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instant.muscle
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Isn't that the guy from Quest who gives up the Golden Dragon so Dobbs can go free? and then he beats the big mongolian dickhead? jean claude van dame! all the way lolresqguy said:
instant.muscle
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U honestly think rickson gracie is the best fighter off all time? what r u smoking?RRRipped said:
instant.muscle
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Think i'd pick Mike Tyson in a bar over tank abbots fat ass, i think ricardo arona wh ois about 50 pounds heavier murdered tank with a punchRRRipped said:HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Is that a joke? Me and my dad always joke about whenever theres some spare retard in the ufc who needs to fight they throw him to tank. Tank sucks balls, he gets all the new ufc comers and retards. HAHAHA
instant.muscle
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Shogun is the same age as pierre if not younger and would crush himmarkmark said:
instant.muscle
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Chuck fucking blows, i've always said itMicker said:
instant.muscle
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All the gracies suck my manpalehorse51 said:
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looking to lean said:
gjohnson5
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The reason why I'm making the comments because you have not differentiated between Jean Claude van Damme and the real Frank Dux...
Alot of people need to stop spamming this thread...
Alot of people need to stop spamming this thread...
resqguy said:Again...relax. I'm not going to get into an e-fight with you over my Frank Dux comment. Really bro..it's ok.
resqguy
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gjohnson5 said:
You're ok? That's cute. You're clearly irritated over something as trivial as an internet forum. If you don't like my posts, skip over them. Or better yet, put me on ignore. I didn't write anything offensive or racially insensitive, so why waste your time commenting? I'll tell you why...because you're NOT ok. I wrote "Frank Dux." It's crystal fucking clear. So...use your useless "Chairman Of The Board" powers and black me out for a while if it makes you feel better. It'll give you a chance to get your money's worth for that ridiculous title, Chairman. I'm out.
gjohnson5
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I'm irritated by idiots on the internet forum , not the forum itself. Then they keep going on and on and on even after they say have a nice weekend.
Just take your energizer bunny BS and your 1st grade humor back to chat...
Not sure what about that you misunderstand
Just take your energizer bunny BS and your 1st grade humor back to chat...
Not sure what about that you misunderstand
resqguy said:You're ok? That's cute. You're clearly irritated over something as trivial as an internet forum. If you don't like my posts, skip over them. Or better yet, put me on ignore. I didn't write anything offensive or racially insensitive, so why waste your time commenting? I'll tell you why...because you're NOT ok. I wrote "Frank Dux." It's crystal fucking clear. So...use your useless "Chairman Of The Board" powers and black me out for a while if it makes you feel better. It'll give you a chance to get your money's worth for that ridiculous title, Chairman. I'm out.
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gjohnson5 said:I'm irritated by idiots on the internet forum , not the forum itself. Then they keep going on and on and on even after they say have a nice weekend.
Just take your energizer bunny BS and your 1st grade humor back to chat...
Not sure what about that you misunderstand
I misunderstood nothing. You read "Frank Dux" but interpreted it to be "Jean Claude Van Damme."
I'm tired of talking to you. You win....back to C&C....
instant.muscle
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frank dux does have the fastest knockout ever recorded at one point, and his kick was timed at like 90 mph
JoeBlackSpade
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Pound for pound:
Mike Zambidis
Mike Zambidis
tiredofshit
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mr chuck
chazk
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ken shamrock
just becuase he was a pioneer for the sport
He also was not afraid to get inpeoples faces.
Only problem was he was about 10 years to early in the sport and around 40 when he was popular.
had he been in his prime right now in 2007 I think he would have been even more popular
just becuase he was a pioneer for the sport
He also was not afraid to get inpeoples faces.
Only problem was he was about 10 years to early in the sport and around 40 when he was popular.
had he been in his prime right now in 2007 I think he would have been even more popular
Bruce Lee, hands down
BIGBUCK$
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THE BADDEST MAN ON THE PLANET!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvZ2roRDPYU
IRON MIKE BROOKLYN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvZ2roRDPYU
IRON MIKE BROOKLYN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hookemcats
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I like Silvas chances in an all out street fight as I like his killer always coming forward and devistating clinch......... I think in a street fight hed be relentless and wouldnt give you time to breath............ Plus he's got an intimidating demeanor..........nothing like having a mental advantage before the fight even starts........
