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The greatest fighter of all time!

Biggest badass to ever live...

  • Bruce Lee

    Votes: 109 22.5%

  • Mike Tyson

    Votes: 41 8.5%

  • Muhhamed Ali

    Votes: 28 5.8%

  • Fedor Emelianenko

    Votes: 125 25.8%

  • Jigoro Kano (creator of judo)

    Votes: 5 1.0%

  • Royce Gracie

    Votes: 14 2.9%

  • Rickson Gracie

    Votes: 21 4.3%

  • Matt Hughes

    Votes: 13 2.7%

  • Bas Rutten

    Votes: 13 2.7%

  • Wanderlei Silva

    Votes: 14 2.9%

  • George Foreman

    Votes: 3 0.6%

  • Georges St. Pierre (future)

    Votes: 20 4.1%

  • Chuck Lidell

    Votes: 18 3.7%

  • Chuck Norris...

    Votes: 21 4.3%

  • other (explain who)

    Votes: 36 7.4%
  • Total voters
    485
Just backs up what I have to say. Those old fighters had heart and a raw toughness these new panzy creatine suckin chicken breast eating pretty boys can't comprehend.

not saying I can handle 3 hours of bare knuckle boxing but if you want to call someone the toughest fighter of all time.
 
I would go with Chuck Norris on this one. Only because Chuck Norris doesnt have elastic on his socks, he just thumb tacks them to his legs.
 
Anderson Silva, he may not be considered yet, but he will in time. He could have two belts right now if he wanted to. Middleweight and Light-heavy. He would beat forrest or rashad for sure.
 
thumper36 said:
Anderson Silva, he may not be considered yet, but he will in time. He could have two belts right now if he wanted to. Middleweight and Light-heavy. He would beat forrest or rashad for sure.
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I dont think A. Silva is in the top 5 in the 205 class. I would like to see him go there and fight some of the top 205's and see how well he does. That weight class is stacked! When he knocked out Irvin it was no big deal cause that dude wasnt in the top 15 LHW's. It would be interesting for sure.
 
if fedor was a shit talker more ppl would vote for him.. i always wondered why ppl flock to the trash talkers?
 
As if floyd mayweather isn't the best fighter that has ever lived. He's gone through several categories undefeated, never lost a single match, and retired.

He's now returned and a match between him and manny paquiao is inevitable.

But Mayweather is not just a king of boxing, but the god.

Cmon people. Learn a bit more about him.
 
Bruce Lee for gettin the whole ball rollin. Plus he was insanely ripped, quick, legit, and tough as shit!!! Took on everyone that challenged him too. Not to mention coming back from a broken back! In MMA I gotta go with Fedor. The guy has no emotion and can stay as calm as a summer breeze even when being slammed by Kevin The Monster Randalman. He's Multiple time Sambo Champ. Has unreal conditioning. Iron jaw, Cro Cop(love him too) and Mark hunt coudn't knock him out. Fugita came close, but that's it. He pounded the shit out of Nog, Twice! He has beaten Virtually all of the UFC Heavyweight champs. Last but not least, absolutely cunning in the ring and always finds a way to win. Anderson Silva is probably next up that way. Rampage is awesome cuz he's funny and he puts people through mats on a daily basis:)
 
Jigoro Kano. He is the creator of judo. I would scratch out all the gracies, even though they were the best/creators of BBJ they are no match for Judo.1* I don't know how well he would compare to the other fighters though.

I'd also have to choose Yip Man. These two are my favorite fighters, I doubt they are the strongest in all history. That would have to be the Mutsu, Mutsu Enmei Ryuu! :P

Kano, FTW! :P






1* Kimura vs Helio Gracie
 
ervisboy007 said:
Jigoro Kano. He is the creator of judo. I would scratch out all the gracies, even though they were the best/creators of BBJ they are no match for Judo.1* I don't know how well he would compare to the other fighters though.

I'd also have to choose Yip Man. These two are my favorite fighters, I doubt they are the strongest in all history. That would have to be the Mutsu, Mutsu Enmei Ryuu! :P

Kano, FTW! :P






1* Kimura vs Helio Gracie
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You've got to be shittin me on the Judo thing right?
 
People like Tyson shouldn't even be here. Most top mma guys would get him on the floor and pound him.
There is no ground game in boxing.
 
