Taking Up Boxing

[the_alcatraz]

So I was in the gym doing some squats, and heard some boxer say that I might look Big because of the juice, but I can't fight for shit...he said something like he could kill me with one punch. Now being on the juice and squatting, I'm usually feeling aggressive and pumped. I was also pissed that day, so I decided to confront him. We both ended up in the ring, and round one, I wiped the floor with him and hit blood was on my shirt, and his face looked like it was run over by a train. To my surprise, that guy was an amateur boxer trying to go pro and one of the best fighters in the gym. Just today, his coach came up to me asking me if I would like to take up boxing as a profession, telling me that the last time he saw that guy take a beating was last year, and he didnt look as bad...

So, I"m considering becoming a pro boxer, or training to become one...whatcha guys think?

Waste of time, or go for it?

 

[the_alcatraz]

Hmm...can I get some opinions here?

 

[layinback]

how old are you?

do you have any experience in fighting?

are you familiar with boxing - martial arts and the type of training it takes to be pro?

 

[the_alcatraz]

how old are you?

do you have any experience in fighting?

are you familiar with boxing - martial arts and the type of training it takes to be pro?

I'm 24. Been fighting since I was 8. I have a black belt in Muay-Tai and a black belt in Full-contact kickboxing. Was captain of wrestling team in highschool and university.

Never did boxing though.

 

[layinback]

I'm 24. Been fighting since I was 8. I have a black belt in Muay-Tai and a black belt in Full-contact kickboxing. Was captain of wrestling team in highschool and university.

Never did boxing though.

well, you out boxed a boxer lol. this is an indication that you have a real
talent for fighting. boxing is a highly technical style and you usually don't
luck up and beat a skilled fighter.

i believe that great fighters have an inborn talent. now obviously you must
work at it and develop skill and technique.

professional boxing is THE most demanding \ grueling sport.

i have been in martial arts for 30 yrs. i learned the basics of boxing
in order to be an overall good fighter. i did the cage fighting \ tough man
contest when i was your age. i got lots of offers to go pro but i didn't want
to do it and i had some personal issues at the time.

it's your decision young man. if you have the dedication and desire coupled with the heart of a fighter then go for it. lots of easier ways
to make a living lol

 

[the_alcatraz]

well, you out boxed a boxer lol. this is an indication that you have a real
talent for fighting. boxing is a highly technical style and you usually don't
luck up and beat a skilled fighter.

i believe that great fighters have an inborn talent. now obviously you must
work at it and develop skill and technique.

professional boxing is THE most demanding \ grueling sport.

i have been in martial arts for 30 yrs. i learned the basics of boxing
in order to be an overall good fighter. i did the cage fighting \ tough man
contest when i was your age. i got lots of offers to go pro but i didn't want
to do it and i had some personal issues at the time.

it's your decision young man. if you have the dedication and desire coupled with the heart of a fighter then go for it. lots of easier ways
to make a living lol

Well, problem is I just got married a few months back, I have a demanding job and my schedual is tight as hell. So I'll probably start boxing this week, and we'll see what happens...if I see myself becoming a boxing champ, then I might just go for it!

 

[needfasp3ed]

One question... Did you two actually BOX or did you street fight with gloves on? There's a HUGE difference. I've been boxing for awhile and its a great way to build your cardio.

 

[the_alcatraz]

One question... Did you two actually BOX or did you street fight with gloves on? There's a HUGE difference. I've been boxing for awhile and its a great way to build your cardio.

We actually did some boxing in the ring. I've been boxing for a few days. It is frickin intense cardio.

 

[KOArtist]

You may as well fight MMA if you have Muay Thai and Wrestling skills. What college, or at least what division did you wrestle?

And BTW, I'm assuming this guy was similar in weight to you, and not full of shit about being good enough to go pro?

 

[the_alcatraz]

You may as well fight MMA if you have Muay Thai and Wrestling skills. What college, or at least what division did you wrestle?

And BTW, I'm assuming this guy was similar in weight to you, and not full of shit about being good enough to go pro?

