*The Perpetual Muscle Mass EXPLOSION: Pre-PCT(Active Recovery), Bridging & Cruising*

[Wulfgar]

Re: *The Perpetual Muscle Mass EXPLOSION: Pre-PCT(Active Recovery), Bridging & Cruisi

Pre-PCT is to be used BEFORE PCT!!

Aftr your Test/Deca cycle, you ar SHUTDOWN! The GOAL is to TRANSITION from SHUTDOWN, to INIHIBITED, to RECOVERED.

You can NOT just go from SHUTDOWN straight into PCT.

Let's say you run TEST and DECA for 10 weeks.

I SAY, rather than going straight into PCT, run Primobolan at 300mgs for another 4-6 weeks! This will allow the HPTA to BEGIN RECOVERING while your body still remains in an anabolic state. THEN, after the 6 weeks of Primo, RUN PCT!

So what exactly kickstarts the body into recovering from a shutdown point?

to the best of my knowledge when the HPTA is shutdown and high levels of testosterone are detected the body will mass produce estrogen, cortisol and to a lesser degree glucagon, all of which are catabolic and meant to bring the body quickly back to homeostasis
with that being said, the body needs to detect LH in roder to intitiate test production in the testes. if estrogen and cortisol are the dominant hormons is your theory that the body will just begin to regulate itself? and by doing AAS that are not inhibiting HPTA function we can keep some of those cortisol levels down?
what about estrogenic fatty acid deposits or lack of sex drive or gyno or any of the other signs of emasculation that come from estrogen being the dominant hormone in the body?

just random thoughts here, i understand that low dose, low androgenic high anabolic steroids will help to miantain muscle but wouldnt it just be wiser to begin PCT about 2 weeks before your stop date? assuming you re finishing a cycle with mainly low-HPTA suppressing gear, this would give the body a chance to stay anabolic while at the same time replenishing natural test levels. One would think to be smart PCT would include some anti estrogenic compunds/HPTA stimulating compounds/ and anti-cortisol producing compuds such as metrapryone or trilostane or formestane or something of that nature( i personally would think GH/ slin and IGF-1 would be great here).

anyhow just my 2 cents..you seem to be onto something here..I am jut looking for clarification

 

[Mac173]

What I'm saying is I would like to purchase your book if possible. I guess I didn't make myself clear on that one. You know, if guys that had products to sell on this board or any board took your approach they would have much more success. You've consistently demonstrated with facts, experience, and good communication that you are a credible person and that is hard to do with someone like myself.

I'm one of those guys that thinks most of these people on board that claim to be anything are quacks. And I know Anthony is not a quack, he just has not demonstrated his knowledge to me as you have. Like he said earlier in another thread though, the forums are not where the money is at, but I disagree.

As a salesman, if someone comes along that has ragged clothes on or just doesn't seem rich, and I choose to ignore that person then I am passing up not only a potential sale, but the word of mouth advertising that that person most likely will give me. If you want to increase your net profits you must look at every forum, avenue, or person as a customer and not pass it off because they produce such a low percentage of net profit. Cents makes dollars.

And I don't agree with constantly soliciting either, but put a small word out and then just treat people right and you will have success.

I agree w/ this.
I have not seen him lose his cool, fly off the handle, yell obsentities or any other of the childish and unproffesional behaviour that is displayed around here on a daily basis.
Even when people argue w/ him he keeps things civil.
Even if you don't agree w/ what he says, he does seem like he is here to ACTUALLY help and in the manner that he conducts himself should be awarded.

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: *The Perpetual Muscle Mass EXPLOSION: Pre-PCT(Active Recovery), Bridging & Cruisi

So what exactly kickstarts the body into recovering from a shutdown point?

to the best of my knowledge when the HPTA is shutdown and high levels of testosterone are detected the body will mass produce estrogen, cortisol and to a lesser degree glucagon, all of which are catabolic and meant to bring the body quickly back to homeostasis
with that being said, the body needs to detect LH in roder to intitiate test production in the testes. if estrogen and cortisol are the dominant hormons is your theory that the body will just begin to regulate itself? and by doing AAS that are not inhibiting HPTA function we can keep some of those cortisol levels down?
what about estrogenic fatty acid deposits or lack of sex drive or gyno or any of the other signs of emasculation that come from estrogen being the dominant hormone in the body?

