Steroids and mental/mood changes observation...........They exist!

[galaxy]

I guess I never really noticed when I was heavy into gear use, as can be expected I suppose, thats a side effect. Your so into you own little world you just dont notice.

I know guys hate to admit it, but its there. I just see it now on my friends who use since Im no longer using.

Never heard my friend utter negative word about his wife before. Now its all he can do to talk to her. Constantly making her cry.

Another friend just seems more cocky. Again, I suppose to be expected, and he doesnt do it with me, but in general hes just a dick to other people.

And NO, Im not talking they cause roid rage and make you stab you girl to death.

Im just saying theres some very distinct pyschological changes that go on.

Im sure everyone is different, naturally. And not all are affected the same.

Not really making a point and just kinda rambling.

But anyway, just saying.............................

 

[poppabear78]

I can agree to a certain extent as well, I myself have found myself more easily aggravated at times...

Im a very mellow individual but lately I have had some friends and co-workers say things like " Damn ! your really not in a good mood today" or "whats wrong?" " Damn youve been like this for the past few weeks", Etc...

I try to talk to myself and say hey Im just under the influence, or calm down.... Nothing like being physically aggresive but just short tempered at times...
I guess we all react a lil different with the gear and its reaction to our bodies..

 

[needtogetarmy]

Testosterone is clinically proven to effect mood and personality. I never understood people who claim it doesn't have an effect. BS.

 

[armyman]

I would have to agree also. I really get aggressive on tren/test combo. Sometimes its a good aggressiveness though.

I kind of really look at it like this: If i was working out and making the kind of physical changes that I make on steroids, then i would be a bit more cocky regardless.

 

[hurricane]

Agreed 100% ..

 

[the elite addict]

I think it may have to do with the estrogen rather than the testosterone. If I dont run proviron along with my aromatizing compounds, forget it.

 

[bluetoolpaul]

I agree as well. It's not a 'psycho' feeling. Just a more aggressive attitude at times. It's definitely a real side-effect. As long as you have a good head on your shoulders though, it shouldn't be a worry, just something to be aware of so you can nip it in the bud when it arises.

 

[armyman]

I could see it being caused by estrogen, and the up and down of the testosterone if your blood levels arent stable. I know after i inject tren a, usually sometime that night i will get mad over something stupid. But usually i can come to a rationale before it gets out of control.

 

[tmass22]

I took a year off, and that is the longest i have been off in a long time. Started back with a 100mg Tren eod and 500 mg test ew cycle and have noticed a big change. I get bent with my girl over dumb shit and by the time I realize whats up its a huge fight.

 

[micksnowdog]

this is a post from another site. this poor cunt is all fucked up.

i been juicing a long time on/ off too. on or off, i dont get depressed so much as just inner unrest. i could overtrain until the muscles rip off the bone. but of course the pain stops that. i want to do something , i dont know what, but nothing ever satifies. rec drugs make all this go away for an hour or so , but then it comes back . your lucky the test even works for sex after that long. i can use alot of test but still not be able to '' finish '' when others are present. i dont even think of women anymore, just young thai men.{ i used to seriously hate homos growing up}. can fuck but cant cum with any of them. even with viagra. i use pills to sleep , to fuck , to lift. this is not what i had in mind.....but anyway at least i can still have my steroids i guess. sometimes i feel like giving up and checking out. if you can stay off and get back to normal it is not so bad bro.

 

[bluetoolpaul]

this is a post from another site. this poor cunt is all fucked up.

i been juicing a long time on/ off too. on or off, i dont get depressed so much as just inner unrest. i could overtrain until the muscles rip off the bone. but of course the pain stops that. i want to do something , i dont know what, but nothing ever satifies. rec drugs make all this go away for an hour or so , but then it comes back . your lucky the test even works for sex after that long. i can use alot of test but still not be able to '' finish '' when others are present. i dont even think of women anymore, just young thai men.{ i used to seriously hate homos growing up}. can fuck but cant cum with any of them. even with viagra. i use pills to sleep , to fuck , to lift. this is not what i had in mind.....but anyway at least i can still have my steroids i guess. sometimes i feel like giving up and checking out. if you can stay off and get back to normal it is not so bad bro.