I won nationals back home for a while (Lebanon)
The level of competition in martial arts is decent
I did martial arts for 11 yrs, got 2 black belts, got sick of it...boxing has more appeal to me.
The guy I fought is a good fighter. He has a strong right cross and a powerful right uppercut. But I still wiped the floor with him.

 

[KOArtist]

Hell, if you got a black belt in muay thai, then you're basically already a boxer! You just know how to add elbows, knees, and kicks to the mix...or was it more of a "traditional martial arts" type of muay thai??

 

[the_alcatraz]

Hell, if you got a black belt in muay thai, then you're basically already a boxer! You just know how to add elbows, knees, and kicks to the mix...or was it more of a "traditional martial arts" type of muay thai??

Muay-Tai is a lot different than boxing man...you will only realise thise when you play both. Trust me.

 

[KOArtist]

I've played plenty of both

 

[the_alcatraz]

I've played plenty of both

Which do you prefer?

 

[KOArtist]

Boxings my first and favorite sport, but I like basically ALL combat sports...boxing first, then MMA, then muay thai and BJJ. Have you done any submission stuff yet?

 

[the_alcatraz]

Boxings my first and favorite sport, but I like basically ALL combat sports...boxing first, then MMA, then muay thai and BJJ. Have you done any submission stuff yet?

Never used to take it that far. I usually knocked him out first 2 mins of the fight. I was THAT good in my weight class.

 

[AztecWarrior]

As for the boxing take it up. Your coming in really late into a sport where the top or even the med level cream of the crop have started when they were like 8 yrs old. Which means your way behind. Don't expect to reach the top since you have no background in boxing. I'm not gonna tell you not to do it but becareful. Boxing is unforgiving. I got tons of deep scare tissue, broken my right hand so many times, had broken ribs, and busted my jaw a couple of times. I've alllowed people to abuse my body daily and I've broken even my own body down to partake in this sport. Goodluck Trazizo.

 

[AztecWarrior]

Also, this is good to manage your anger issues you've talked about on here.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Also, this is good to manage your anger issues you've talked about on here.

I had 3 in-gym fights. Won the three of them K.O. Round 1.

Won't continue boxing. Too much cardio. I lost 8 lbs. I don't wanna be a skinny fucker.

 

[AztecWarrior]

I had 3 in-gym fights. Won the three of them K.O. Round 1.

Won't continue boxing. Too much cardio. I lost 8 lbs. I don't wanna be a skinny fucker.

I know. I'm small now. I'm weighing in about 198 and still going down.

 

[DSS]

If you enjoy doing it, you should explore it and see where it takes you.

 

[trimjim4]

I'm 24. Been fighting since I was 8. I have a black belt in Muay-Tai and a black belt in Full-contact kickboxing. Was captain of wrestling team in highschool and university.

Never did boxing though.

FYI: there is no black belts in Muay Tai or kickboxing... and you won nationals for a while? what does that mean? i am a former Div1 college wrestler and kick boxer/boxer. some karate studios claim to teach muay thai, i guess you would get a belt that way, but there is not BLACK belts or belts at all in the sports you speak of. that would be like saying im a brown belt in wrestling...

 

[trimjim4]

FYI: there is no black belts in Muay Tai or kickboxing... and you won nationals for a while? what does that mean? i am a former Div1 college wrestler and kick boxer/boxer. some karate studios claim to teach muay thai, i guess you would get a belt that way, but there is not BLACK belts or belts at all in the sports you speak of. that would be like saying im a brown belt in wrestling...

 

[trimjim4]

I've played plenty of both

played? lol... well then you should have know that there is no belts in either sport...

 

[blackmike]

I'm 24. Been fighting since I was 8. I have a black belt in Muay-Tai and a black belt in Full-contact kickboxing. Was captain of wrestling team in highschool and university.

Never did boxing though.

lol hey bro. i wasnt aware that Muay Thai or kickboxing offered belts...

 

[*The_West*]

lol hey bro. i wasnt aware that Muay Thai or kickboxing offered belts...

it does. i have a black belt in kickboxing and brown in muay thai.