Anyone ever hear of or see this guy in action? Does greatness include the ability to shun adversity? http://www.kmaynard.com/index.html
U GOT YOUR WISH BRO!goal200 said:
abs of steel
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georges st pierre. he is unreal!!
millhouse340
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Fedor probably, but there is some guy in some small town tougher.
I have much respect for Bruce Lee and his skills/knowledge, but he was voted on way to many times...imo
Everyday may come with a new winner. That list is full of guys who have a punchers chance. There are mnay tough cats missing as well. It just can't be answered.
I have much respect for Bruce Lee and his skills/knowledge, but he was voted on way to many times...imo
Everyday may come with a new winner. That list is full of guys who have a punchers chance. There are mnay tough cats missing as well. It just can't be answered.
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millhouse340 said:
I have totally seen people like this. nobody's on the international or even national scene, but are out of control.
in the ring, rules prevent most wacko's from being in control. rules remove the edge of those who dont play fair.
hard call, but its true that not only those who are known have the power to kick ass.
canadianhitman
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LOL at all the clowns that voted for Bruce Lee. The bitch wasn't shit...friggin movie actor. He's right up there with Steven Segal and Jean Claude Van Damme for credible fighting ability.
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canadianhitman said:
Although I agree Bruce shouldn't be on list, as I said on my post above...i would hardly go where you did about him. He was a martial artist unlike Segal and others. He was actually a Mixed Martial Artist. He took styles and used techniques from each in a time that was considered a no no. Was he the toughest ever? Hell no, but he was an asset to Martial arts and the opening of minds amongst it. He used his own moves in the movies. Watch Game of Death and you'll se a Armbar attempt,Sie Choke,Thai Clinch, etc. The skills we use today. He even used alot of Western Boxing. Was he a badass fighter....who knows? He was a streetfighter, so he put it on the line. I would give the cat some respect though. I don't know how you couldn't.
RearNaked
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From the given options, everyone hypothetically in their prime, and I believe the question was 'street fight', I'd absolutely have to go with Bas Rutten. 7 votes!!! hahaaha. The Lethal Self Defense vids are the greatest. I'll try to post up a link if I can find one. I truly admire this guys style. The Bas Rutten System, incorprates a lot of Krav Maga, good shit for the streets.
JoeBlackSpade
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Rearnaked, you're right.
I forgot about Rutten. He was the baddest mofo around.
I listed Mike Zambidis- pound for pound, but in a no rules street fight, its Bas Rutten all the way!
I forgot about Rutten. He was the baddest mofo around.
I listed Mike Zambidis- pound for pound, but in a no rules street fight, its Bas Rutten all the way!
Marciano...only one of the bumch undefeated but not as important as this: He is in a differnt league because he did not have the capabilty to tire, especially given that he would attack every second of every round. Tyson on steriods and blood doping,plus much more. I`ve researched him and all his fights.
It is not humanly possible to continue at his pase without loss of strength or fatigue.
He trained on steak juice...spitt out the steak because he didn`t want to gain weight, just increase power. He has that in abunadnce too. Tendon strength to the extreme. I`ve written letters to many who knew him because I feel he was on some kind of substances for sure. Just watch and watch his fights. He is too scary. Only way to beat him is knock him out in the first round i feel or you will be dead later.
He had secrets to this...not just training because that cannot give you what he had. Somedody chemically enhanced him. Do you think that he had the knowledge of steak juice consumption on his own? He was not a scientist.
It is not humanly possible to continue at his pase without loss of strength or fatigue.
He trained on steak juice...spitt out the steak because he didn`t want to gain weight, just increase power. He has that in abunadnce too. Tendon strength to the extreme. I`ve written letters to many who knew him because I feel he was on some kind of substances for sure. Just watch and watch his fights. He is too scary. Only way to beat him is knock him out in the first round i feel or you will be dead later.
He had secrets to this...not just training because that cannot give you what he had. Somedody chemically enhanced him. Do you think that he had the knowledge of steak juice consumption on his own? He was not a scientist.
