The right Gas to use for a Keto program, no fuckin energy at all for workouts

[gjohnson5]

Do you use liver pills? Since they contain protein and should have little to no carbs, they should help. Also liver contain lots of B vitamins which should help energy levels.

I never did that on ketosis because I didn't think of it

 

[Wulfgar]

^^^ good call bro
K comin your way

 

[Nelson Montana]

Not to pick a fight, but if you actually think a high carb/low fat diet is more effective and muscle sparing, you're crazy.

Who said anything about high carbs?

 

[Vascular Freak]

bro here is my advice as you are eating similar to me. Your protein intake is right on...supps look good except i would add in 3 g l tyrosine throughout the day trust me on that bro it REALLY helps prevent CNS overload from training....BUT i wouldn't quite drop down to 30 g at your size....keep fat/pro where its at but bump the pre and post workout carbs up to about 40 g pre and post workout for a total of 80g and get that all from oats...that will go a LONG way in bettering your workouts and recovery and also muscle pumps. Then at all other times of the say stick to 40-50 meat protein and 15 g good fats every 2 hours. Also DO NOT train at real high intensity when carbs are low....you will deplete atp stores after a few sets and will get no pump/strength whatsoever... stick to heavy weight 8-12 reps and stop short of failure....otherwise you will elevate cortisol beyond belief.

 

[Wulfgar]

bro here is my advice as you are eating similar to me. Your protein intake is right on...supps look good except i would add in 3 g l tyrosine throughout the day trust me on that bro it REALLY helps prevent CNS overload from training....BUT i wouldn't quite drop down to 30 g at your size....keep fat/pro where its at but bump the pre and post workout carbs up to about 40 g pre and post workout for a total of 80g and get that all from oats...that will go a LONG way in bettering your workouts and recovery and also muscle pumps. Then at all other times of the say stick to 40-50 meat protein and 15 g good fats every 2 hours. Also DO NOT train at real high intensity when carbs are low....you will deplete atp stores after a few sets and will get no pump/strength whatsoever... stick to heavy weight 8-12 reps and stop short of failure....otherwise you will elevate cortisol beyond belief.

good advice brother
today what I did was I added about 60 carbs preworkout(from potato, some oatmeal and applejuice), did a GREAT leg workout. strength was up, not great, but better, but I had a great pump with suprisingly light weights. kept the reps on the working sets even lower(around 3-8) and stopped before failure. rest of the day I had a few protein shakes with scoops of PB for 2-3 meals, and i had 3 meals which composed of chicken, buffalo, eggs and a green salad with some Hempseed oil, flax and olive oil.

like i said I feel great right now.
I will definately take you up on the tyrosine. Ive tried it during T3 use and it worked wonders.
Still in ketosis @ 8PM tonight(stick reads around 80).

I need to keep a log..lol

 

[BigCracker]

I use ECA and a few bong hits to get me in the zone. MCT's with every meal. For a great cycle carb diet try getting the book Sliced by Negrita Jayde.

 

[Vascular Freak]

good advice brother
today what I did was I added about 60 carbs preworkout(from potato, some oatmeal and applejuice), did a GREAT leg workout. strength was up, not great, but better, but I had a great pump with suprisingly light weights. kept the reps on the working sets even lower(around 3-8) and stopped before failure. rest of the day I had a few protein shakes with scoops of PB for 2-3 meals, and i had 3 meals which composed of chicken, buffalo, eggs and a green salad with some Hempseed oil, flax and olive oil.

like i said I feel great right now.
I will definately take you up on the tyrosine. Ive tried it during T3 use and it worked wonders.
Still in ketosis @ 8PM tonight(stick reads around 80).

I need to keep a log..lol

sounds right on man!!! i find myself that if i drop carbs too low and am NOT using real high doses of gear and t3 that fat loss stops and i flatten out donn't make any gains whether muscle increase or fat loss. if a little extra carbs makes your training MUCH better than that alone will put you 2 steps ahead of where u'd be trying to really slash carbs and as a result having bad training sessions.

 

[The_Chemist]

I believe the combination of Tren and a Targeted ketogenic diet, permanenetly changed my physique. I had cuts so deep that you could stick qaurters in them.

That being said, I simply couldnt deal with the hypoglycemia. I would get shaky, pale and pour in cold sweats after a workout as my body was craving carbs!

In retrospect, the addition of Tren was a regretable decision becuase Tren drmatically raises IGF-1 levels which in-turn promotes a hyploglycemic state. I know what you mean, when you say that you like to SEE the changes in your physique by staying lean.

 

[HollywoodSwole]

i didnt read the whole thread, but for what its worth, the only thing to ever get me through a workout while on a keto diet was an EC stack.

 

[jerkbox]

when I first got onto a low carb diet , I too felt lethargic , but there was a 2-3 month adjustment period. I even got sick once or twice. After that I was able to lift weights and have some energy on ketosis

this is exactly why I dont go the keto route...I would get sick after about a month or so.....I would eat some carbs, next day I'd be 100% fine.


there is definitely an adjustment period before you feel you have energy and feel good in general.

Anyway, Wulfgar, if you're looking for a resource on keto diets, Underground Bodyopus by Dan Duchaine is a resource, if you don't have it already.