 

[blackmike]

it does. i have a black belt in kickboxing and brown in muay thai.

traditional kickboxing and Muay Thai do not offer belts. The current ISKA kickboxing champ or the current K1 or Muay Thai kickboxing champs do not have black or any color belts in their sport.

 

[blackmike]

it does. i have a black belt in kickboxing and brown in muay thai.

http://www.thaiboxing.com/faq.php

FAQ section. go down to "does muay thai have belts?"
it explains that, Yes, there are belts. yu get them from winning fights. they are brightly colored and shiny. it explains some of the title belts availabe and shows a pic of a fighter displaying his championship belt.

 

[*The_West*]

http://www.thaiboxing.com/faq.php

FAQ section. go down to "does muay thai have belts?"
it explains that, Yes, there are belts. yu get them from winning fights. they are brightly colored and shiny. it explains some of the title belts availabe and shows a pic of a fighter displaying his championship belt.

see how at the top it says 'thai boxing association of the USA.' i live in england. im not sure how other countries and organizations govern their sports, but training where i do and with who i do you get belts in kick+thai.
who are you anyway? are you actually a fighter or just some random who goes round googling info on the internet?

 

[*The_West*]

and also those muay thai belts are ones you receive for winning tournaments, not ones you get to show your level of training

 

[blackmike]

see how at the top it says 'thai boxing association of the USA.' i live in england. im not sure how other countries and organizations govern their sports, but training where i do and with who i do you get belts in kick+thai.
who are you anyway? are you actually a fighter or just some random who goes round googling info on the internet?

ya your probably right, thai boxing association of USA doesnt have belts, but im sure Thai fighter in England do... do they train in gis as well? where do they put their belt? around their shorts perhaps? i am not going to name drop and try to explain my credentials to you. just found it laughable that guys were black belts in Muay Thai.

 

[*The_West*]

ya your probably right, thai boxing association of USA doesnt have belts, but im sure Thai fighter in England do... do they train in gis as well? where do they put their belt? around their shorts perhaps? i am not going to name drop and try to explain my credentials to you. just found it laughable that guys were black belts in Muay Thai.

no of course we dont dont train in a gi. i dont even wear my belts, whats the point? they sit in a cabinet in my house. when i have been training for the next level you pay the course fee, are assessed in various techniques and training methods, and if you are succesful you receive your belt and a certificate. as i said, its different organizations. here you have to have a black belt to be an certified kickboxing coach. you dont want "try and explain your credentials" is that because you think i wont understand, or because you have none? i dont make myself out to be some sort of ultimate warrior or fountain of knowledge, all i know is i have a black in kick boxing and a brown in thai.

 

[*The_West*]

plus the_alcatraz is a well respected and knowledgable member of these forums, he isnt going to just make something like that up. and neither am i. i get the impression you're not even a fighter, so what would you know?

 

[blackmike]

and also those muay thai belts are ones you receive for winning tournaments, not ones you get to show your level of training

http://members.aol.com/Thaiboxing2000/muay.html

first paragraph should explain it to you. im sure this is far different than whatever McDojo you are going to. (some karate dojos are teaching "Muay Thai" and incoorperating belts to make more money and offer tests to move onto the next belt.) gimme a fuckin break...

 

[lhayes]

plus the_alcatraz is a well respected and knowledgable member of these forums, he isnt going to just make something like that up. and neither am i. i get the impression you're not even a fighter, so what would you know?

Alcatraz seems like a good story teller to me. I have been boxing for 15 years a guy ready to turn pro and a good fighter isn't going to get destroyed by a fighter in 1 round that has never boxed come on man anybody that has boxed knows that. It is very rare in sparring to get busted up at all but your boys 1st time boxing he is making peoples face look like a train wreck in the 1st round. lol

 

[the_alcatraz]

lol hey bro. i wasnt aware that Muay Thai or kickboxing offered belts...

depends on the country bro. I know Canada doesn't. When I got here, walked into a dojo and showed them my belts, they kinda laughed and thought I was fuckin around. They werent laughing when I was sparring though.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Alcatraz seems like a good story teller to me. I have been boxing for 15 years a guy ready to turn pro and a good fighter isn't going to get destroyed by a fighter in 1 round that has never boxed come on man anybody that has boxed knows that. It is very rare in sparring to get busted up at all but your boys 1st time boxing he is making peoples face look like a train wreck in the 1st round. lol

If you've ever boxed, then you know a big guy with a hammer for a punch can get lucky. even if he's never boxed before. I guess I got lucky. That boxer wouldnt last a second with me in a cage, but in a boxing ring, he probably would kick my as in a sanctioned fight. He underestimated me, maybe...he's overrated, perhaps...but I knocked him the fuck out and no one was laughing.

