutually exclusive, when in reality they are not ... it gels when you bring in the theories of quantum physics (especially the Zero Point Field).

We are a part of the universe. The universe is G-O-D. The Universe and everything in it is made of Energy. Energy cannot be destroyed, it just takes another form. All that is, all that was, and all that ever will be exists within the realm of possibility of the Zero Point Field, which is the body of G-O-D.
 
musclemom said:
Most people who follow western philosophy are locked into the paradigm that spirituality and science are mutually exclusive, when in reality they are not ... it gels when you bring in the theories of quantum physics (especially the Zero Point Field).

We are a part of the universe. The universe is G-O-D. The Universe and everything in it is made of Energy. Energy cannot be destroyed, it just takes another form. All that is, all that was, and all that ever will be exists within the realm of possibility of the Zero Point Field, which is the body of G-O-D.
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Yes, I agree. That is the part I wanted Samoth to listen to. Now where did that science guy go, God bless him?
 
stilleto said:
i couldn't have said it better.
blueta- it's actually worth the money if you feel your life, or a part of it, needs changing.
i don't own it, but i've read it and i think enough of it sunk in for me to actually change my life around and i've never been happier.
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My thought patterns need to be changed. Too many toxins up there!
I'm going to order it for sure....thanks G :-)
 
p0ink said:
you're the one saying, "It is just the Law of Attraction. I'm surprised so many doubt that", as if it were some universal law / concept (like gravity) that everyone with half-a-brain should know.

secondly, i watched the video...and it was good, and i did learn something...but this is nothing new or profound. they bring out physicists and do a half-hearted attempt at incorporating some of the most very basic ideas in physics in hopes of convincing people there is some concrete, scientific law that proves their video to be.

i don't know why you routinely choose to lob personal attacks directed at me, simply because you don't agree with what i have to say.

sure, i may be a 'tool' in your eyes, but that is your opinion. however, it is a fact that you are an aging, unwed, unemployed, thirty-something year old, who is having a child out of wedlock.
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That post (especially the last part) is uncalled for man, seriously. I usually like your posts, but this ones BS. Prick.
 
heatherrae said:
Nice segway. Back to the secret. "I am surrounded by warm, kind and supportive people who love me." ;-)
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you have to rock back and forth and roll your eyes back in your head when you say that.
:p
 
rykertest said:
you have to rock back and forth and roll your eyes back in your head when you say that.
:p
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silly butt.

You know lots of coaches and athletes use these techniques. It really isn't all as far out as you think it is.
 
heatherrae said:
Of MY character? LOL. You have a problem with single moms too? LOL @ some little twerp who comes on the internet saying I don't do shit for my bitch on Valentines Day, and she will go down on my anyway. :lmao: Yeah, come teach sunday school this weekend to improve my character, after you convince yourself that your balls have descended enough that you don't have to continue to post about your sexual conquests.
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lol...she just took your balls from you alien ass farm.
 
Sassy69 said:
Suggest we get back on topic, otherwise this thread is not going in a productive direction....
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Lmao. I didn't even remember what the thread was about when I got caught up in heatherrae and p0ink's argument.

I think they should apoligize to each other and decide at the moment to start thinking positive. I see both sides of their argument. They are both strong-willed people, who both think they are right :) There is NOTHING wrong with that, however, they should consider the ways that they are both wrong (in poinks case, not noticing that heatherrae had just been teasing him and in HR's case, not being technically correct in her response to him).

If they could only see the other side, this thread would truly be going in the right direction.

I've personally improved a bunch over the past year at admitting my wrongs. I still have sooo much work to do on "the secret"---all i've done so far is watch the Oprah show. I know it would help me so much to start thinking positive. I'm more of an analyzer than a "do-er", though (my analyzing of the bickering should be enough proof, lol) I'm changing that starting in 10 seconds. 10...9....8.7.6.5.4.3.3.2.....1. I have a strong, powerful mind and body that thinks positively, eats healthy food, and exercises diligently.

And...everyone on this thread loves me and enjoys my posts.
 
samoth said:
Avoiding this thread. It's the exact same motivational psychology used by everyone else, just marketed differently. Personally, I prefer VoxDeis's old newsletters.

There is nothing secret or new to this, other than marketing and advertising opening up the area of motivational psychology to people who wouldn't otherwise be exposed to it.



:cow:
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my post: page 3 #53....thank you. :)
 
rocky_road said:
Lmao. I didn't even remember what the thread was about when I got caught up in heatherrae and p0ink's argument.