Ken Shamrock smashed Bas Rutten twice and left Royce Gracie a bloody and swollen mess in their 2nd fight. Why isn't he on the list if those 2 guys are?
 
the big show. the dude thats 7' tall and 400 #'s on mondy nights wwe.....one swing and your jaw is in row 3. may be tough to bring him down too!! hard to hit him in the face cause he's so tall.
any big guy on crack.. they dont feel a thing, and if you get them down, they'll bit you and eat you...some wacked out drugged up junkie on every corner in the usa. lot of bad dudes out there!!!!! go steal a big wino's bottle.. all your ab training and running will do 0 when he's biting on you and pulling your hair trying to get that 3.00 bottle of wine back.
 
Rikishi said:
Ken Shamrock smashed Bas Rutten twice and left Royce Gracie a bloody and swollen mess in their 2nd fight. Why isn't he on the list if those 2 guys are?
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Ken Was a Beasty Mother Back in the day! I guess that's why, he's just lost soo many fights in the last five years....maybe that tarnished it...
 
Wong Shun Leung..

Took Yip Man's wing chun teachings and applied them in many many streetfights (beimo fights), cut out a fair amount of the crap and taught what really worked, and he was a great teacher and had a sound fight philosophy..

Bruce Lee was special, but he would never have been anything without Wong's instruction. And the only reason he went to Wong was due to the man's monumental reputation. (unbeaten)

If anyone has seen the "Ip Man" film released in 2009, the second will be out this year, and i believe it will be featuring Wong (not the real man obviously, he died tragically 13 years ago) as Yip man's principle instructor. I'm looking forward to seeing if it does him justice. (I'm possibly biased, been training hard in WSL Wing Chun since I was a teen)
 
For those of you who say Chuck Liddell... you are completely clueless. Hell, Chuch Norris could have kicked Liddells ass in his prime.
 
Too many to choose from, so many good fighters. I'd say Tyson has gotta be top 3 with Ali... MMA not sure yet
 
Eh, Ali was a good boxer and probably the best, as was Tyson in his era i think, but you cannot compare them to Bruce Lee or Emelianenko, Hughes, etc or vice versa. Different sport and skills needed.
 
Manny Pacquiao,,, best boxer) ,,,,, Anderson Silva best pound for pound in MMA,,, if you disagree watch the Pacquiao Hatton fight. and the Silva Griffin fight,,, enough said.
 
I agree with the last post, MannY Pacquiao. You should watch now his fight with Margarito, who is the largest he has fought and winning his 8th another weight class division title that no one yet in the boxing industry has achieved. Mayweather even got lots of excuses on fighting him. He is really now the pound for pound fighter
 
I agree with the last post, MannY Pacquiao. You should watch now his fight with Margarito, who is the largest he has fought and winning his 8th another weight class division title that no one yet in the boxing industry has achieved. Mayweather even got lots of excuses on fighting him. He is really now the pound for pound fighter
 
Royce Gracie, because he took on all weight classes, all styles, one after another!

People obviously adjusted to his jiu jitsu style but at the time who would have put money on the smallest guy in the room with a gui on?
 
Chopzilla said:
Of all time: Royce Gracie
Current greatest fighter: Anderson Silva

Honorable mentions: GSP & BJ Penn
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I reckon Anderson Silva would have kicked Royce's butt, but only just. I'm a big fan of both guys but Anderson is something else. Pretty sure he would've beaten Sakuraba at that Pride Grand Prix where Gracie failed. Even though he was jacked on AAS Gracie couldn't win that fight.
 
Fedor is great but he lost to big foot and that guy is trash! If he would have dropped that belly and fought at 205 he would have been untouchable but would've should've he still lost to some mediocre fighters therefore hes not the best
 
Anyone considering BJJ or sambo famous fighters has probably no experience in real combat whatsoever. Most of what's illegal on the UFC beats easily any lock or ground work.
Anywhore, best fighter of all times: Bruce Lee. Fast as a lightning, and a genius.
 
Arvoisa said:
Anyone considering BJJ or sambo famous fighters has probably no experience in real combat whatsoever. Most of what's illegal on the UFC beats easily any lock or ground work.
Anywhore, best fighter of all times: Bruce Lee. Fast as a lightning, and a genius.
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You realize that Bruce Lee never actually fought, right?