just random thoughts here, i understand that low dose, low androgenic high anabolic steroids will help to miantain muscle but wouldnt it just be wiser to begin PCT about 2 weeks before your stop date? assuming you re finishing a cycle with mainly low-HPTA suppressing gear, this would give the body a chance to stay anabolic while at the same time replenishing natural test levels. One would think to be smart PCT would include some anti estrogenic compunds/HPTA stimulating compounds/ and anti-cortisol producing compuds such as metrapryone or trilostane or formestane or something of that nature( i personally would think GH/ slin and IGF-1 would be great here).

anyhow just my 2 cents..you seem to be onto something here..I am jut looking for clarification

welcome to the crime seen bro...good to have you here.

 

[OMEGA]

Am I civil guys or just a bad bro?

 

[Mac173]

Am I civil guys or just a bad bro?

This is what I think of you

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: *The Perpetual Muscle Mass EXPLOSION: Pre-PCT(Active Recovery), Bridging & Cruisi

Am I civil guys or just a bad bro?

we love you to big boy.....

 

[Ross]

Re: *The Perpetual Muscle Mass EXPLOSION: Pre-PCT(Active Recovery), Bridging & Cruisi

So what exactly kickstarts the body into recovering from a shutdown point?

to the best of my knowledge when the HPTA is shutdown and high levels of testosterone are detected the body will mass produce estrogen, cortisol and to a lesser degree glucagon, all of which are catabolic and meant to bring the body quickly back to homeostasis
with that being said, the body needs to detect LH in roder to intitiate test production in the testes. if estrogen and cortisol are the dominant hormons is your theory that the body will just begin to regulate itself? and by doing AAS that are not inhibiting HPTA function we can keep some of those cortisol levels down?
what about estrogenic fatty acid deposits or lack of sex drive or gyno or any of the other signs of emasculation that come from estrogen being the dominant hormone in the body?

just random thoughts here, i understand that low dose, low androgenic high anabolic steroids will help to miantain muscle but wouldnt it just be wiser to begin PCT about 2 weeks before your stop date? assuming you re finishing a cycle with mainly low-HPTA suppressing gear, this would give the body a chance to stay anabolic while at the same time replenishing natural test levels. One would think to be smart PCT would include some anti estrogenic compunds/HPTA stimulating compounds/ and anti-cortisol producing compuds such as metrapryone or trilostane or formestane or something of that nature( i personally would think GH/ slin and IGF-1 would be great here).

anyhow just my 2 cents..you seem to be onto something here..I am jut looking for clarification

GREAT questions bro!

In order to understand HOW the HPTA begins to RECOVER, we must first understand HOW it "shuts down"...

The Hypothalamus has Androgen, Estrogen, and Progesterone receptors.

Each and EVERY anabolic steroid affects these receptors DIFFERENTLY. Some steroids affect ALL receptors, while some only affect ONE type of receptor, while others have very little effect on ANY of these receptors.

Steroids that cause an OVERSATURATION(too many receptors activated) of these various hormone receptors, WILL CAUSE SHUTDOWN.

Steroids that DO NOT CAUSE an OVERSATURATION of ANY of these various hormone receptors, will NOT cause SHUTDOWN!

Likewise, AS SOON AS YOUR HYPOTHALAMUS DETECTS A DECREASE IN HORMONE LEVELS, it responds by once again, secreting LH/FSH. Your HPTA will begin to RECOVER as soon as you LET IT! Meaning, running Primobolan at 200mgs will ALLOW the HPTA to recover BECAUSE NONE OF THE VARIOUS HORMONE RECEPTORS BECOME OVERSATURATED.

 

[OMEGA]

Re: *The Perpetual Muscle Mass EXPLOSION: Pre-PCT(Active Recovery), Bridging & Cruisi

This is what I think of you

sweeet



lmao

 

[OMEGA]

Re: *The Perpetual Muscle Mass EXPLOSION: Pre-PCT(Active Recovery), Bridging & Cruisi

we love you to big boy.....

good bros

 

[Ross]

Instant CLASSIC right here fellas...