Uh, I don't know if steroids played a role in his latent homosexuality coming to the forefront but, damn, ur right, that guy is all f'd up in the head. I would highly advise that guy take a COMPLETE break of any aas and go see a psychiatrist asap.

 

[micksnowdog]

maybe a bullet? imagine how scary your life would become if one day you woke up and could only think of banging thai boys in the dot.

 

[chordz]

I guess I never really noticed when I was heavy into gear use, as can be expected I suppose, thats a side effect. Your so into you own little world you just dont notice.

I know guys hate to admit it, but its there. I just see it now on my friends who use since Im no longer using.

Never heard my friend utter negative word about his wife before. Now its all he can do to talk to her. Constantly making her cry.

Another friend just seems more cocky. Again, I suppose to be expected, and he doesnt do it with me, but in general hes just a dick to other people.

And NO, Im not talking they cause roid rage and make you stab you girl to death.

Im just saying theres some very distinct pyschological changes that go on.

Im sure everyone is different, naturally. And not all are affected the same.

Not really making a point and just kinda rambling.

But anyway, just saying.............................

Have you completely stopped using gear?

 

[scotty too hotty]

I notice the effect on personality and my mood. This is part of the reason most people keep using, because steroids make you feel good, and more healthy. As far as the anger thing though, when on I'm actually more calm, because I keep myself in check. It's like driving when you're stoned, you go the speed limit and you're checking everything out before you do it. When I'm off, I straight up tell people how I feel right away, which oftentimes would be considered rude.

 

[DaveTSI]

the only aas ive ever noticed a change in mood was tren. my girlfriend hated me while i was on it. it also took every ounce of will power in me to keep from breaking my bosses jaw on a few different occasions, and im not like that at all usually.

 

[swole]

it's definitely a roller coaster at times but i consider myself a pretty stable person

however i let things get to me easier on test

limit estrogen helps, Dermacrine helps on any cycle as well as mast and aromasin

most of the time i'm smiling ear to ear but when something is off balance it ends up in moods swings and/or anxiety

 

[Nelson Montana]

Any hormonal flux can affect mood. A healthy T liver will improve mood.

Extreme dosages aside, (which will increase aggression, due to e as well as T), we have to realize that one's core personality is at play here.

Ever see a guy study martial arts and 2 months later he's looking to pick a fight with someone? Is that the fault of the martial art or just the fact that the guy is a dick and has an increased sense of self confidence? That's what happens.

As far as other drugs, ESPECIALLY VET DRUGS, there are all sorts of chemical imbalances which we can't even comprehend.

So I will repeat the "Nelson montra" once again -- Stick with low dose test and Primobolan. You can't go wrong. Incidentally, that's apparently what A-Rod likes!

 

[Cardinal Slin]

I put up a post like this and get warned...

Of course they have side effects, of course hormones play effects on and affects mood and behaviour.

 

[Bridger]

I put up a post like this and get warned...

Of course they have side effects, of course hormones play effects on and affects mood and behaviour.

Hormones have a lot to do with our neurotransmitters. Which have a strong impact on our moods/behavior. If I recall correctly, its early still and im half asleep, testosterone can directly affect dopmaine levels. Dopamine problems can cause anxiety, agitation, restlessness, etc. It is foolish to think putting hormones in your body won't affect how your body functions

 

[ConanX]

With Test, I felt much more confident and sometimes, I'd be a bit of a jerk.

I asked my brother who is close to me what he noticed. He just said I was much more serious and at times, I'd be a bit arrogant but he didn't detect any "roid rage." I maybe got a little more aggressive than normal, but nothing to write about.

You just feel like a king all day. I think it's a mix of the steroid's properties, and the fact that I was getting more jacked by the day and kept getting complements and looks.

I have a few friends who took Tren though and said they get pretty pissed off when on it.

 

[bblazer]

This is exactly why I have stayed away from one of the roids that would fit me and my goals perfectly - Halo. Be it real, or bro-ology, I just love my kids and wife too much to play with what might be fire. I am a little hot headed and short tempered as well, so I think that adds even more to the powder keg.

B-

 

[the_alcatraz]

I get very moody on juice, specifically on pharma grade test. Apart from the shit that comes along with the test flu, sometimes I feel really down for no reason, tired and un-happy. Other times, the test makes me feel a certain high.

