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javaguru said:
Mussolini was to Hitler as that idiot friend we always have to bail out of trouble is to us.


Only they're dictators, which would make a funny comedy sketch.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
The word "ambitious" comes to mind.

Would've torn communism a new one. Hell, it might've eventually ended it, from a governmental standpoint at least.
it's popular to call Hitler a dumbass for invading the USSR

but I disagree due to 3 major points

point one
in world war one the germans embarrassed the russians and pushed them around and stomped their ass

point two
when the soviets invaded Finland in 1940 they were again embarrassed with outnumbered and out-equiped Finns again stomping the superior soviets

point three
the germans and their blitzkrieg had excelled thus far in the war
Poland put up a good fight,but succumbed in a month

france with the help of the BEF fell in 6 weeks
but the battle of france was over in a month

the germans wiped out yugoslavia in 2 weeks
greece fell relatively easily too

so really Hitler had plenty of reasons to believe he could topple communist USSR in a two season campaign

not to mention his whole reason for starting the war was to expand Germany east and wipe out the bolsheviks/communists

it was a pan-european crusade against communism
with 1-2 million foreign volunteers joining the cause
 
Spartacus said:
it's popular to call Hitler a dumbass for invading the USSR

but I disagree due to 3 major points

point one
in world war one the germans embarrassed the russians and pushed them around and stomped their ass

point two
when the soviets invaded Finland in 1940 they were again embarrassed with outnumbered and out-equiped Finns again stomping the superior soviets

point three
the germans and their blitzkrieg had excelled thus far in the war
Poland put up a good fight,but succumbed in a month

france with the help of the BEF fell in 6 weeks
but the battle of france was over in a month

the germans wiped out yugoslavia in 2 weeks
greece fell relatively easily too

so really Hitler had plenty of reasons to believe he could topple communist USSR in a two season campaign

not to mention his whole reason for starting the war was to expand Germany east and wipe out the bolsheviks/communists

it was a pan-european crusade against communism
with 1-2 million foreign volunteers joining the cause


Sadly to 99% of the world he was just an evil jew-hater. These same people probably fail to realize how many jews were also commies.
 
javaguru said:
Reading/regurgitating and analyzing are different. I had to make a presentation,in a graduate level only class in arguably the best military history program of the time as an undergrad.This presentation was based on the multiple works I read. I recited "The Prince" in high school for my advanced history class and debunked it back then. His treatment of mercenaries is contradictory of real world results, they often performed better than resident conscripts. On the other hand, Clausewitz does define the western way of war. Go stick your dick up your ass. Don't fuck with me on military history or I'll make you my prison bitch......without lube.[/QUOTE]

You are pretty proud of studying history for reasons unknown to many.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
Sadly to 99% of the world he was just an evil jew-hater. These same people probably fail to realize how many jews were also commies.

why is it sad though?
if hitler wasn't so anti-semtic i think his other accomplishiments would looked at in a different light...
 
Gambino said:
why is it sad though?
if hitler wasn't so anti-semtic i think his other accomplishiments would looked at in a different light...
It wasn't just anti-semetism. He was bent on world domination. He admitted that he would never quit until he ruled the world. So, he had Germany on a course for destruction from day one.
 
heatherrae said:
It wasn't just anti-semetism. He was bent on world domination. He admitted that he would never quit until he ruled the world. So, he had Germany on a course for destruction from day one.

def overreaching and logistically impossible
an euro empire would've been hard enough to keep together
imagine all the rebellions you'd have over the yrs
but the german way of life, perscribed by hitler, wouldn't have been all death and destruction...he never intended to wipe out the french or brit peeps all together...they would've been incorporated into the reich.
as far as being conuquered goes, as long as you weren't jew/gypsy/slav/pole/etc...greater germany could've been a great society (hypothetical, but of course)
 
Gambino said:
def overreaching and logistically impossible
an euro empire would've been hard enough to keep together
imagine all the rebellions you'd have over the yrs
but the german way of life, perscribed by hitler, wouldn't have been all death and destruction...he never intended to wipe out the french or brit peeps all together...they would've been incorporated into the reich.
as far as being conuquered goes, as long as you weren't jew/gypsy/slav/pole/etc...greater germany could've been a great society (hypothetical, but of course)
Actually, he did intend to wipe them out altogether. He came out with a memoir after Mein Kampf [sp?] in which he clearly stated that he wanted to dominate Europe and then take on America. He stated that he believed that Americans were even genetically superior to the Germans because they were the brightest, most adventurous, and physically superior of all who came over here. He said that he wanted to do it right away before America became even more strong.

He held off from publishing the book for obvious reasons. He didn't want everyone in the world to know that his plan was so far reaching. He wanted the element of surprise.

Now, the book has been uncovered and discussed quite a bit as of late. Sorry that I can't recall the title. I saw it on the history channel.
 
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