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heatherrae
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Oh yeah, here is one of his insightful and interesting thread where he makes fun of a 12 year old girl and calls her a fatass. He's a piece of dog shit.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500351&page=3
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500351&page=3
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heatherrae
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Well, first of all. All of her brothers and sisters were chubby at her age, except one. They all grew out of it, and it had nothing to do with parenting. We give our kids the same food that most of you give your kids. Some kids are just chubby at that age and grow out of it. I only moved here this year, so I haven't been in the picture long enough to have affected her eating habits.
It's just as easy for people with thin kids to pick on the adults with chubby kids as it is for the thin kids to pick on the chubby kids, it seems.
She probably does eat too much and could use more exercise, but lots of it is genetic. We serve the same thing to her as her sister who is one year older as we do to her and she is skinny.
Her mother is thin, her father is thin, I'm certainly not fat, and we all work out. Would you suggest that we lock the fridge, stock it with nothing but tuna and whey, and tie her to a treadmill? You can encourage your kids, but at some point, they do make some of their own decisions.
I packed them a healthy lunch today so they would stop eating lunch at the cafeteria, which gives them a huge choice of junk.
Oh fuck it. Why explain. Haters will be haters.
I hope your kids never have a problem and go through the same thing.
Guess it makes some parents happy to live vicariously through their own children and attack other people and their children to feel better.
It's just as easy for people with thin kids to pick on the adults with chubby kids as it is for the thin kids to pick on the chubby kids, it seems.
She probably does eat too much and could use more exercise, but lots of it is genetic. We serve the same thing to her as her sister who is one year older as we do to her and she is skinny.
Her mother is thin, her father is thin, I'm certainly not fat, and we all work out. Would you suggest that we lock the fridge, stock it with nothing but tuna and whey, and tie her to a treadmill? You can encourage your kids, but at some point, they do make some of their own decisions.
I packed them a healthy lunch today so they would stop eating lunch at the cafeteria, which gives them a huge choice of junk.
Oh fuck it. Why explain. Haters will be haters.
I hope your kids never have a problem and go through the same thing.
Guess it makes some parents happy to live vicariously through their own children and attack other people and their children to feel better.
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I never called her "fat." I said she was chubby and the kids were going to tease her. Fuck you too.jnevin said:
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Pintoca, I will leave the thread if you can name one intelligent, insightful, or interesting thing that kid has ever said. He is just a punk kid who picks on women because he has never gotten any leg yet. He isn't even a nice kid. He is a little punk snot-nosed loser who still lives with mommy and thinks he knows everything.
you told your stepdaughter that she was going to be made fun of at school for her weight, before she even went in for her first day.HeatherRae said:
you slapped makeup on her, and run to EF to post how awsome you are that you are taking care of your "poor chubby stepdaughter who is going to be made fun of".
you used her as a crutch to inflate your own ego, while comp letely crushing hers.
your filth- stay out of my thread
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pintoca said:
So, the "appreciation thread" is only for the "appreciating" members and everyone else should just keep their opinions to themselves?? Just curious.
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HeatherRae said:
I've been here 2 years, I remember MANY funny things he said before and many arguments he started. Lots of one-liners and those require skills
If he's being a dick to you, well, there might be a reason, maybe he simply don't like you
I also didn't approve of the "the kid is wearing makeup" line earlier today, remember? Difference is I drop my "beefs" easier.
Now, I don't remember giving you the right to ask ransom for my thread
i was fat for elementary school through middle school and the beginning of highschool. i was the kid that got laughed at at the pool.HeatherRae said:
i wish my parents knew more about nutrition, but they didnt. and when i realized what was going on it came down to personal responsability, and i joined athletics teams and began eating healthy. dont pull the genetics card.
and it isnt even about her weight, its about you being evil and capitalizing on your stepdaughters weight for an attentionwhore thread on an internet forum. not to mention you COMPLETELY blew it, by telling her she even had something to be self concious of and basically to be ready to get made fun of. you obviously dont remember how hard school life is, even without your guardians cutting you down beforehand
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Lotsa drama up in here. . .good thing it's not Friday. 
SublimeZM said:
HR, your first mistake was saying that she was chubby, second was that you admitted to trying to glam her up so that she wasn't made fun of.
I'm not by any means downing you for wanting the best for her but to do those things are lowering her selfesteem lower than you even know.
LET HER BE HERSELF
If those around her can't accep her for that then FUCK THEM. She can't always be what others want and you shouldn't program her to be what others want.
