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Texas State Lawmaker Opposing Deadly Force Bill Shoots Would-Be Thief

alien amp pharm said:
I believe it...

Only a liberal is dumb enough to keep getting robbed without arming him/herself.
You do realize that in your state you couldn't shoot someone in self defense outside of your home, period, until a month ago?
 
I would argue that simply firing the gun in his direction would be found to be use of deadly force in a courtroom.
Regardless if where he hit him or maybe even if he missed.

Wiki..
Deadly force is a level of force which is inherently likely to cause death or great bodily injury. Firearms, bladed weapons, explosives, and vehicles are among those weapons the use of which is considered deadly force.
 
When I took the course awhile back to get my concealed weapons permit here in Oregon they had a lawyer come in and talk for awhile. He said make sure of two things if you ever have to use your gun in self defense. One, make sure the individual is inside your home. And two, make sure he/she is dead. Otherwise you will be financially devastated when they sue you, and possibly do time.
 
The INSIDE of your home restriction is relevant to most states in the US..
aka Castle Doctrine. You must retreat if you are able to, unless inside your home.

Some states are now removing that restriction to allow you to shoot anyone anywhere when you fear for your life or safety, or someone elses even.
 
Dial_tone said:
You do realize that in your state you couldn't shoot someone in self defense outside of your home, period, until a month ago?

It's messed up isn't it?

No wonder we hear of horrific stories daily on the news. The geniuses passing laws only hurt the ones who abide by them.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
When I took the course awhile back to get my concealed weapons permit here in Oregon they had a lawyer come in and talk for awhile. He said make sure of two things if you ever have to use your gun in self defense. One, make sure the individual is inside your home. And two, make sure he/she is dead. Otherwise you will be financially devastated when they sue you, and possibly do time.

Want to come over and hang out at my place sometime?

Here, have a nice cup of tea.

*bang*
 
Y_lifter said:
In 2005, Fla updated the castle doctrine to include not just inside of the home, but to also include vehicles and even your person or someone elses if you feel threatened.

The Florida "Castle Doctrine" law basically does three things:

One: It establishes, in law, the presumption that a criminal who forcibly enters or intrudes into your home or occupied vehicle is there to cause death or great bodily harm, therefore a person may use any manner of force, including deadly force, against that person.

Two: It removes the "duty to retreat" if you are attacked in any place you have a right to be. You no longer have to turn your back on a criminal and try to run when attacked. Instead, you may stand your ground and fight back, meeting force with force, including deadly force, if you reasonably believe it is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm to yourself or others. [This is an American right repeatedly recognized in Supreme Court gun cases.]

Three: It provides that persons using force authorized by law shall not be prosecuted for using such force.

It also prohibits criminals and their families from suing victims for injuring or killing the criminals who have attacked them.

In short, it gives rights back to law-abiding people and forces judges and prosecutors who are prone to coddling criminals to instead focus on protecting victims.

and it makes sense !
 
jestro said:
And you know what, Miles did just the right thing. He's an excop an licensed to carry. Some dumb shits are robbing copper wire, the thieves pull a knife. Did he use deadly force? NO HE SHOT THE GUY IN THE LEG!

Never bring a knife to a gunfight.

:santa:
 
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