The right Gas to use for a Keto program, no fuckin energy at all for workouts

[solidspine]

There are two retail outlets in the residential part of South Las Vegas,

Both specializing in low carb or ketosis food they also sell supplement to help with low energy, may have a web site,

 

[jijipuku]

Wulfgar, how's your sodium and water intake while in a restricted carb diet(low-carb) ?

 

[gjohnson5]

when I first got onto a low carb diet , I too felt lethargic , but there was a 2-3 month adjustment period. I even got sick once or twice. After that I was able to lift weights and have some energy on ketosis

Sesamin and acetyl-l-carnitine also help in providing energy

 

[johnny g]

I'm surpeised anyone does the Keto diet anymore. A ridiculous, catabolic, muscle wasting, unhealthy and inneffective attempt to burn fat. Taxes the adrenal system. Raises cortisol and adrenaline. Causes dehydration which strains the heart. Horrible. Eat a piece of bread already.

Lol, not a personal attack, but are you really suprised that people are still doing keto diets? You always seem to go against the norm or what general consensus of things. From my experience they work amazingly well and I havent lost muscle, all based on my measurements. I have tried regular keto and now bodyopus. What is Your take on dieting?

 

[gjohnson5]

Unfortunately I am in agreement that these comments make no sense.
I was on a keto diet for well over a year and I never lost muscle. Cortisol levels can be lowered by supplementation and It makes no sense how lower carbs can somehow override drinking water for hydration

This was silly

I'm surpeised anyone does the Keto diet anymore. A ridiculous, catabolic, muscle wasting, unhealthy and inneffective attempt to burn fat. Taxes the adrenal system. Raises cortisol and adrenaline. Causes dehydration which strains the heart. Horrible. Eat a piece of bread already.

 

[gautho]

I personally don't use the keto diet, i find it way too difficult to maximize and incorporate Gh and slin with this type of scenario. However, i know people who do use this diet, and let me tell you when they dial it in, they dial it in. They can get as dry as a bag of Lays Potatoe chips, however, it is often a hit or miss thing. Through the years i've mastered carb depletion/carb loading with proper sodium manipulation, so i stick with what works for me.

 

[Wulfgar]

Whats up Wufgar, I am actually following bodyopus and yes there have been certain weeks where energy gets sapped. Are you low- carbing the entire week? If you are, you might consider adding a carb loading day.

Also from suggestions/info i recieved do not add any t3 because we are in a semi-catabolic state and that t3 might chewup some muscle.

Only thing I noticed was that when I dont get enough sleep 8hrs on this diet i cant train. You might also be eating to much protein and not enough fat.

Whats your training split? cardio? Are you supplementing those things you dont get enough of like potassium, Mag., Calcium? Multi-Vitamin? Dbols are just gonna make you more sleepy.

Look into bodyopus. I get weekend carb ups whichs definatey helps me personally.

T3 used properly can actually be anabolic since it will increase metabolic rate and nutrient absorbtion. but a high level of protein is definately required, and in doing so we may not be able to reach ketosis too easily so it may be something worth experimenting with.
As far as seep goes I have never been a long sleeper, 6 hours at the most. I have noticed, if anything, I have been more energetic and sleeping a bit less than usual since I began this program(possibly because of the much more consistant blood sugar levels not causing any crashing). I supplement heavily with vitamins and minerals so I do not think that is a problem.

I am familiar with bodyopus and thier carbing up on weekend and off days coupled with absolute 0 days during the week and I beleive there is merit to it. my major goals for this cycle are
1. minimize water bloat
2. level blood sugar levels
3. maintain a steady state of ketosis to burn fat stores preferentially for energy
4. maximize anabolism through adequate protein intake and absorption and steady high levels of anabolic agents(prostaglandins from the healthy fats, creatine from the red meats)
5. minimize stomach bloat from massive carb intake
6. minimize catabolism

there are definately tweaks to each individual through this but it seems to be, done right, the people who pull this off are in shape almost year round and make seemingly consistant gains without the severe changes in weight that most carb happy bodybuilders have to deal with in switching from offseason to precontest modes several times a year

 

[Wulfgar]

Wulfgar, how's your sodium and water intake while in a restricted carb diet(low-carb) ?

water intake is medium to high(1-1.5 gal per day). sodium has all been replaced with sea salt to minimize bloat. I do obviously get some from the eggs however.

 

[Wulfgar]

when I first got onto a low carb diet , I too felt lethargic , but there was a 2-3 month adjustment period. I even got sick once or twice. After that I was able to lift weights and have some energy on ketosis

Sesamin and acetyl-l-carnitine also help in providing energy

thanks for the advice on the sesamin and ALC brother. I have some extra in the pharmacy(my kitchen) that i could use up..

 

[Wulfgar]

Wulfgar


Are you actually in ketosis,

I have never achieved that goal, but have felt just as lethargic on low carb diets as you are explaining

The strip said about 85 this morning. almost in the darkest region but not quite. so obviously I am creating ketone bodies.
I know the basic ketosis diet preaches nearly 90% fat, 10% protein and trace carbs
I obviously beleive that this is NOT for bodybuilders to follow to the T. However, there is a great deal of support to the fact that doing such a diet for a day or even half a day will put your body imediately into heavy ketosis. I have not tried it yet. I was hoping possibly someone who has would let me know thier results on it