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LOLpintoca said:
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Frisky said:
oh fuck... you put an avatar without any idea what it means?
That is Akasha, Queen of the Damned, (one of the Oldest Vampires, one of the original 3) in the Anne Rice Vampire Chronicles series... In her Book, she is infatuated with Lestat, the rogue vampire from Interview with the Vampire
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She asked me to do her hair and makeup. It was important to her. It makes her feel special and pampered. It makes her feel pretty. When I was done she looked in the mirror and smiled.Frisky said:
I didn't grab her and tell her she was chubby and that we better put some makeup on her. Jesus Christ, I can't believe how judgmental people are about me helping my step daughter do her hair and makeup for the first day of school.
I say, if it makes her feel pretty and it is age appopriate, then go for it.
She talked to me about kids teasing her, and I told her how to hold her ground. She wanted help to feel pretty this morning, like many girls like to be fixed up. That's all.
We talked about how little girls sometimes like to tease other little girls about anything just to feel better about themselves and to fit into a group and that little boys do the same thing to feel better or because they are starting to like girls and don't know what else to do.
I encourage her, but I love her whether she ends up thin, chubby, or whatever.
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HumanTarget said:
That's my fault. . .I hit it so hard she ended up retarded. Sorry.
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heatherrae
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Actually, that is a good idea...lol.SublimeZM said:
HeatherRae said:
um..
fuck... im not being judgmental at all.
How old is this girl? you said 6th grade? if that is correct then you actually want my opinion? THAT IS TO FUCKING YOUNG TO BE WEARING MAKEUP TO FIT IN.
My previous post was not to slam you but to inform you that makeup and pretty hair will not change the opinion of other assholes in her school. She needs to be accepted for who she is. I'm sure she is a great girl, why not tell her that over and over and have her focus on her strong pts rather than the physical shit...
THAT WAS MY POINT!
But yea, fault me for actually going thru this already, and being a mom... and watch in about 2 years if she is not saying she needs breast implants to fit in (not that there is anything wrong with them, just come on... she is still a damn kid)
Call me a moron I don't care... but what you are teaching this child by applying makeup and dazzling her up to be accepted is that she can't be accepted for WHO SHE IS!
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HeatherRae said:
I'd recommend ju jitsu first. . .MMA rules from a smack down standpoint.
jnevin said:
LOL
I actually can make sence sometime ya know
I believe everyone is individual, don't EVER change who you are to be accepted... no matter WHAT IT IS.
Your girl is prolly the best friend that anyone can befriend and she will find someone to take her up on that. Don't condone that bullshit of putting on makeup and fixing her hair... next thing ya know she will be dressing different and acting different ...... JUST TO FIT IN.
Teach her that people should accept you for how you are.
I just don't get this shit at all.
Ill play dress up with my daughter but I'll be damned if she will ever wear makeup to school, or fall prey to what others think of her, same with my son. They will have thicker skin than that ... no matter if I die trying to make it happen. The world will not ever roll over backwards to make you feel comfortable in your own skin. Its something YOU have to do for yourself.
If you bow down to the demands of people now, you will NEVER be strong enough to stand up for yourself later.
Tough as it may seem, pretty sure it will cause many of sleepless crying nights...
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ya know what, she will grow stronger, and have her own mind and not feel the need to fall prey to those around her.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! blah blah blahFrisky said:LOL
I actually can make sence sometime ya know
I believe everyone is individual, don't EVER change who you are to be accepted... no matter WHAT IT IS.
Your girl is prolly the best friend that anyone can befriend and she will find someone to take her up on that. Don't condone that bullshit of putting on makeup and fixing her hair... next thing ya know she will be dressing different and acting different ...... JUST TO FIT IN.
Teach her that people should accept you for how you are.
I just don't get this shit at all.
Ill play dress up with my daughter but I'll be damned if she will ever wear makeup to school, or fall prey to what others think of her, same with my son. They will have thicker skin than that ... no matter if I die trying to make it happen. The world will not ever roll over backwards to make you feel comfortable in your own skin. Its something YOU have to do for yourself.
If you bow down to the demands of people now, you will NEVER be strong enough to stand up for yourself later.
Tough as it may seem, pretty sure it will cause many of sleepless crying nights...
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ya know what, she will grow stronger, and have her own mind and not feel the need to fall prey to those around her.