I agree with what Swole said - it's a roller coaster

 

[needtogetaas]

I put up a post like this and get warned...

Of course they have side effects, of course hormones play effects on and affects mood and behaviour.

Yes but you presented it like a fucking asshole. Big deference. You did it like you were declaring to the steroid world you were its no master and commander in chef. Your thread was arrogant and galaxy's was just well talking normal. Think about that. Maybe you were taking to much steroids when ya made the post lmao.

 

[needtogetaas]

it's definitely a roller coaster at times but i consider myself a pretty stable person

however i let things get to me easier on test

limit estrogen helps, Dermacrine helps on any cycle as well as mast and aromasin

most of the time i'm smiling ear to ear but when something is off balance it ends up in moods swings and/or anxiety

Hell ya derma helps. Makes you feel like a happy guy all day.. I take my test I take my derma and I try not to ban the whole site just kidding but really dermacrine is great during cycle. pm for discounts!!!!!

 

[bivk]

I'm naturally an asshole at certain times and cannot stand certain types of personalities. But when I'm on a cycle I feel great and can get depressed pretty quickly when I'm off.

 

[Big A]

if my GF talks about previuos boyfriends i go ape shit and flip out, i get so fuking angry and it just keeps running through my head over and over

 

[lartinos]

same guys who say they don't affect their moood are the same ones who complain about their GF's being emotional around her period.

 

[Cardinal Slin]

Yes but you presented it like a fucking asshole. Big deference. You did it like you were declaring to the steroid world you were its no master and commander in chef. Your thread was arrogant and galaxy's was just well talking normal. Think about that. Maybe you were taking to much steroids when ya made the post lmao.

When you read three or four posts in a row from members telling other members how much dianabol to take with winstrol and how much test to take or how much nolva to take with deca and a few days later you see these same people asking for advice about their first cycle, then yep, you will get annoyed over people's claims...

No offence Needto but there are like 1000 Chiefs to 10 Indians on the anabolic board...

People need to humble up and accept they don't know everything and perhaps listen up and read up rather than posting up about what others should and shouldn't do... Especially when many of these people have only ever done a max of one cycle or so on.

If you refer back to my post, you will see the respect I displayed in it until people started shouting and swearing rather than having a descent conversation/discussion.

 

[needtogetaas]

When you read three or four posts in a row from members telling other members how much dianabol to take with winstrol and how much test to take or how much nolva to take with deca and a few days later you see these same people asking for advice about their first cycle, then yep, you will get annoyed over people's claims...

No offence Needto but there are like 1000 Chiefs to 10 Indians on the anabolic board...

People need to humble up and accept they don't know everything and perhaps listen up and read up rather than posting up about what others should and shouldn't do... Especially when many of these people have only ever done a max of one cycle or so on.

If you refer back to my post, you will see the respect I displayed in it until people started shouting and swearing rather than having a descent conversation/discussion.

We have plenty of Indians and your assessment of 1000 to 10 is a grotesque overstatement. This is why people did not take well to you. Some one who knows something should not help another who don't because they do not know enough by your standards.

I have seen you yourself give advice and then turn around and ask for advice. Think about that.

 

[Cardinal Slin]

We have plenty of Indians and your assessment of 1000 to 10 is a grotesque overstatement. This is why people did not take well to you. Some one who knows something should not help another who don't because they do not know enough by your standards.

I have seen you yourself give advice and then turn around and ask for advice. Think about that.

You are failng to see my point...

Of course I have asked for advice and of course I have given it... I have given advice based on my experience and from being around these boards for almost a decade. I do not give advice on items/topics I know little about and hence that's when I ask for advice.

This is not the comparison I gave above... People telling others what to do and then later it's discovered those people handing out advice don't even know the basics of steroid use - this is fact, not opinion.

Nolva and deca = a no go - it's that simple... and that's just one point.

Where's Wulfgar at? There are a few people that need to remain here and he is one of them.

 

[needtogetaas]

You are failng to see my point...

Of course I have asked for advice and of course I have given it... I have given advice based on my experience and from being around these boards for almost a decade. I do not give advice on items/topics I know little about and hence that's when I ask for advice.

This is not the comparison I gave above... People telling others what to do and then later it's discovered those people handing out advice don't even know the basics of steroid use - this is fact, not opinion.