I really don't care whether or not you believe me either man...it's all good. Not going to affect my life either way

Enjoy your stay here at EF, and if you ned any help, don't hesitate to PM me.

 

[heavy_duty]

so i was in the gym doing some squats, and heard some boxer say that i might look big because of the juice, but i can't fight for shit...he said something like he could kill me with one punch. Now being on the juice and squatting, i'm usually feeling aggressive and pumped. I was also pissed that day, so i decided to confront him. We both ended up in the ring, and round one, i wiped the floor with him and hit blood was on my shirt, and his face looked like it was run over by a train. To my surprise, that guy was an amateur boxer trying to go pro and one of the best fighters in the gym. Just today, his coach came up to me asking me if i would like to take up boxing as a profession, telling me that the last time he saw that guy take a beating was last year, and he didnt look as bad...

So, i"m considering becoming a pro boxer, or training to become one...whatcha guys think?

Waste of time, or go for it?

go for it

 

[the_alcatraz]

go for it

lol

That was a long time bro...check out the date of the post

I did a few training sessions...too much cardio man...I dnt neeed that much cardio, still trying to bulk lol

 

[lhayes]

If you've ever boxed, then you know a big guy with a hammer for a punch can get lucky. even if he's never boxed before. I guess I got lucky. That boxer wouldnt last a second with me in a cage, but in a boxing ring, he probably would kick my as in a sanctioned fight. He underestimated me, maybe...he's overrated, perhaps...but I knocked him the fuck out and no one was laughing.

I really don't care whether or not you believe me either man...it's all good. Not going to affect my life either way

Enjoy your stay here at EF, and if you ned any help, don't hesitate to PM me.

Well when you say his face looked like a train wreck in 1 round I find it hard to believe with a good fighter ready to turn pro. Catching him with a good shot of course it can happen. I have been on ef since 2001.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Well when you say his face looked like a train wreck in 1 round I find it hard to believe with a good fighter ready to turn pro. Catching him with a good shot of course it can happen. I have been on ef since 2001.

Then welcome back I suppose.

Enjoy the new forums

 

[wills_got_rythm]

it does. i have a black belt in kickboxing and brown in muay thai.

I have your basic black belt, I use to hold my pants up and clip my flashlight and phone on

 

[heavy_duty]

depends on the country bro. I know Canada doesn't. When I got here, walked into a dojo and showed them my belts, they kinda laughed and thought I was fuckin around. They werent laughing when I was sparring though.

Alcatraz,
come to my dojo in Rexdale I'll get my brown belts to kick your ass!

 

[bikezclimb]

I don't think you'll be able to box on steroids. MMA might be a better fit.

 

[Tatyana]

Oi, are you e-copying me?

I started boxing training about two months ago, I am loving it.

I am a slugger, not sure if I have the reflexes yet.

I would train like you are going to fight, just to see if it is something that appeals and would fit into your lifestyle.

HARDCORE MOFO, respect

 

[the_alcatraz]

Oi, are you e-copying me?

I started boxing training about two months ago, I am loving it.

I am a slugger, not sure if I have the reflexes yet.

I would train like you are going to fight, just to see if it is something that appeals and would fit into your lifestyle.

HARDCORE MOFO, respect

wow, that's pretty old. not sure how I mised this post Tat lol!

Yeh, I gave it up...lost 9 lbs in like 3 weeks...too much cardio and I'm bulking, so doesn't really fit into my lifestyle...

 

[heavy_duty]

translation "I cant stay away from the Mandarin buffet" LOL