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Frisky said:
I wasn't talking about you being judgmental. That being said, I do tell her wonderful things about her. I tell her how she always finishes what she starts. I tell her what a hard worker she is and how nice she is for always pitching in around the house without being told, etc. etc. I tease her a bit about being absent minded like me. I never even mention her weight to her, but I do try to set a decent example.
She likes to wear a little makeup. It is basically a lipgloss and mascara. I see how you would think she is too young because I was not allowed until I was 15. She doesn't dress provacatively, and the light pink stuff that I used was hardly even noticable. It just made her feel good.
You know how when a person, male of female, feels that they look good it makes them more confident? It's all really about that. Whatever jumping off point makes you get your mojo going, why knock it?
It is a bonding thing between us for me to brush her hair and straighten it, to talk about boys, to talk about peer pressure, to put on a little makeup and a new outfit. I think I have some good sense in my head, and I'm not shoving any of that down her throat. She comes to me for these things. She looks in the mirror and feels good.
I don't think she is going to ask for breast implants in a couple of years. She is sort of developmentally young for her age. She still watches disney and can't stand any adult shows or movies. You would just have to meet her and me to know what all is going on.
I just don't like defending what a horrible person that I am, how I am trying to make her feel bad, etc. etc. None of that is true.
i love you wild ranting bitches. so some fat kid is going to be fed to the piranha on the playground. so what? it happens every day, every school. you gonna put on your cape and monitor the swing sets of America, ma? who cares. there isn't enough food or air for everyone anyway.......Frisky said:oh... fucking great
now my thoughts about this are funny
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SublimeZM said:
HumanTarget said:
Exactly my pt dammit!
I don't and won't monitor my kids every move... nor will I go get them designer this or that becaue they think it will make them fit in.
Believe me I've been thru this a ton of times with my son, and now ya know what, though its tough... my boy doesn't take shit from anyone. He stands up for himself and mom doesn't ever have to go to school bitching because such and such picked on him.... blah blah blah. I told him to stand up for himself or he would never get respect.
I could tell stories upon stories... but I don't want to bore anyone. Each individual needs to stand up for theirselves. Material things will NEVER make you any better. Love yourself for who you are and be who you are. If you accept that and walk with confidence then those around you will be attracted to that.
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What material things? I didn't say I got her designer clothes or anything. I just did her hair for her. Wowzers.Frisky said:
Okay, I suck. I'm terrible. I'm a horrible parent and everything that ever goes wrong to this girl in her life is my fault.
Everyone satisfied? The stepmom has been flambe'd for helping her daughter get ready for school and for talking to her about why bullies bully people.
LOL.
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KillahBee said:
Oh, how clever and witty to call thirty something women bad parents and 12 year old girls fat asses. He should really write this material down. I can't believe you actually think that shit is funny. So be it.
HeatherRae said:
Holy Shit
I didn't say you were a bad step mom, never would I say that.
Ah fuck it... I try to give some solid advice beings I've been there and done that and I get told i'm saying this shit.
we all learn from someone don't we? I'm not downing you for your concern. No ONE likes to see the ones they love go thru this kind of shit.
So how did her first day go? Did it help her? Or did she still endure the same shit?
Go from there first...
My main pt was don't allow her to think that she has to become someone else, beit makeup or hair or clothing, to be liked by others.
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Just wait until some of you have a little girl come home crying and you will remember this conversation. You are all perfect armchair parents and oh so clever until it happens to you.
Then, wait until you have some internet twerp calling her names and telling you what a bad parent you are for trying to help.
Then, wait until you have some internet twerp calling her names and telling you what a bad parent you are for trying to help.
HeatherRae said:
honey... been there done that!
I raised my youngest sister and another of my family members, now I have a daughter of my own, raised a step son and have son of my own.
Preach to the choir
Im not saying that you are a bad parent, I'm giving advice from what I've gone thru.
Heather, honestly, people will take whatever you post, and twist and turn it into how they want to interpret it to suit their already conceived notion of you and of the world, their mood that day, what others have already posted, etc. There are a lot of motivations behind what and how people post and reply to posts. Knowing that in advance, you can either agree not to post anything of a personal nature like this or when you do post, dont even bother yourself with paying any attention to people like sublime when they attack you.HeatherRae said:
i.e. People will want to personalize everything, and then project their issue, history, whatever onto some simple and innocent post. do you see what Im getting at? frisky took what you said and made it about her son. sublime took what you said and made it about him when he was younger. and so on and so forth.