Djimbe
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WELL ... Thats weird Reasoning , but I DO feel that certain Boxers are Overlooked because in their time only Boxing was really Prevelant . Guys like Marciano , Dempsey , Foreman and Ali would have made AMAZING MMA fighters ! Each has showed the Wits , skills , strategem and Heart to endure in ANY Ruleset had said Ruleset been the one they trained in . All have also taken OVER 100 challengers . I think that the History of Boxing is forgotten too often , and ppl write these men off because the TIMES only ALLOWED them to train to fight with their Fists . I think we forget that MMA is still Illegal in my state TODAY , and we blame this on the Fighters of the era , and not the laws and post victorian hogwash that they were restricted to . Had they been allowed a ground game they would have been forced to train Judo , etc .
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America had shootwrestlers during the first half of the 20th century, Karl Gotch probably the most famous. I wonder what is different about modern times that is allowing a similar sport such as MMA thrive where shootwrestling never seemed to make it.
getpumpedup2
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mike zambidis hes a badass check him out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUcinq1xxes
This is a bs question. You cannot compare bruce lee to Mike Tyson or to half of these fighters. Everything is different.
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Saintinistic
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this thread is like the ultimate chain letter.
Guys, take the personal vendettas to e-mail or Chat and Conversation please.
*The_West*
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word, gsp takes athleticism to another level. he just gets better and better. such a humble, classy guy aswellGordz24 said:
The most athletic guy I've seen in MMA is probably Kevin Randleman or maybe Mitsuhiro Ishida. GSP is certainly up there with the best though.
Fedor is one bad mofo. Still have to be fascinated by Bruce Lee despite the fact I personally never wittiness a verity of street fight as well in the ring matches on any of his documentary's. More then likely if Bruce Lee fought some in his weight class he would do well, but against Fedor he would have his ass handed to him... Darth Fedor is my vote !!!!!
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ITCHYscratchy
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Rocky Marciano deserves a mention.
gjohnson5 said:
Silva is awesome, but I still think p4p, GSP is one heck of a contender for the best fighter in the world!!
Sorry Alcatraz, I know you are gonna hate this, but that knee last night represented Hawaii so fiercely, I think now with the rededication, he's gonna steal GSP's title if GSP makes it past Jon Fitch... GSP is so kind, respectful, technically proficient, yet I have no love for him... don't know why, just don't like the dude, don't hate him like Matt Hughes... but digressing, Pride of Hilo is gonna take back 170 title...the_alcatraz said:
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Bruce Lee
Come on now.
Come on now.
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Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Well , lets look at the times when the REAL "hookers" started to vanish ... the 50's - basically the era of american Victorianism . The "Show" became popular and those with the "Go" - and the cauliflour (sp ?) ears and faces for Radio went with them - it was on to the "Gorgeous George's" and "Nature Boy's" of the time , and White Hat Vs. Black Hat simplicity of the Cold War era was taking hold , as was the "Dumbening Of America" as I coin it . No one was looking for Intricate Holds and skilled practitioners , they wanted "Finishing Moves" and pretty costumes . we were left with the father of what became the WWF era .
southpaw447
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I don't see how bruce lee is dominating the polls. 95% of MMA fighters today would kill him
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are you insane?
Bruce Lee's speed cannot be matched...he will knock out today's MMA fighters and they wouldn't know what hit him....that skinny fuck used to do biceps curls with his balcony....lol
Have you seen his 1-inch punch?
southpaw447
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You must not know very much about fighting.
Bruce Lee would get taken down and submitted with ease.
Being able to Bicep Curl has no use in fighting, so you fail there.
Bruce Lee would get taken down and submitted with ease.
Being able to Bicep Curl has no use in fighting, so you fail there.
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Miguel Torres vs. a Prime Bruce Lee would be interesting, but again, todays MMA requires a very well rounded skill set
southpaw447 said:
I've fought for most of my life and I spend time in prison for fighting underground...so I think I know a little about fighting....having incredible feats of strength has a lot to do with fighting....Iron Mike Tyson, George Foreman, Kimbo Slice (questionable? but he's a fighter) Silva, and I could go on and name a million other fighters who's primary advantage is brute strength....offcourse there is technique, determination, hard work, skill, dexterity, focus, stamina, and experience....but if you think that strength has nothing to do with it, then you're an idiot.
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It's quite convenient for you to take my post out of context.
Strength does play a part, but being able to curl whatever is irrelevant.
Core Strength is what is important.
George Foremen got his strength from Chopping Wood for hours on end. Todays fighters mimic this same technique by Sledgehammering Tractor Tires.
