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solidspine
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I wish my ex girl friend would disappear.
Raptorex
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redguru said:
We have gone this way since the late 60s and it is steadily progressing, the internal battle in the US between the secular progressives and the neo-cons will bring us down.
I think it will be after we are gone, however it is likely that those of us that follow these things will watch it before our eyes.
Raptorex
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redguru said:
Yes I agree, however I am shocked to this day how fast the memory of 9/11 has faded outside the North East. Some good thinkers suggest that it may take a number of major events to reinforce this, not only one unfortunately.
Like tonite, I drove over the Tobin Bridge (Boston) which goes over all the oil tanks and tankers. I hurry over it every time. Grew up with a mile of enormous LNG tanks, back then we feared fire, now a simple RPG would finish us.
redguru
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mightymouse69 said:
I live in a tanker port city, and near a larger oil tanker city, Mobile. Anyone that lives in a large cargo container city should be in deep fear for their safety. Places like Norfolk and Jacksonville are extremely prone to attack. Detonate a 5kt (small) nuke in Norfolk's Shipping Terminal and its close proximity to Norfolk Naval Base could cripple the US Navy, not to mention kill 50,000-100,000 people in Norfolk, Portsmouth and Hampton. Jacksonville's terminal is about 10 miles from the population center so the damage wouldn't be as severe.
I guess my point is that Americans are blissfully unaware of the extreme danger we are in. Is it that they are uninformed or that they would rather stick their head in the sand and hope the problems dematerialize?
Raptorex
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redguru said:
Yup, they think everyone has the same secular beliefs that they have and are not willing to die for a cause. Thus, they believe negotiation will win the day.
Wrong, Islam scares the living shit out of me, they act in ways in the name of Allah that is beyond reason.
BTW, just so you know I daily say good morning to a memorial picture of a woman and her lil baby that died on a local flight on 9/11...we had a bunch here that were going to LA.
redsamurai
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so a major terrorist attack would save us??
and the fall of the roman empire was pretty simplistic.....corruption and greed. All a major terrrorist attack would do is give the federal government an excuse to become more powerful. We weren't supposed to have a fed to begin with....it was all supposed to be individual states that decided THEMSELVES how much money to give to the "small" union or what we now call federal government.
and the fall of the roman empire was pretty simplistic.....corruption and greed. All a major terrrorist attack would do is give the federal government an excuse to become more powerful. We weren't supposed to have a fed to begin with....it was all supposed to be individual states that decided THEMSELVES how much money to give to the "small" union or what we now call federal government.
redguru
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redsamurai said:
I believe that same cynicism, which is inherent in secular humanism will be the downfall of Western civilization. To believe in nothing, not even an ideal, is dangerous in that it prevents us from uniting under a common banner. What that banner is, call it freedom of thought, if you will, doesn't matter. If our opponent wishes to destroy us by whatever means necessary, no manner of capitulation will aid our cause. In fact, capitulation in any form is shown as weakness and strengthens the resolve of those who wish us ill.
If nothing else, fight for the banner of decadence of the West, For if Militant Islam wins the day, our little party ends.
redsamurai
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redguru said:
that cynicism which you attribute to secular humanism is right on the mark........uncle sam has never given me a worthy cause to go and die for him....period. He lies to us, he fucks us, he takes our money and snorts cocaine with it.......hard to unite under that one, unless of course we're brainwashed. But the uber point is that Uncle Sams coke habit (so to speak) is what this whole shit is about in the first place. Tis why I'm off to Canada shortly. But you are absolutely right in that we almost have no choice but to do war with them......they will likely not be sated until they dominate the planet....it's their religion. So go ahead and nuke em....I'll be in canada huffing that terrible clean air.
CrazyRussian
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anthrax said:
I think the defeat in vietnam is one that historians can agree on...
mrplunkey
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It's our "don't fix it until it's completely broken" attitude. We won't reach-out again and try to be proactive until a major terrorist attack happens.redguru said:
Combine this attitude with our "piling-on" technique and you paralyze the political system. People love to second-quess and Monday-morning quarterback political decisions. Bill Clinton handled it perfectly -- play president, get a blowjob or two, have fun with cigars, and let the next guy deal with the threat.
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alien amp pharm
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I've been saying this for a while now.
There will come a day when a major attack on US soil will cause it to collapse. People panic very easily and that is all it will take for chaos to ensue.
US currency will be worthless. Instead people will be fighting and killing over food and other necessities.
I have been slowly preparing for such an event. Have you? or are you one of those who don't think it will ever happen because your governement has all the answers?
There will come a day when a major attack on US soil will cause it to collapse. People panic very easily and that is all it will take for chaos to ensue.
US currency will be worthless. Instead people will be fighting and killing over food and other necessities.
