Steroid gains for Transgendered male

[mr.nitro]

I have a ftm friend (not like that really answers any of your questions though)

but anyway I would not worry about your testosterone level being per. messed up, because its 100% controled by the amount you inject. if you take say 500mg per week of test then later drop down to your normal hormone replacement dose you will get the same blood test results you had always gotten.

if I where you I would up the testosterone drasticly, and add deca for 12 week cycles.

 

[chazk]

what people do not get it that alot of men could have blood drawn and appear to be female and alot of females can have blood drawn and appear on paper to be male.
despite what sexual organs they have.
alot more is invloved with the endosystem besides gentials in the make up of one sexuality.
men being castrated can still produce testosterone in via the andrenal cortex
just as women produce testosterone and do not have testicals

Its very intersting how we consider what makes a " man" a man and a women a "women"
When both men and women produce the same hormones just in different ratio's

I think first of all testosterone is very important for you at this age and no your not to young being 20 ,you just need to have the right dose to help with gaining more manly traits such as facial hair,muscle tone,jaw structure.
all of these things in a normal male are cuased by increased testosterone from the ages 12- 23 during puberty.

I think i might be speculating but your prob just trying to become more of a male or what the public considers "male" wich in your case it to bulk up and gain muscle.
When men work out and lift weight we increase or testosterone outputs so thus you would have to increase your testosterone injection to achieve a level or a normal bulking male.
you mentioned the weight gain if your getting fat then you are ingesting to many calories does not matter that you upped your testosterone some that just the way it is.
also your worried about the testosterone turning into estrogen it will happen but you have had all your breast tissue removed so gyno is no worry.
i think your scared that the a little increase in estrogen will make your start to become more " female " It wont.

but all in all I'm not educated to even talk about any of this becuase i just dont know I dont want to bullshit and act like i know.Becuase i dont

I do know that you have gained 14lbs and have testosterone in the normal range of a "male" Taking a little extra testosterone prob wont be a problem from your doctor just explain to him the situation and he will prob help out.

 

[georgie24]

Id leave this up to the professional MD's. nobody here is qualified enough to give you a concrete answer

 

[Bulk me up]

Thanks lanky for all the info. Theres alot to read and digest there, I was just checkin in quickly today so I'll have a proper read of it later and come back with any Q's.

Just to clarify something for everyone, I'm not 20, I'm actually in my 30's, so well past puberty (unfortunately!). This is why I feel I need to 'catch up' cos if I was born with the right amount of T I would be ahead of where I am now.

chazk - I'm not scared that my E levels increasing would cause me to be more female per say. What I am concerned about is I don't want to bump my T up and then find that it has some kind of rebound effect which means I end up with more E and therefore lose all the muscle I've gained and then some. I already have the facial hair,muscle tone,jaw structure etc. I just want bigger muscles, I always have. Just like most guys who start training because they're skinny, I just want to add some more size. I love to lift...jesh I even plan my holidays around my gym schedual, its just that I have this added complication.

I'm concerned health-wise in terms of cancer etc caused by the fact I still have some female tissue i.e ovaries/cervix hidden in there and what the hormones will do long term. Which is why I want to research as much as I can to weigh it all up.

My Endo Doc is good and has been helpful in discussing my concerns, but he is chiefly concerned with making sure that the dose I am on is high enough to cause the masculinization but will also cause minimum risk (cancer, blood pressure, Polycythemia). He would see any increase for muscle building as 'cosmetic' and not medical, alot of non-lifters don't really get the whole muscle building thing do they. Also if he thinks I'm abusing the meds he might stop them, FTM treatment by the professionals is not always the best and I'd like to keep him onside.

I think this is a usful thread because there are lots of FTMs out there who lift, but most would prob not post on these kind of forums for fear of abuse. As for myself, well whatever it takes for me to find out what I need to know and if it helps to enlighten a few people in the process so much the better.

Opps gotta go..I'm late now..

 

[AAP]

Despite how the thread first started, this thread has been by far one of the most interesting discussions we have had on this board in a long time.

I am very interested in seeing how the results (6 weeks to 6 months) will turn out in whatever decisions are made.

I would also like for you to share any information that your current MD is giving you with us because with him/her being the most qualified individual in this area bar none (including everyone on here), I am sure we can all learn something new in regards to our own bodies in the information that you receive from the doctor. Please keep us updated and let us know if you are suggesting any advice you receive on here to him and what his response is.

 

[Papa Lion]

there's an MD that posts over on another board... muscletalk.co.uk he's "thedoc"

 

[BigCracker]

Delete the thread - problem solved.

WHo gives a shit about a non-paying member..... they are leeches.

I think George would disagree-especially if the non paying members purchase stuff from site sponsors. Now I feel so insignificant being a non-platy. I'm going to go wank to my Rupaul fan site now.

 

[blackthunder]

I think George would disagree-especially if the non paying members purchase stuff from site sponsors. Now I feel so insignificant being a non-platy. I'm going to go wank to my Rupaul fan site now.

help a brother out, post a link to the Rupaul site!!!

 

[timtim]

i would think you could have your doc work with you on this one. you could describe what you have in mind and see if he/she is willing to work along side with you.

if not, i would think you could still keep this doc and find an hrt doc in your area who would be willing to work with you. the hrt doc probably wont prescribe anything but he/she could work along side with you while you experiment with different dosages.

 

[AAP]

I think George would disagree-especially if the non paying members purchase stuff from site sponsors. Now I feel so insignificant being a non-platy. I'm going to go wank to my Rupaul fan site now.

You can thank the Plats and their membership for having an attorney on hand 24/7 at EF. Sort of came in handy a couple years ago when George was getting hit by supeanos left and right by the feds about giving up access to member info on here.

Because of Plat memberships, legal counsel was able to make the courts tell the feds to go fuck off.