Certain Isometric Exercises are beneficial to MMA but most of it relies on Compound Movements, Core Strength, Explosiveness, Plyo's, Calisthenics, etc. Not Bicep Curls
You could even look at Anderson Silva who looks like he's never even been to the gym and touched a dumbell or straightbar probably developed his Clinch Strength from practicing Muay Thai and perfecting his technique.
Strength does play a part, but being able to curl whatever is irrelevant.
Core Strength is what is important.
George Foremen got his strength from Chopping Wood for hours on end. Todays fighters mimic this same technique by Sledgehammering Tractor Tires.
Certain Isometric Exercises are beneficial to MMA but most of it relies on Compound Movements, Core Strength, Explosiveness, Plyo's, Calisthenics, etc. Not Bicep Curls
You could even look at Anderson Silva who looks like he's never even been to the gym and touched a dumbell or straightbar probably developed his Clinch Strength from practicing Muay Thai and perfecting his technique.
I practiced Muay Tai for 11 and a half years. Our couch forced us to do some form of weight lifting....
Ne-ways back on topic....you don't think Bruce Lee got the skills to beat todays fighters?
I think today's fighters wouldn't see it coming if they fought Bruce Lee....he would tear them to pieces....granted some of them can dance in the ring, but the guy was a frickin legend dude...he had awesome skills....his speed was unmatched...
Ne-ways back on topic....you don't think Bruce Lee got the skills to beat todays fighters?
I think today's fighters wouldn't see it coming if they fought Bruce Lee....he would tear them to pieces....granted some of them can dance in the ring, but the guy was a frickin legend dude...he had awesome skills....his speed was unmatched...
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I train at The WAT in Manhattan under Kru Phil Nurse. I've been doing it for around 4 years now.....
This will become an endless debate about Lee vs. Modern MMA. I can just say styles make fights, everyone has a kryptonite.
I think some MMA fighter or even K-1 fighters could give Bruce Lee a lot of problems
This will become an endless debate about Lee vs. Modern MMA. I can just say styles make fights, everyone has a kryptonite.
I think some MMA fighter or even K-1 fighters could give Bruce Lee a lot of problems
I guess we'll never know...
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great khali
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gjohnson5 said:
What's interesting in a very sad sort of way is that Bruce Lee has as many votes as he does...
Bruce Lee had all those votes? Are you shitting me? Bruce Lee's role on promoting martial arts is undeniable, but best fighter? Hughes is a good one (lucky sometimes), Rick Franklin not bad (but he thinks too much) and lacks the agressiveness to beat a guy like Anderson Silva. Rampage is good (but he is there for the adrenaline) Randy Couture is one of the best and my great respects go to him, he knows all about it, training, diet, conditioning and he knows what he can not do (he doesn't have nothing else to prove) Royce Gracie and Ken Shamrock are pioneers but now that everybody knows the secret... Chuck is a funny guy, I like him he just loves to kick ass period. Dan Henderson and Wanderlei curitibano are very good, Saint Pierre will be great, Anderson Silva tough mofo nr 2 for sure but for now Fedor is the heartless killer best of all times undisputedly nr 1, Pride Ufc anytime anyplace.canadianhitman said:
Part of the ongoing controversy with this thread is rooted in the fact that nobody bothers to define the terms of the argument. What exactly is meant by the term "fighter"? Is a fighter a competitor in a certain sport? Is a fighter a guy that can kick your ass in a street fight? How are you guys defining "greatest"? Does promoting a sport contribute to "greeatness"? Is it irrelevant?
From my perspective Bruce Lee was not a fighter. He neither actively competed in full contact based events, nor did he have a rep for kicking people's asses in the street. He was an actor with lots of flashy and impractical techniques.
Bruce Lee however was great. He was and still is a great vehicle for attracting people to combat sports and transcended his role as a movie actor in that sense.
From my perspective Bruce Lee was not a fighter. He neither actively competed in full contact based events, nor did he have a rep for kicking people's asses in the street. He was an actor with lots of flashy and impractical techniques.
Bruce Lee however was great. He was and still is a great vehicle for attracting people to combat sports and transcended his role as a movie actor in that sense.