I have been slowly preparing for such an event. Have you? or are you one of those who don't think it will ever happen because your governement has all the answers?
mrplunkey
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I don't know if it will collapse us though. My best guess is an Iranian or NK nuke (possibly an old ruskie one too) being snuck-into a US port. Probably lose between 1M and 2.5M people.alien amp pharm said:
The biological angle is always a possibility too, but that's tougher to pull-off. We're overdue for a pandemic anyway (i.e. a SARS or bird-flu type thing) so maybe that will get to us first.
We should be having a national debate about proactive versus reactive foreign policy. Instead, we'll waste the next few years with Congressional inquiries regarding Dick Cheney and bitching about Iraq.
Raptorex
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I am in the Massachusetts Medical Reserve corps. They started recruiting aggressively about two years ago. I am not saying we are ready as a Nation, however we are light years ahead of where we were on 9/11.
Here is the agenda of our last course, we have to take a ton of them.
PURPOSE: This one-day course is designed to provide Emergency Responders baseline Awareness Level knowledge of Weapons of Mass Destruction, and the challenges created when an incident of WMD occurs.
MODULES:
• Prevention & Deterrence
• Chemical Agents
• Biological Agents
• Radiological Agents
• Explosive Devices
AUDIENCE: Law Enforcement, Emergency Medical Services, Emergency Management Agencies,
Fire Services, Hazardous Material (Hazmat) Teams, Department of Public Works, Government Administrative Personnel, Public Safety Communications, and Department of Public Health.
Here is the agenda of our last course, we have to take a ton of them.
PURPOSE: This one-day course is designed to provide Emergency Responders baseline Awareness Level knowledge of Weapons of Mass Destruction, and the challenges created when an incident of WMD occurs.
MODULES:
• Prevention & Deterrence
• Chemical Agents
• Biological Agents
• Radiological Agents
• Explosive Devices
AUDIENCE: Law Enforcement, Emergency Medical Services, Emergency Management Agencies,
Fire Services, Hazardous Material (Hazmat) Teams, Department of Public Works, Government Administrative Personnel, Public Safety Communications, and Department of Public Health.
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Subzeero
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mightymouse69 said:
bro, so you suggest that we live in fear and paranoia for the rest of our lives to make sure western civilization exists? Thats BS man, sorry. I mean, you are suggesting that we become more paranoid than we already are?
What about living a good free life bro?
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Subzeero said:
So you believe your politically correct and corrupt government will keep you safe?
I sure don't have faith in it.
To me personally it's not about paranoia but a matter of being prepared instead. I see nothing wrong with that.
redguru
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Subzeero said:
Biological agents are readily transportable, more easily concealed and take time to disperse. You can infect one aircraft with a severe flu strain for example, and it would take a couple weeks to develop into an endemic. I'm not speaking from a medical standpoint but a mathematical one. It's a standard logarithmic function. The culprit can make a clean getaway without anyone even knowing that a WMD has been used.
The reason I suspect that a biological agent will be used before a nuclear one is that the agents are more readily available to those that wish us harm. You can build a nuclear weapon rather easily, but creating the fuel requires sophistication not currently accessible to terrorists. That is why preventing Iran from creating as much nuclear fuel and doping it to much higher levels than standard power plant fuel is essential to our National interests.
Oh, and by the way, isn't it ironic that you mis-spelled truly when you called me "truely idiotic"?
mkazzbmf
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alien amp pharm said:
Aye....When it does finaly happen the lemmings will be cursing their Zionist controlled Government that they have supported until that time. The lemmings will die off once the TV is no longer there to tell them how to eat breath and sleep. All the while crying and praying to a god that does not exist. Crying and complaining about how they are unfortunate victims. Be prepared to fight for the right side....Or be prepared to fight for a total of 2 seconds in my crosshairs.
mkazzbmf
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redguru said:
Most Klansmen are Christian numb-nuts.
Most Skinheads are disgruntled unaware children.
I on the other hand am an enlightened human being.
American Idol is calling you....go text your vote. When the final days do come I will let you live....Only to dig the graves for the worthless dead ones you worship.
Subzeero
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alien amp pharm said:
my case against paranoia, is primarily for the reason that it can exploited. Now i sure don't have faith in the government, as a matter of fact I am very much against anything that excercises any kind of control or power over me, for I am an evolved intelligent being. I don't need the incentive of institutions, jails and punishments to refrain me from commiting crimes and impinge on rights of my fellow human beings. I don't require it. My intelligence is offended by this government.
In words of my hero Henry Thoreau, "A government is best when it governs least or better yet, a government is best when it doesn't governs at all."
Regardless, my arguement is against fear. When instilled with fear, your are more willing to trade your freedom for security. And your individual freedom is most precious. This enables the few in power to excercise control effortlessly and treat you like a puppet. The issue is not of anything moral or righteous here. The issue is of power.
