the greatest armies in the world

[foreigngirl]

no one fought for jugoslavia in any war, ever. that jugoslavia that capitulated to hitler was a forced confederration the treaty of versaille was where it all happened. serbia backed by its old friends dating to the times of nobility was awarded the helm. croatia and slovenia and herceg bosna fought valiantly with the germans and as the treaty of versaille was intended to do to all those alligned with germany, they were punished.

partisans were not a force untill allied air drops and support in every which way was given by the british and the americans. partisans were made up in the early periods of the war almost exclusivly of serbs that were upset at the retribution directed to them by slovenians, croats of catholic and muslim faith. with more and more support of the allies in the region, and with the allocation of the croatian coast to the itallians alot of people realized that the best bet to live through everything was to join the partizans.

the partizans were a bunch of bush dwellers, never without the help of the allies would they have stood up to the ustase. i have never seen one historical source to say different .

stalin did not leave the "jugoslavs" to themselves, the split between stalin and tito happened in 1948, when jugoslavia was kicked out of the cominform, well after the end of ww2. i hate tito with a passion, but one thing i admire is he wasnt stalins bitch like the rest of communist occupied europe .

I never understood why the Croats always hated Tito. Wasnt he one of your people? Or maybe the rumors about him not being Croatian are true?

Anyways, I was born and raised in Tito's Yugoslavia and it was great! People had jobs, good pay, people could buy cars and condos and build houses without any financial problems; our passport was just as the US one - we could go anywhere in the world without visas required; our army was the 7th world power; our health system was free etc. He did send people at Goli Otok, that was his dark side, but the rest of us lived a life that was not existing even in USA.

Now, I AM a little bitter at him. Macedonian soldiers at WWII wanted to go to the Southern Front, to liberate the part of our country that was given to Greece after the Balkan Wars and they were not allowed to by Tito. They were sent to the Srem Front instead. After the war was done, more cover ups were made too. Macedonia was not suppose to stay in Yugoslavia, nobody helped us get our parts from Greece and Bulgaria and we were forever known as Titos creation, which hurts a lot. Our ancestral connections with ancient macedonians were erased, because the history books were made the way to teach us that all of us in Yugoslavia were Slavic people - Southern Slavic Yugoslavians.....c'mon....

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

I never understood why the Croats always hated Tito. Wasnt he one of your people? Or maybe the rumors about him not being Croatian are true?

Anyways, I was born and raised in Tito's Yugoslavia and it was great! People had jobs, good pay, people could buy cars and condos and build houses without any financial problems; our passport was just as the US one - we could go anywhere in the world without visas required; our army was the 7th world power; our health system was free etc. He did send people at Goli Otok, that was his dark side, but the rest of us lived a life that was not existing even in USA.

Now, I AM a little bitter at him. Macedonian soldiers at WWII wanted to go to the Southern Front, to liberate the part of our country that was given to Greece after the Balkan Wars and they were not allowed to by Tito. They were sent to the Srem Front instead. After the war was done, more cover ups were made too. Macedonia was not suppose to stay in Yugoslavia, nobody helped us get our parts from Greece and Bulgaria and we were forever known as Titos creation, which hurts a lot. Our ancestral connections with ancient macedonians were erased, because the history books were made the way to teach us that all of us in Yugoslavia were Slavic people - Southern Slavic Yugoslavians.....c'mon....

Yeah truth takes second place to politically correctness.
"...Buh buh but in 9th grade history class I lear..."

 

[foreigngirl]

Yeah truth takes second place to politically correctness.
"...Buh buh but in 9th grade history class I lear..."

its always like that. And go now and try to convince the macedonians that were raised like that and studied "Tito's" history that it wasnt so.

You would expect that history books for schools are not suppose to be written with a certain point of view, but them too are flawed cuz at the end even the ones that wrote them are human

 

[Spartacus]

90% of americans can't even find the "balkans" on the map

 

[javaguru]

90% of americans can't even find the "balkans" on the map

In high school, there were three kids in my American History class that missed finding the US on a world map.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Mosy guys would like to lead this army.




Except for javaguru.

 

[Testosterone boy]

 

[Testosterone boy]

These are warriors to fight for.

 

[Spartacus]

If I'm gonna get my balls blown off for a word, my word is poontang

 

[Spartacus]