-Ariel- said:Sorry Alcatraz, I know you are gonna hate this, but that knee last night represented Hawaii so fiercely, I think now with the rededication, he's gonna steal GSP's title if GSP makes it past Jon Fitch... GSP is so kind, respectful, technically proficient, yet I have no love for him... don't know why, just don't like the dude, don't hate him like Matt Hughes... but digressing, Pride of Hilo is gonna take back 170 title...
care to change your mind bro? lol
Hes a great martial artist. THE best in my books..
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Silva got beat by Ortiz on points in UFC. However, they follow the ten point rule, unlike Pride where fighters are rewarded and encouraged to fight for a win (the Gracie Sakuraba fight comes to mind). Ortiz was a hair away from getting knocked out.
My vote is for Silva also. His overall dominance, longevity, and the intensity of his style is incredible. ANyone who is interested should see the training video of him on youtube where he runs a long session with his nose sealed closed and a snorkle in his mouth to restrict breathing and thus increasing lung capacity.
That said, MMA is a style-oriented sport and some people match up differently to others. Silva's crushing KO's of Jackson were followed by a loss to Liddell (who lost to Jackson himself). Anyone of these top guys can deliver, the reason Silva stands out to me is his incredible win streak in Pride where he beat some of the greatest fighters in the world.
rediculus
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Joo Bang Lee or Possibly Eric Lee.
Best fighters in the world fight to kill Not choke you until your tap out.
Art of War is the art of winning and the truest fighters don't compete in glory fights. Bruce Lee would rip todays MMA fighters apart. Lb for lb he is still considered one of the strongest men to ever live. From what I have read that is. He was benching well over 200 lbs at 135 lbs. Chuck Norrise.. Round house clocked at over 100 MPH to my understanding. Bruce Lee's Punch in a few movies required they increase the speed of the film to catch his fist moving. Later he just slowed down his punch when they were filming. Fast hands...how does that help in a fight? speed increases impact by a multiple. If you take a bullet cut the weight in half and double the speed the energy is increased 4x. Ergo why those skinny guys with boney knuckles hurt like hell when they punch you.
Oh and these guys. Were smashing peoples sturnum's au natural. Intense training. Life long dedication that MMA and UFC and Pride fighting does not allow for. Why? because you live your fighting style that way your body falls apart. It cannot maintain.
My vote is also ( I need to look him up) in the 20s there was an Irish or Scottish guy 230 bare fist fight wins. Heavyweight champ undefeated if I remember. I will google it and see if I can find his name.
Best fighters in the world fight to kill Not choke you until your tap out.
Art of War is the art of winning and the truest fighters don't compete in glory fights. Bruce Lee would rip todays MMA fighters apart. Lb for lb he is still considered one of the strongest men to ever live. From what I have read that is. He was benching well over 200 lbs at 135 lbs. Chuck Norrise.. Round house clocked at over 100 MPH to my understanding. Bruce Lee's Punch in a few movies required they increase the speed of the film to catch his fist moving. Later he just slowed down his punch when they were filming. Fast hands...how does that help in a fight? speed increases impact by a multiple. If you take a bullet cut the weight in half and double the speed the energy is increased 4x. Ergo why those skinny guys with boney knuckles hurt like hell when they punch you.
Oh and these guys. Were smashing peoples sturnum's au natural. Intense training. Life long dedication that MMA and UFC and Pride fighting does not allow for. Why? because you live your fighting style that way your body falls apart. It cannot maintain.
My vote is also ( I need to look him up) in the 20s there was an Irish or Scottish guy 230 bare fist fight wins. Heavyweight champ undefeated if I remember. I will google it and see if I can find his name.
rediculus
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Hal Bagwell 180 fights 175 wins 2 draws and 3 no decision.
This is before gloves were as soft as they are now.
And Lastly sorry to get back to this thread so late..John L Sullivan
shake the hand that shook the world!!
His fights lasted 2 and 3 hours.
You wanna throw tito in the ring for 3 hours and see what happens bare knuckle?
This is before gloves were as soft as they are now.
And Lastly sorry to get back to this thread so late..John L Sullivan
shake the hand that shook the world!!
His fights lasted 2 and 3 hours.
You wanna throw tito in the ring for 3 hours and see what happens bare knuckle?
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YouTube - Mike Tyson Knocks out Michael Johnson
Dont think tyson is the tuffest guy on this list but imagine taking that punch bare knuckle....gonna cause some fucking damage...
Dont think tyson is the tuffest guy on this list but imagine taking that punch bare knuckle....gonna cause some fucking damage...
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