I cannot really conclude that my peeps here on this thread are in error. For they are right as there is threat, but surely an induced threat by the US government. If people fail to percieve this, then are lacking in cognitive faculties. It is ridiculous that some of you seemingly encourage a terrorist attack on your people and in your country. This is just vain. You see far, but you don't see far enough. You have an opinion, but your opinion does not favour you, your individual.
For example, it is unintelligent to have opinions such as some expressed in this thread. For such opinions are suitable for those who have some sort of incentive of power and are in a postion of authority. But you are just an individual. All you are entitled to is your freedom and that is all that you have to defend. But you side with those who want to exploit the very one thing you should hold most precious. And for what? You have no incentive to hold such an opinion. Why should you trade your freedom for security, with a government, you know is corrupt and in essence impotent? Maybe it is an ego issue and nothing else. Maybe you would like to feel important because only important people hold such opinions. The first truth is that it is not necessary to be important. First understand that. Then understand that you are not important. Because important people are the ones that have power and must control to obtain power. Then drop that nonsensical opinion.
Stop thinking like a politician or an army commander. You are neither. You are a free human being! For once, think for your own good.
redguru
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mkazzbmf said:Most Klansmen are Christian numb-nuts.
Most Skinheads are disgruntled unaware children.
I on the other hand am an enlightened human being.
American Idol is calling you....go text your vote. When the final days do come I will let you live....Only to dig the graves for the worthless dead ones you worship.
I'm the descendant of Ghetto Poles, I have relatives that participated in the uprisings during WW2, and others that died in concentration camps. We are not Jewish, but Catholic and Non-Jewish Pole were also killed by the millions in concentration camps. I wouldn't take the time out of my day to piss on you if you were on fire. W dupie byles, gowno widziales.
Subzeero
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mightymouse69 said:
It is true that i am a boy, compared to you. And i truely respect you because you are worthy of it. But, i was born in afghanistan, right in the middle of Russian Afghan war. My first memories are of birds eating rotten bodies by the road sides, Ruski Tanks, bloody red glares of fire dominating a portion of the sky, and fearing for my father life as i knew that he was in the middle of it all. There was a funeral every weekend, rocket attacks, neighbours dyeing, buzz of russian airplanes wouldn't let me sleep all night. This is only a bit of my very voilent childhood. I have seen enough for a lifetime.
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Subzeero said:
damn maing, that's heavy
mrplunkey
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No one is suggesting "fear and paranoia".Subzeero said:
I for one, am suggesting that the US have a national debate on proactive versus reactive foreign policy. We can either react to terrorist attacks or we can proactively try to take-out rogue regeimes. It should be among our top 1-2 issues right now and once we make the decision, we should build a foreign policy strategy that pursues the chosen goal.
redsamurai
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Subzeero said:
hakushuku
CrazyRussian
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The average lifespan of a species is 100,000 years. Looks like humans are no exception to the rule...we're not going to survive very much longer, we're just not favored for natural selection. All the damage we're causing to the environment, all the nuclear weapons, etc. I can see an end relatively soon
redsamurai
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CrazyRussian said:
take this for what you will.....but i've read books that compiled data found by "fringe" archaeologists and anthropologists. There are some out there that beleive the world has already undergone nuclear devestation. The evidence that they point to is that even here in North america, if you dig deep enough.....you'll come to earth layers that represent the surface of the earth from 6-10,000 years ago. And "supposedly" they've found numerous areas of the planet that had been hit with millions of degrees of heat and radiation......and in patches roughly the circumference of modern day nuclear weapons. I don't remember the exact discussion.......but main stream scientists attributed those layers to meteor hits......but there was some evidence, not sure what......but that piece of evidence, according to the fringe guys, showed without a doubt that a meteor could not have been responsible. As I said, take it for what you will.......because accepting that information on any level leads to the obvious and natural conclusion that we are not the first incarnation of man. Lot's of old documents speak plainly of ancient technological civilizations......of course they're just written off as science fiction writing......but it makes you think. I am convinced without a shadow of a doubt that current versions of human history are at the very least "revised" or "dubious"......at worst it's a possibility that it's all a joke. Everything we've known growing up could have been a giant lie??
redsamurai
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Subzeero said:
are you referring to the meiji period warlord? i'm afraid you misunderstood me.......or probably more succinctly, my failed attempt at being clever and writing to you something in japanese. I'll admit my japanese is almost nonexistent at this point.....but I'm learning. Does hakushuku not mean "brothers"?? My humble apologies if I am in error......that was stupid to try with my limited japanese.....
jimi3times
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I dont think anyone could mount any form of prolonged or large attack that would end us. Just as the insurgents in Iraq, we would have malitia. Every man woman and child that hunts would be well equiped to be a sniper. No foriegn army could move that many troops without our knowledge and all police departments would fall under martial law. i think sooner or later our politics will be face challenges but in the end America is safe.
