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T3 sucks Big Donkey Balls.

Already wrote Andy on this but wanted to see what you guys thought as well.

Do you think taking a low dose of T3 while on DNP and Clen would have any positive effects on additional fat loss. I am not taking any kind of AAS so I am worried about muscle loss. I am on a 4 week DNP cycle with the clen running 2weekson/2off. I wanted to take 1/2 tab (12.5mcgs T3) ED for this next week, then bump it to 25mcgs for the following week and then back down to the half tab ED for the last week.
DO you think this would cause me to crash, slow down my thyroid for an extended period of time after the DNP?
Is there anything to take to help your thyroid recover a little quicker?

Thanks in advance for your help.

mitch
 
mitch1301 said:
Already wrote Andy on this but wanted to see what you guys thought as well.

Do you think taking a low dose of T3 while on DNP and Clen would have any positive effects on additional fat loss. I am not taking any kind of AAS so I am worried about muscle loss. I am on a 4 week DNP cycle with the clen running 2weekson/2off. I wanted to take 1/2 tab (12.5mcgs T3) ED for this next week, then bump it to 25mcgs for the following week and then back down to the half tab ED for the last week.
DO you think this would cause me to crash, slow down my thyroid for an extended period of time after the DNP?
Is there anything to take to help your thyroid recover a little quicker?

Thanks in advance for your help.

mitch

I answered your PM/ Btw.

25mcg will completely shut you down. It shuts you down as much as 300mcg or any other dose. Keep your dose at 12.5mcg.

Take Taurine with your clen at 3-5g ED to make sure you don't crash frm the Clen. Clen depletes Taurine levels in the liver which slows down the conversion of T4 to T3.

Also L-tyrosine+Vitamin C is great following a cycle such as yours.
 
bro you have to be on juice when doing t3

And it actually rocks once you get up to 75-100mcg/day. It is very catabolic so you must be taking anticatabolic material when you use this (AS or HGH)
 
Lone AZ, good post

Arizona I think you make a good statement for people to think twice about thyroid med's, or take them more seriously than juice. To me personally they are the most dangerous of most of the bodybuilding drugs we talk about on these boards(besides DNP obviously and slin). Mainly because you can mess up your thyroid function pretty easily. Like someone said above, a steroid crash is one thing, thyroid crash is another.

I lived near Venice Beach for about 5 years, worked out at the Gold's & World's there. I also at the time was a pharmaceutical rep for a company that made a generic version of Synthroid (the #1 selling T4, #1 thyroid med in revenue) So I got to talk with alot of endo's about athletes use of thyroid med's, since they saw alot of these people due to the location. One Dr., a vietn. guy who was one of the smartest people I've ever met, gave me horror story after horror story. He wasn't trying to scare me either, but probably 80% of his practice was thyroid patients. He would let me sit in on a patient consultation (if the patient agreed) for my own benefit to learn. When you've sat across from someone that can't get their thyroid functioning properly (especially if they're fitness minded), you won't see a more depressed person. Months of massive weight, mood, etc... swings and weekly visits to the endo for bloodwork and adjustments. So I see Arizona's thoughts that it can easily turn into a vicious cycle and for some people could cause much more serious problems. And if you were a newbie and just found this board with the amount of T3 posts you might jump into it quicker than you should

Given all of that, I would like to hear people's thoughts on a smaller dose, say 5mcg-12.5mcg/daily for extended periods(months) as more of a "metabolic optimizer". I wish I still lived by some of my old Dr.'s so I could ask some of the more open minded ones about this.
 
As soon as I get over 50mcg / day, T3 kicks the hell outa me and I feel like complete hell. The only time I would ever take it now would be during a high test cycle with only about 12.5mcg per day for the metabolism increase.
 
you should be getting some nice results when clen is added...you live and learn...although T3 has never interested me...there's some great info on this post...keep up the progress report BA...
 
Re: Lone AZ, good post

klomidman said:
Arizona I think you make a good statement for people to think twice about thyroid med's, or take them more seriously than juice. To me personally they are the most dangerous of most of the bodybuilding drugs we talk about on these boards(besides DNP obviously and slin). Mainly because you can mess up your thyroid function pretty easily. Like someone said above, a steroid crash is one thing, thyroid crash is another.

I lived near Venice Beach for about 5 years, worked out at the Gold's & World's there. I also at the time was a pharmaceutical rep for a company that made a generic version of Synthroid (the #1 selling T4, #1 thyroid med in revenue) So I got to talk with alot of endo's about athletes use of thyroid med's, since they saw alot of these people due to the location. One Dr., a vietn. guy who was one of the smartest people I've ever met, gave me horror story after horror story. He wasn't trying to scare me either, but probably 80% of his practice was thyroid patients. He would let me sit in on a patient consultation (if the patient agreed) for my own benefit to learn. When you've sat across from someone that can't get their thyroid functioning properly (especially if they're fitness minded), you won't see a more depressed person. Months of massive weight, mood, etc... swings and weekly visits to the endo for bloodwork and adjustments. So I see Arizona's thoughts that it can easily turn into a vicious cycle and for some people could cause much more serious problems. And if you were a newbie and just found this board with the amount of T3 posts you might jump into it quicker than you should

Given all of that, I would like to hear people's thoughts on a smaller dose, say 5mcg-12.5mcg/daily for extended periods(months) as more of a "metabolic optimizer". I wish I still lived by some of my old Dr.'s so I could ask some of the more open minded ones about this.

Very good points, T3 SHOULD NEVER BE TAKEN LIGHTLY!!

It's not something you just throw into the mix. It takes a great deal of research (I've been reading medical files/Studies/Books/posts/experiences since October) and commitment. If you don't "kow your body" don't try this drug. If you don't know what "knowing your body" means, don't even consider it.
 
da big thinker said:
you should be getting some nice results when clen is added...you live and learn...although T3 has never interested me...there's some great info on this post...keep up the progress report BA...

Yes, I'm going up to 37.5mcg tomorrow, and then add clen after tommorrow.

You know, I woke up yesterday and I said to myself what the fuck am I doing messing with my thyroid. I really don't think this drug is worth it, as far as the crash. I hope it's not too bad, I'm preparing myself, but I know it will happen.

It's very hard mentally to use T3 without AS, my legs are so flat, but yet they haven't lost a fraction of an inch. They look like a runaway models legs.

I'm constantly pumping up where ever I go. At my girlfriends place, I started freakin' out because I couldn't feel my delts, they were numb. I grabbed a large bag of milk and started doing lateral raises.

12.5mcg was amazing though.
 
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