--staying on for 6 months, how much danger?

[bigdho]

i don't care if he did go to the doctor for frequent checkups. telling a 23 year old that 6 months ain't shit isn't too professional in my book. he could say well shit sense 6 months ain't jack then why not more. yes, you can go longer than 6 months but, imo, if he's having to come on here and ask that question then no i don't think he should at this point. myself right now am running a 3500mg/week cycle for 20weeks. but but i have everything at my fingertips as far as med. help and supervision. it took me a very long time to be able to preform the types of runs that i do. and i sure didn't know it when i was 23. and by the way are we telling a young man to do what coleman and cutler do? well now thats brilliant.

Ill give you that. I guess it comes down to personal goals and risks your willing to take. You only have so much time in this sport till your body says FU. Im just telling him the same thing that was told to me. Im 27 and that is how I was told to cycle by a BBer who competed in the olympia. One of the other things Phil said when cycling like that is to not go over 1500mg EW and once you platue on what your useing you cut the dose in half and cruz for a couple of weeks then you ramp back up useing completly different gear all the while running HCG at 500iu 2xs a week and get blood work done every four months. So you can see if you follow the plan correctly its not a big deal. In fact one could argue that jacking 3500mg of AAS for 5 months (if you asked most bbers they would tell you that is way to much)then comming off would be harder on your body then running 1500mg all the way through

 

[bigtravis]

Ill give you that. I guess it comes down to personal goals and risks your willing to take. You only have so much time in this sport till your body says FU. Im just telling him the same thing that was told to me. Im 27 and that is how I was told to cycle by a BBer who competed in the olympia. One of the other things Phil said when cycling like that is to not go over 1500mg EW and once you platue on what your useing you cut the dose in half and cruz for a couple of weeks then you ramp back up useing completly different gear all the while running HCG at 500iu 2xs a week and get blood work done every four months. So you can see if you follow the plan correctly its not a big deal. In fact one could argue that jacking 3500mg of AAS for 5 months (if you asked most bbers they would tell you that is way to much)then comming off would be harder on your body then running 1500mg all the way through

thats why i use alot of short lifed compounds such as npp, prop, and tren. along with orals. the only long ones are sust. and cyp. so when i do platue it's like a tremendous shock to my system when i drop for a few weeks but the sust. is still in there. this happened last year and it worked great. yeah, most would say that it's way too much but would they tell you the absolute truth as to what they do?

 

[bigdho]

LOL, thats no shit. It seems you never get a straight answer from most. I can see you have thought your cycle out well. I guess its just which way you prefer and what goals you have and risks you want to take. But back to the topic Id say the boy should come off and run proper PCT since he hasnt prepared to be on all the time take a good 4-5 months off and decide at that point where to go from there.

 

[bigtravis]

i still say do the 6-6 or 8-8 fornow. or at best do a 12 weeker and do a 5 week pct then go back at it again.

 

[Gman1]

a friend of mine whos 21 now, said he started at 15, and he was like always on tren and basically anything else he could get his hands on, not saying that was good, if anything that was reallly badddd for him, but he still managed to knock his old lady up when he turned 20...aaaaaaaa how cute, BTW, most kids turn out to be male when your on... just something to keep in mind. hahahha

 

[gymratforlife]

I am about to turn 29 next month and have been cycling on/off for 3 years now since I came back to the gym after a 9 year layoff.I can tell you that I hit a good 3g per week dose for about 5 weeks and that was enough to make a shitload of hair fall off my head and I never had a single hair fall off at around 1.5g of gear a week.The point about not going above 1.5g seems like a very good guideline to follow.I know I will never go above 1500mg per week again and actually stay on 500mg of test for most of the year from now on.Everyone is different so what works for me might not work for others,this is just what I feel is safe and sane for me to grow on and be healthy.I also run HCG through the cycle randomly.

 

[Ozz2001]

i still say do the 6-6 or 8-8 fornow. or at best do a 12 weeker and do a 5 week pct then go back at it again.

Now that quote makes more sence to me....12 weeks 5 off...

After 12 weeks i didnt see much more gain anyways so why keep spending more money for? So my question is if your on for 6 months that means what?
You have to keep raising your dose up higher and higher correct? or keep changing up gear to see gains? Do i stand correct on this theory?

Also whats the sence in running 500 of test for a hole year for? Wouldnt that be like drinking beer? After awhile your taking it in but its doing nothing for you?

 

[1392477]

Your too young to f&*K up your body and suffer the consequenses the rest of your life. Be smart - everything in moderation, especially if you don't know how your body will react. Growth comes from rest and your body is gonna need plenty of rest on a cycle that long.

Break it up and give your body a break in between. Be patient and you will get the results you want in due time.

 

[Ulter]

There are an awful lot of people on this thread who don't know what they're talking about. I wish people would post based on medical literature and not what they heard at the gym.

Staying on will have no affect on your ability to have children. It will have no long or short term affect on your health. It will not increase your side effects. So to sum it up there is no reason to not go to six months. You'll be fine.

 

[gymratforlife]

There are an awful lot of people on this thread who don't know what they're talking about. I wish people would post based on medical literature and not what they heard at the gym.

Staying on will have no affect on your ability to have children. It will have no long or short term affect on your health. It will not increase your side effects. So to sum it up there is no reason to not go to six months. You'll be fine.

Thank you sooooo much for a correct quote.Also all your doing by cycling and going off then cycling again is putting your body through a yoyo effect flooding it with hormones then shutting it down and turning on your natural hormone production again,too much of a rolercoaster to your body.At this point I can still make small and steady gains on 500mg test per week year round.Ive been on for over 7 months and I am getting some of my best gains in the cycle now that I switched gears.If I am still making great gains why am I going to stop?Stop for what to do pct and lose a bunch of my gains and feel like shit when I can keep getting leaner and bigger steadily?