*The Perpetual Muscle Mass EXPLOSION: Pre-PCT(Active Recovery), Bridging & Cruising*

[tshoot]

id like to see some bloodwork done on a subject while doing this pre-pct to get an actual answer.. sounds interesting though, bump

Agree 100%, but unless it has already been done, it would take months (if not longer) to get back the info for one test subject much less multiple test subjects.

 

[Primordial Performance]

If your interested in preventing suppression while on AAS this article may be of some interest to you guys –

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/potratz/opioid-modulation.htm

Have you had a chance to read this Ross?

-Pp

 

[Slyder190]

Well when you get down to the real science of things, I don't think it's fair to take a shot at all of the guys who aren't Bio Chemistry majors. It's best to learns as much as you can, I think learning is the real point of the whole game. Learning is how you progress. It can get confusing though when you have guys like Nelson, PP, and Ross arguing theories and ideas and what not. It can be easy to get lost or not know who to beleive. From is first post, I knew Ross was selling something, just not quite yet. And gusy like Nelson and PP seem knowledgable as well, but I for one am always weary of those who are trying to sell you something, because what is their real motive? At first glance at all of this debate, I must say that I am leaning towards PP and Nelson. No offense to you Ross.

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: *The Perpetual Muscle Mass EXPLOSION: Pre-PCT(Active Recovery), Bridging & Cruisi

If your interested in preventing suppression while on AAS this article may be of some interest to you guys –

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/potratz/opioid-modulation.htm

Have you had a chance to read this Ross?

-Pp

I have psted that on the boards a few times....dame good read.I loved it.

 

[Bruce]

no offense but aren't you the guy that ran 100mg of var with 100mg of tbol and then got banned for scamming or some shit. this is not a new concept and in no way are their studies to back that your test is coming back. the only thing you can go by is experience. all the good vets i know around here use a short ester while their long ester is clearing. if you are running a short cycle say 6 weeks of tren and prop you go right into pct. aside from that using proviron at the end of a cycle or throughout it greatly increases recovery. i have no studies to back this just the fact that i kept 17 of 25 lbs gained doing it that way and lost all and then some when i did it the old way

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: *The Perpetual Muscle Mass EXPLOSION: Pre-PCT(Active Recovery), Bridging & Cruisi

no offense but aren't you the guy that ran 100mg of var with 100mg of tbol and then got banned for scamming or some shit. this is not a new concept and in no way are their studies to back that your test is coming back. the only thing you can go by is experience. all the good vets i know around here use a short ester while their long ester is clearing. if you are running a short cycle say 6 weeks of tren and prop you go right into pct. aside from that using proviron at the end of a cycle or throughout it greatly increases recovery. i have no studies to back this just the fact that i kept 17 of 25 lbs gained doing it that way and lost all and then some when i did it the old way

lol was he

 

[Xconcept00]

#1 i feel bad for ross' testicles
#2 just because your "jacked" don't mean you got brains

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: *The Perpetual Muscle Mass EXPLOSION: Pre-PCT(Active Recovery), Bridging & Cruisi

#1 i feel bad for ross' testicles
#2 just because your "jacked" don't mean you got brains

llmao at 1

 

[Sam5]

The only problem I see here, Ross, is that 4-6 weeks would not be enough time to allow any upstart of the HPTA if your starting with a 100% shutdown state. I can see your logic here and the pre-PCT is not for me but if you were to run it for like 10-12 weeks I could see a semblance of natural test having come back from the dead and then you would be primed for PCT.

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: *The Perpetual Muscle Mass EXPLOSION: Pre-PCT(Active Recovery), Bridging & Cruisi

The only problem I see here, Ross, is that 4-6 weeks would not be enough time to allow any upstart of the HPTA if your starting with a 100% shutdown state. I can see your logic here and the pre-PCT is not for me but if you were to run it for like 10-12 weeks I could see a semblance of natural test having come back from the dead and then you would be primed for PCT.

well he said run the primo out 4 weeks.so i think he was saying to run the primo the hole cycle and 4 weeks out past every thing else???? could be wrong though.