mkazzbmf
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redguru said:
I am also of Polish decent. My Polish Family was of weathly stock. They lost almost everything to deceitful Jewish bankers in the years leading up to WW2. It would have been a good thing for BOTH of our ancestors if Germany would have held Poland and brought it back from the dead. If your family fought the Germans then they were fighting for the filthy Jews of the nation and dieing for them....Much like the misled soldiers of todays USA, who fight and die for Israel's interests in the Mid East. Your Polish family were traitors to their own kind. The worst kind of traitor. I spit on their filthy graves. It is too bad you did not learn from their misdeeds.
redguru
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I am done with this thread.
mkazzbmf, you are a festering pool of shit. I don't know who's alter you are, but you are probably the most unfunny one I have ever seen. Your malice toward all others will probably cause your early demise, either through a stomach ulcer or someone throttling you.
Jedza gowna i ma cudowny dzien.
mkazzbmf, you are a festering pool of shit. I don't know who's alter you are, but you are probably the most unfunny one I have ever seen. Your malice toward all others will probably cause your early demise, either through a stomach ulcer or someone throttling you.
Jedza gowna i ma cudowny dzien.
jimi3times
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I say bring it on, i did not get a deer this year so im itchin to tune in my rifles.
klausflouride
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redguru said:
Very well put. Sounds like the ethos of fahrenheit 451!
jimi3times
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In the immortal words of Chesty PULLER; USMC; Were not retreating, were attcking in another direction.
mkazzbmf
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redguru said:
Im sure you are....I would walk away now before you expose even more of your filthy traitor bloodlines. So many Poles worked hard all their lives only to lose their lifes savings to filthy Jewish bankers who ran with the money to other countries....Your family fought for them and hopefuly died doing so as they would deserve for being the traitors that they were.
It amazes me how people will just do as they are told instead of fighting for what is right. Some people have no self pride and no sense of honor....and obviously it gets passed down to their filthy ancestry as in the case of redguru....::SPIT!::
Old Polish proverb: "The Jew cries out in pain as he slaps you"
I see hatred is alive & well in the younger generations. Tell me. Do you hate because you have been wronged, or do you hate because you have been taught to hate? I suspect it is the latter, in which cacse you are no different than the zealots who are blowing up innocents around the world.mkazzbmf said:
mkazzbmf
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HiDnGoD said:
My views of "hate" as you call them (I call them facts) are something that I came to on my own over years of life experience and LOTS of research. I began to notice a double standard that non-Jews face in the Western Worlds "free society". Jews say they are white yet when whites are attacked by non whites for being "white devils" the Jews separate from whites and then they are just Jews. But when the need to fit in with whites is there they are once again whites. I was once like most of the sheeple who are railroaded with lies their whole life. I slowly began to notice that Jews have a death grip on foriegn policy, banking, and the media (all of which are crucial to keeping control of the masses) and thought that perhaps there is a reason why less than 3% of the population of the western world would have so much of a stake in such things. As it turns out there is a definite reason. It took me the better part of 3 years to come to grips with the fact that I have been lied to my whole life and was being herded with the rest of the cattle to surrender my beliefs to the Jewish media machine and Monetary system (By the way all us currency is printed by the PRIVATELY owned federal reserve, by Jewish bankers of course). I came past the fear of being labeled an anti-semite, or racist and came to the conclusion that standing up for the truth is the most virtuous thing any man can do. I am not a racist in the traditional sense because I believe that all NON-Jews (whites, blacks, muslims, hispanics) are being heavily exploited by the Zionist machine, and think they should all join forces to stop the true racists....The Jews. Call me crazy but there is a huge amount of overwhelming evidence supporting this and just because your beloved TV tells you otherwise does not make it so. I call on all of you to think for yourselves and do the research to prove me wrong if you are so sure that I am.
I don't watch much TV. I get all my news from EF.mkazzbmf said:
Your views, right or not, are your views.
But the malice put into previous statements, such as, "I spit on their filthy graves" is not going to help your position, which is to enlighten people. They are just going to see you as a racist "anti-semitist".
Most people are busy trying to live their lives rather than research for 3 years based on something you said. If you want to make a point, post up some links and proof.
redsamurai
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stop blanking this guys threads.....let them have it out with each other.
Subzeero
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redsamurai said:
oh please bro, no apologies are due here. I spent little time in Japan, but i am no expert in the language or people. But i must admit, I am extremely keen about their culture and moral standards.
Yes i was referring to the meiji period warlord. He was very pro freedom as well, by coincidence, and founded the liberal party in japan if i am not mistaken.
I am honored that you consider me a brother. Infinite thanks.
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