Nolva and deca = a no go - it's that simple... and that's just one point.

Where's Wulfgar at? There are a few people that need to remain here and he is one of them.

Well yes with any board you will get people like that. Policing it on such a big board is not a easy task. Its takes a whole team of people.

wulfgar is one of our mentors. We enjoy having him when he is around. When you do see some one giving advice about something you think they know nothing about. well then


http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/give-advice-you-feel-right-623090.html

Call them on it in a respectful manner. No ones going to hate you for it slin. But what this board will never take kindly to is condescending people with a chip on there shoulder and a I'm the bad as who knows it all swagger in there step.

You want to do your part to help police this board? You want to spend 17 hours a day, hell you want to spend even 3-5 hours a day helping? Let me know and I can arrange that.

No ones going to listen to some one who is talking down to them and acting like a jerk though.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Everyone should just play nice...maybe it's the clomid

 

[Cardinal Slin]

Everyone should just play nice...maybe it's the clomid

LOL - no issues here...

That was a discussion that started well and ended well.

No severe flames or disrepect shown.

 

[galaxy]

Have you completely stopped using gear?

No, but nothing like before. Pretty much I do my 150mgs TRT but currently Ive upped it to 200mgs and added in 25mgs to 50mgs dbol ed as Im going to Florida for vacation in a few weeks and wanted to be in a little better shape then I am now. Also doing some clenbuterol. Just figured vacation would give me a good excuse or goal to get in a little better shape..

 

[needtogetaas]

LOL - no issues here...

That was a discussion that started well and ended well.

No severe flames or disrepect shown.

True.

 

[galaxy]

Given out too much status bro. I see about 2 chiefs on these forums. N2 and BRR. Just stay true and dont impose you will and it will come through to the members.

 

[perryscoon]

I guess I never really noticed when I was heavy into gear use, as can be expected I suppose, thats a side effect. Your so into you own little world you just dont notice.

I know guys hate to admit it, but its there. I just see it now on my friends who use since Im no longer using.

Never heard my friend utter negative word about his wife before. Now its all he can do to talk to her. Constantly making her cry.

Another friend just seems more cocky. Again, I suppose to be expected, and he doesnt do it with me, but in general hes just a dick to other people.

And NO, Im not talking they cause roid rage and make you stab you girl to death.

Im just saying theres some very distinct pyschological changes that go on.

Im sure everyone is different, naturally. And not all are affected the same.

Not really making a point and just kinda rambling.

But anyway, just saying.............................

Absolutely true. They definitely effect mood, especially at high doses. I do not like the way I feel on high doses so I stick to longer low dose cycles and it works just as well imho.

Oh and Anavar, which is supposed to be a weak steroid with no sides DOES effect me at 80mg ED. I was having trouble sleeping at that dose so I went back to 60mg and now I'm fine.

 

[needtogetaas]

Given out too much status bro. I see about 2 chiefs on these forums. N2 and BRR. Just stay true and dont impose you will and it will come through to the members.

thank you

 

[10001110101]

i agree with galaxy.

as long as you are paying attention to how you're acting and still able to keep yourself together it can have a positive impact on your life, i've been able to handle a lot more work and stay focused on tasks as well as appreciate a lot of the beauty in life while on gear.

of course just like anything it can fuck with your head i'd imagine.

i've noticed that 95% of the time it makes me calmer and more balanced and happy, but every now and again it just makes me not give a fuck about how i'm acting and the "filter" gets turned off and i just act like a jackass.

i cant say this never happens when i'm not on either, probably just the severity and frequency is more when on.

i think even normal/optimal physiological levels of test can have this effect. it's why dudes get wasted and break bar stools over people's heads. it's why perfectly normal non-aas users beat their wives.

as a male you must know your own hormones and how they can cause mood swings (we've all been too arrogant or an asshole, or a pissy little bitch because of our natural hormone flux at some point and we've had to learn to control our actions, one of the responsibilities of being a member of any society)

as an AAS user you must pay attention to how each AAS effects you and proceed with caution in any emotional/stressful situation.

it's been said before but it bears repeating, if aas use is causing instability and problems in your personal or work relationships then you need to seriously reconsider using them, but you already knew that!