He was nothing more than an excellent technician/martial artist, and an actor. He was not a fighter.

Also, he was like 140 pounds. Jose Aldo would destroy Bruce Lee.


Having said that, Anderson Silva is indisputably the most dominant fighter with the most impressive record considering the ways he finishes fights and against whom.

Fedor also carries that same mantle minus his last few fights. Everybody gets to the point that they have seen better days.


GSP is great, but he is too much of a pussy to risk a loss and doesn't have the ability to absolute destroy people and finish the fight.

If Jon Jones moves to Heavyweight and continues his dominance, which I think he will not be as successful at heavyweight, he could become the greatest fighter.

For now, Anderson Silva is definitely "the best" fighter the world has ever seen.
 
Arvoisa said:
Anyone considering BJJ or sambo famous fighters has probably no experience in real combat whatsoever. Most of what's illegal on the UFC beats easily any lock or ground work.
Anywhore, best fighter of all times: Bruce Lee. Fast as a lightning, and a genius.
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It's pretty funny, sad, and pathetic that people still say stuff like this as if they have a clue. First off..The UFC evolved from decades of Vale Tudo/NHB fighting. People like this guy above, and many in this thread, seem to think that any Dungeons and Dragons nerd can just master secret ninja moves to defeat the world, without having any understanding of the positioning involved in the top MMA grappling and striking styles. The guys you see in the UFC are the top fighters in the world period. The TMA guys had decades to prove that their styles were the best, and guess what? The ones that proved it now make up MMA. Anyone that thinks that UFC guys are limited to the unified rules, outside of the cage need to wake up. Alternatively you could just bring your favorite ninja master to any MMA gym and ask for a NHB gym challenge. Please report back here with the results!
 
Yeah I gotta agree with that.



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Roy Jones Junior for stand up hands down. I've never seen any evidence Bruce Lee would stand a chance in a non coriographed fight. Although he was way ahead of his time in training and he was every bit as fast a Roy Jones. Size does matter so I'm saying for his size. There's no way a guy like Roy or Bruce in their prime would ever be able to take down a Tyson even if their technical skills were way better.
 
I come from a boxing enviroment. My father was a boxer and he trained my brother and I to box at an early age; I boxed for a long time. Anyway, Ali in his "prime" is hands down the greatest fighter ever for the express reason his opponents had to virtually kill him to beat him. Anyone who was/is trained to fight in any discipline knows at the end of the day whoever can take the most punishment and whoever hits the hardest is the baddest mofo! Ali! Ali! Ali!...
 
dred757 said:
Mike Tyson in his prime!!! Hands down!

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You have gone mad. When he was smashing people the majority of them were bums. Every good fighter he fought kicked his ass. I'm a pugilist specialist; Tyson was a great puncher but not a great boxer at all.. Lennox Lewis did him so dirty that Tyson declined a rematch. I forgot about Lennox Lewis; he quite possibly could be the best fighter ever...
 
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Tough one, Anderson Silva/Jon Jones for MMA (Jon Jones will be the clear winner over the coming years) and Tyson (in his prime) or Mayweather. Early Tysons footwork and combos were awesome, but later in his career he just made a mess of things.
 
I dunno about Bruce Lee never fighting, but I was told by some wing tsun instructors that he was a white belt pretty much when he first began training. He never trained long enough to learn the second form stuff. So any gong fu, 1 inch punch , iron palm, explosive power demonstration he did were all BS

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Bruce lee created "ji kun do" by studying all fighting styles.. i'm pretty sure he would put up a fight.

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Bruce lee created "ji kun do" by studying all fighting styles.. i'm pretty sure he would put up a fight.

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Except for he never fought in a real fight in professional competition, plus he weighed like 140 lbs. He would be fighting at Bantamweight in the UFC.

Not knocking him, he's a Martial Arts legend and he did have legitimate topnotch skill, but to say he was the best fighter in the world is completely unfounded. Chuck Norris atleast legitimately competed and won in high profile competition.


Doesn't really matter though because Anderson Silva IMO has proven himself to be legitimately ranked #1 of all time.
 