I think they should apoligize to each other and decide at the moment to start thinking positive. I see both sides of their argument. They are both strong-willed people, who both think they are right :) There is NOTHING wrong with that, however, they should consider the ways that they are both wrong (in poinks case, not noticing that heatherrae had just been teasing him and in HR's case, not being technically correct in her response to him).

If they could only see the other side, this thread would truly be going in the right direction.

I've personally improved a bunch over the past year at admitting my wrongs. I still have sooo much work to do on "the secret"---all i've done so far is watch the Oprah show. I know it would help me so much to start thinking positive. I'm more of an analyzer than a "do-er", though (my analyzing of the bickering should be enough proof, lol) I'm changing that starting in 10 seconds. 10...9....8.7.6.5.4.3.3.2.....1. I have a strong, powerful mind and body that thinks positively, eats healthy food, and exercises diligently.

And...everyone on this thread loves me and enjoys my posts.
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No offense, but PLEASE! What part was technically wrong? Yeah, I'm going to apologize to a guy like that. He is an evil person, plain and simple.
 
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heatherrae said:
You have a problem with single moms too? .
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There you go accusing me of shit I didn't even remotely say.

heatherrae said:
LOL @ some little twerp who comes on the internet saying I don't do shit for my bitch on Valentines Day, and she will go down on my anyway.
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I didn't call her a bitch, but you seem to enjoy doing it.

Plus I never said I didn't do "shit" for her, rather I did not buy her materialistic gifts like you seem to treasure so dearly.

__ See, your character is that of a self-righteous, know-it-all feminist. You will never be pleased with life because no man will ever be able to satisfy your never-ending demands & ever-changing expectations. You will always feel as if you are being a victim and will never admit (think) you do any wrong. You will surely have no problem getting a man with your large breasts and semi-attractive exterior (which is fading quickly), but keeping one in a happy committed relationship will never happen for you. Go ahead and say that I do not know you in real life....Fact is I know your type from reading your constant drivel on here.
 
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rykertest said:
lol...she just took your balls from you alien ass farm.
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you may want to wipe the shit from your mouth from sucking her ass so much.

go eflirt some more maybe you can be somebody on the internet.
 
ANNNNNNNNNNYWAY....
blueta, remember I may have told you that you remind me a bit of a friend of mine? well she was single for like 13 years after her husband left her for another woman he had gotten pregnant.
my friend was also pregnant at the time, but lost the baby and never had another.
well, she dated for the past 12 years or so, and didn't have any trouble getting a date, but they never lasted, which made it worse.
Her anger and bitterness was still out there. whether she knew it or not, she was projecting it.
once she let go of that anger and thought positively, things improved for her a LOT.
 
alien amp pharm said:
There you go accusing me of shit I didn't even remotely say.



I didn't call her a bitch, but you seem to enjoy doing it.

Plus I never said I didn't do "shit" for her, rather I did not buy her materialistic gifts like you seem to treasure so dearly.

__ See, your character is that of a self-righteous, know-it-all feminist. You will never be pleased with life because no man will ever be able to satisfy your never-ending demands & ever-changing expectations. You will always feel as if you are being a victim and will never admit (think) you do any wrong. You will surely have no problem getting a man with your large breasts and semi-attractive exterior (which is fading quickly), but keeping one in a happy committed relationship will never happen for you. Go ahead and say that I do not know you in real life....Fact is I know your type from reading your constant drivel on here.
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yeah, aap, I think I will really worry about your relationship advice. You seem to have it ALL figured out. You are demeaning to your own girl on here and women in general. I would rather be alone than end up with a man like you, that is for certain.

And if speaking out when men are disrespectful makes me a feminist, then yeah I'll proudly wear the label. So sorry that weak men like you find it hard to handle anything but bubble heads. Perhaps you should go play with them since they are more on your level.
 
stilleto said:
ANNNNNNNNNNYWAY....
blueta, remember I may have told you that you remind me a bit of a friend of mine? well she was single for like 13 years after her husband left her for another woman he had gotten pregnant.
my friend was also pregnant at the time, but lost the baby and never had another.
well, she dated for the past 12 years or so, and didn't have any trouble getting a date, but they never lasted, which made it worse.
Her anger and bitterness was still out there. whether she knew it or not, she was projecting it.
once she let go of that anger and thought positively, things improved for her a LOT.
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Yeah I do recall you told me about her. I was never alone for 13 yrs, but yeah I can see how someone can be totally bitter from that!
I would not classify myself in the same regard as your friend, but I can relate and need to adjust my toxic thinking.
Things will improve for me when I stop beating myself up for not being "perfect". I am pretty hard on myself.
 