I guess what you're not getting is that the girl wanted to have some mascara and lip gloss and to have her hair done because it made her feel better and hence she felt more confident. So when your little girl comes to you next week and asks you to frenchbraid her hair or put pigtails in it or barrettes, you tell her no way in hell are you going to allow that because if you do, she will just become a lame ass wuss and she needs to stand up for herself and love herself even if she has messy unflattering hair. LOL come onFrisky said:
Dont ALL kids want to dress their best and look their best with their new shoes and new clothes on the first day of school. Arent they ALL a wee bit nervous on the first day???? Especially when they are going to a new school??? I dont get whats wrong with wanting to look extra special cute on the first day because it makes ya feel more comfortable and better. where's the harm in that?
ok well now we're getting somewhere.Frisky said:
why not just say "Hey, I dont agree with a 6th grader wearing any amount of makeup". I mean, that's why I asked Heather initially what kind of makeup a child that young wears because I dont think Id allow it either if I had a little girl myself. But that doesnt mean that it's harmful. But you took your judgment about a 6th grader wearing makeup and you turned it into Heather damaging the girl somehow. Just because you dont agree with it doesnt mean Heather actually did any harm. That's all Im saying.
Smurfy said:
I believe I said it in the first post or so... Maybe not, I may have slipped there. I have no problem with waking every morning and straighting my daughters hair, braiding it, polishing her toenails... but I draw the line with the makeup thing. She has her play box where there is glitter and such, but its never to leave the house with. I didn't wear makeup until i was around 15ish maybe older... and then now looking back I wish i wouldn't have ever done that.
I don't think heather is damaging the girl, my opinion... and its only my opinion... is that if she would reinforce the fact that none of that will change anyones opinion about her ... then enforce that she needs to build her self confidence with out it ... that she will be a stronger person. I understand completely what Heather is going thru, I went thru it with my sister and my niece. Its not an easy feat.
I honestly feel for Heather and her stepdaughter having to deal with these issues... Kids are cruel!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish her the best as do I wish her step daughter the best. I hope that she can just be herself and be loved for who she is. It makes life so much easier that way... that is all that I am trying to say.
He cracks me up sometimes. It's also funny how he manages to get people pissed at him. Hell chat board threats/insults should be taken in jest. Reserve the bunched up panties for if he ever shows up at your door, lol.
Frisky said:
There was this chic, uh....girl (my first crush) in the 4th grade that wore this sweater that said "BOYS" all over it with arrows pointing every which way. It was a pretty whorish shirt to be wearing it that age now that I look back. She kinda turned slut/burnout by freshman year and was one of the first gossip mills as to who she was banging and such. I hope she's shaped up a bit since high school....damn, seems like a waste if not. She was hot.
It all starts somewhere. Gotta look for the signs; they are usually on point.
HumanTarget said:
I think Pai Mei could thwart a full clip before slicing the adversary down the middle in two.
Smurfy said:
No shit....?
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heatherrae
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LOL...KillahBee said:
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Frisky said:
Not really talking specifically about you, once again. =-)
The first day went great! I picked them up and they were all wound up and giggly. Summer said several people told her how pretty she looked. You and I know that isn't everything in the world, but try telling a little girl that...lol.
I sure hope she knows she is a cute kid, inside and out. I try to let her know that I like her. I'm new at all this parenting stuff, but she is fun. She and her sister make me laugh.
THanks for asking.
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I love kids. The fact that I haven't had some of my own has to do with not getting married the first time until I was 30 and then that I was working on making a career first.HumanTarget said:
Now, I'm not sure if my guy will want to have more because he has already gotten his raised this far. Babies are not really high on his wish list now that he raised 3 of them.
Really, I don't have to explain my reproductive choices to you guys. Suffice it to say that if my heart were not in it, I wouldn't have thought twice about how their day went.
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Frisky said:
Mascara and lip gloss are far from glamour, it's a young lady wanting to feel pretty. My niece is 13 and has a fatal illness and is in a wheelchair. Like an overweight girl, she does not feel "pretty". When she was 10-11 yrs old, I put some make-up on her and bought her nice clothes to help make her feel pretty.
Listen ladies, we all put a little make up on, wear cute clothes, cute bras etc so we can feel pretty, nothing wrong with a youngster having this done.
No child shall be judged or have a false sense of themselves b/c of some lip gloss.
Heather, taking the reins to be a step mom is tough, you are doing a great job and prob. made your step daughter' day by making her feel pretty.
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lol at this thread being about sub having the "fat kid syndrom" and having early childhood flashbacks............
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