You are forgetting ufc and boxing are sports and sanctioned. I'm sure there are many in this world legends and masters if you must that would crush them but it wouldn't be a match that consisted of many rules I'm sure...
 
Jefferyaron said:
You are forgetting ufc and boxing are sports and sanctioned. I'm sure there are many in this world legends and masters if you must that would crush them but it wouldn't be a match that consisted of many rules I'm sure...
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What you are not forgetting, because you obviously don't know, is that UFC is the evolution of NHB/Vale Tudo. UFC started with very limited rules and there were thousands of challenge matches before then where these TMA guys had plenty of chances to showcase these uber bad ass secret moves that all the dungeons and dragons nerds dream about today. That never happened. Sorry to shit on your fantasy.
 
Ruca said:
What you are not forgetting, because you obviously don't know, is that UFC is the evolution of NHB/Vale Tudo. UFC started with very limited rules and there were thousands of challenge matches before then where these TMA guys had plenty of chances to showcase these uber bad ass secret moves that all the dungeons and dragons nerds dream about today. That never happened. Sorry to shit on your fantasy.
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Alrighty smarty pants :)
 
Boxing - Sugar Ray Robinson I'd say. You could make arguments for Ali, the light-weight Roberto Duran and possibly Willie Pep.
MMA - hard to call with only 20 years officially in the books but I'd say Silva for now. I think Jones will probably surpass him at some point.
Thai - Samart Payakaroon.
 
Jefferyaron said:
Alrighty smarty pants :)
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Ok ok..Respect for your good natured response, and in all seriousness you should look up some old vale tudo stuff. Also if you don't know Helio Gracie's history, it will be some interesting reading for you.
Also..Look up the roots of the UFC. It was actually started by the Gracie's to showcase BJJ. The evolution has brought it well beyond that, but all cool history.
 
Ruca said:
What you are not forgetting, because you obviously don't know, is that UFC is the evolution of NHB/Vale Tudo. UFC started with very limited rules and there were thousands of challenge matches before then where these TMA guys had plenty of chances to showcase these uber bad ass secret moves that all the dungeons and dragons nerds dream about today. That never happened. Sorry to shit on your fantasy.
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They still had rules, rings, etc. No eye gouging, no biting. Keith Hackney was TMA with some street tough in him and he won. It's not like it was as open and shut as you say. A lot of wrestlers did well back in the VT days. Today's BJJ work much more on dealing with takedowns if they are training for MMA. Back then they just assumed they'd get the TD. And they were right, except against wrestlers. But the wrestlers had no subs.

If you go by the definition of a martial art, Muay Thai is a martial art, and its proven very effective.
 
And the UFC of today, is most definitely a sport. It's less an "evolution" than a "commercialization".

Still fun to watch, don't get me wrong. And as the Brazilians always say they have a lot of "tough guys". Very good athletes.
 
I'd go for Royce Gracie just for the fact that he beats guys that are significantly bigger than him. Just my personal choice though.
 
bige said:
They still had rules, rings, etc. No eye gouging, no biting. Keith Hackney was TMA with some street tough in him and he won. It's not like it was as open and shut as you say. A lot of wrestlers did well back in the VT days. Today's BJJ work much more on dealing with takedowns if they are training for MMA. Back then they just assumed they'd get the TD. And they were right, except against wrestlers. But the wrestlers had no subs.

If you go by the definition of a martial art, Muay Thai is a martial art, and its proven very effective.
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Not sure what your point it? My post that you quoted was in response to some guy saying that there are tons of TMA masters out there that would kill the UFC guys (or something like that). Is your point that you believe that as well?

Yes Muay Thai is a martial art, and so is BJJ, wrestling..etc...etc...

And you stated the early UFC rules, but I stated that there were lots of NHB fights long before the UFC ever existed. Maybe you don't know what NHB stands for?
 
Wow, over a decade later...

people, if you're GOING to piss Wootoom off and Raise the Thread (see what I did there?) At least read it. ALL of it. then you can learn why:

Bruce Lee wasn't great.
The Gracies ARE traditional MA. They and Kieth Hackney won early UFCs. therefore Traditional, Gi/Obi trained MA owned the first ten UFCs.
Boxers were limited by their era, not their abilities. they could have trained MMA today, IOW.

and other fun stuff!

it's been one he'll of a ride, so thanks - even to the haters!
 
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