PBR said:
THE SECERET has to do with affrimation...programming the mind in a positive shift...

iam one of many who has started the program...i have suggested it to a couple members here. it has to do with mind synchro- balancing right and left brain. training the mind with positive affirmations. it teaches meditation, not so much as a skill but puts the mind into the desired states of alpa, delta and theta waves so meditation can be acheived. this is not the SECERET per se but the founders program behind the SECERET called THE HOLOSYNC SOLUTION...it uses sound technology to create the same patterns in the brain as a deep meditation...

this is a much deeper program than THE SECERET- but as i said it is what was used to get that particular program into the masses. I can tell you it is money extremely well spent...
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are the authors those 2 guys that were on Oprah? If so, thats a great book. But I doubt that the people with the REAL negative vibes are gonna quite get it.
 
PICK3 said:
I writing a book entitled, "The Secret to Scoring Nannie"
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I smell a best seller in the making....that or maybe my dog just got sick...
 
Is this subliminal?

If so, when I was still skating we had a team coach that swore by two things - the then unknown USHI Kesler (choreographer) and "subliminal tapes".

While I would have never admitted it then (they did work).

As for 'the secret' never heard of it until now.
 
velvett said:
Is this subliminal?

If so, when I was still skating we had a team coach that swore by two things - the then unknown USHI Kesler (choreographer) and "subliminal tapes".

While I would have never admitted it then (they did work).

As for 'the secret' never heard of it until now.
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its not subliminal
its basically about how you get back what you put out (to the world) and about positive thinking. although, its also about positive ACTIONS, not just thinking.
you can get what you want from life, when you stop letting your self hold yourself back.
 
velvett said:
Is this subliminal?

If so, when I was still skating we had a team coach that swore by two things - the then unknown USHI Kesler (choreographer) and "subliminal tapes".

While I would have never admitted it then (they did work).

As for 'the secret' never heard of it until now.
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I posted the links on page 2 or 3 if you would like to watch it. It isn't subliminal.
 
stilleto said:
its not subliminal
its basically about how you get back what you put out (to the world) and about positive thinking. although, its also about positive ACTIONS, not just thinking.
you can get what you want from life, when you stop letting your self hold yourself back.
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Ah - I thought I saw something posted by PBR about sound technology and i remembered it as being subliminal.
 
argh - there is no 'secret'.

let me break it down for you, you visualize yourself doing/becoming/gaining whatever makes you happy, and it will magically come true, if you just try 'hard enough'.

this is nothing new, and it has been used in countless self-help books, videos, and seminars, since the industry began.

they try to market it as if some cosmic force is behind this 'secret', and they get a bunch of people you never heard of, who tell you all sorts of stories and unsubstantiated tales of how it worked for them blah blah blah.

i will bet serious money that i have done more reading on metaphysics and the occult than anyone else on this board. and though i am far from being any expert, i can guarantee you, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that the oprah winfrey show would not feature any sort of ancient, esoteric 'secret', or anything else that may even be remotely involved in the occult.

sorry, but that's the truth.
 
One of my favorite motivational pieces from the VoxDeis newsletters was titled, "Stop whining and do something about it".

I wish that could be programmed into peoples' heads before birth...



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p0ink said:
argh - there is no 'secret'.

let me break it down for you, you visualize yourself doing/becoming/gaining whatever makes you happy, and it will magically come true, if you just try 'hard enough'.

this is nothing new, and it has been used in countless self-help books, videos, and seminars, since the industry began.

they try to market it as if some cosmic force is behind this 'secret', and they get a bunch of people you never heard of, who tell you all sorts of stories and unsubstantiated tales of how it worked for them blah blah blah.

i will bet serious money that i have done more reading on metaphysics and the occult than anyone else on this board. and though i am far from being any expert, i can guarantee you, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that the oprah winfrey show would not feature any sort of ancient, esoteric 'secret', or anything else that may even be remotely involved in the occult.

sorry, but that's the truth.
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No one ever said it was esoteric or involved in the occult. Yesterday you had never heard of it, and today you are presuming to lecture about it.
 
p0ink said:
argh - there is no 'secret'.

let me break it down for you, you visualize yourself doing/becoming/gaining whatever makes you happy, and it will magically come true, if you just try 'hard enough'.
Click to expand...

visualize?
didja read it?
 
heatherrae said:
No one ever said it was esoteric or involved in the occult. Yesterday you had never heard of it, and today you are presuming to lecture about it.
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i watched the video yesterday, and formed my own opinions.

yes, they do have some phd's talking to you, but the other people are metaphysicists (not the philosophical kind, but the creepy kind who wear crystals and think they can part clouds with their thoughts types), a feng shui interior designer, some reverend of some unknown religion, and a couple of authors, who just happened to already put out several self-help books in the past.
 
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