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--staying on for 6 months, how much danger?

Exosist said:
interesting how many different opinions I am hearing.

You are answering from a medical point of view...... Is this correct?



Long time user and a long time since i have frequented a board. My 2 cents is eveyone is disposed to diferent sides. Not having kids is rarely an issue, yes over time you will lower your sperm count drastically but this will return to normal with time after you stop using. Other health issues should be of more concern. I saw an eamil recommending getting your blood checked, good idea especially when using orals, and really a good habit to have done once a year.

Tests:
Liver panel
LDL/HDL panel (Cholesterol Panel)
make sure the do a complete blood panel (red blood cell count, thickness)

Good Luck
 
IRONBULL05 said:
Hey travis ,calm down bro.No one told him to up the doses and stay on forever.He asked about a 6 month cycle.Yes if done correctly,a 6 month cycle is safe.Getting checked out by a doctor while on was recommended.Shit man,you sound like all the media ,and gov't people screaming AAS kill!!! 23 is young to start AAS,but he's already started,so lets help him out with the right info,not just "Your too young kid"
Good advice MU!!
Hope this helped exosist.
Good luck bro.
i was trying to help him out. but what kills me is that i realize that we got alot of dumbass people responding to give advise but not from experience but from taking stuff from columns they've read. but asfar as me sounding like the media. that couldn't be further from the truth. but if it were thin i guess i'm the biggest fuckin hypocrite on the face of the earth. aparently you have not read some of the posts on the cycles that i run throughout the year and for what duration. so lets see now if he were to say that he was thinking on killing himself. would you say it would be o.k. to tell him the best way to do it. and i did post more than just saying "your too young" on this.
 
OlyFit said:
Long time user and a long time since i have frequented a board. My 2 cents is eveyone is disposed to diferent sides. Not having kids is rarely an issue, yes over time you will lower your sperm count drastically but this will return to normal with time after you stop using. Other health issues should be of more concern. I saw an eamil recommending getting your blood checked, good idea especially when using orals, and really a good habit to have done once a year.

Tests:
Liver panel
LDL/HDL panel (Cholesterol Panel)
make sure the do a complete blood panel (red blood cell count, thickness)

Good Luck

thank you, I was wondering what test I need.
 
bigtravis said:
then i'll leave it up to them to give smart advise. i'm done posting thread's on this forum for a while. ulter is right, there is alot of people on here that do not know what they are talking about. :wavey:
LoL no one is saying that is good for a 21 year old Kid to stay on for a year or that you dont give good advice bro calm down.I am just saying from my own personal experiences that I have had much better results staying on for a period of over 4 months than when I have done small cycles.As far as these guys giving the best advice well they are a lot older than most on this board and not only older but know what they are doing obviously by their physical achievements over the years so yes they do give excellent advice.Dont take my posts the wrong way were all here to learn and every1 has the right to their opinions.Me personally I think 3500mg of gear is a waste but I am not going to go knocking on the next guy for doing it.
 
o.k. i'm settimg the record straight. to all who don't know. i've been using gear for just over 18 years now. my advise isn't coming mostly from books. it's from experience. no, i'm not some little 175 pounder giving advise on here. right now i'm 264lbs. 5-11" 11% bf 36yrs old. first learned about the stuff from ray mentzer when i worked for him at future fitness in redondo bch. now, if i had known then what i know now. i wouldn't have started that young. he even told me so. but i did it anyway. now i believe that i would have made better gains than i did if i had waited a little longer on what i was doing.
 
bigtravis said:
o.k. i'm settimg the record straight. to all who don't know. i've been using gear for just over 18 years now. my advise isn't coming mostly from books. it's from experience. no, i'm not some little 175 pounder giving advise on here. right now i'm 264lbs. 5-11" 11% bf 36yrs old. first learned about the stuff from ray mentzer when i worked for him at future fitness in redondo bch. now, if i had known then what i know now. i wouldn't have started that young. he even told me so. but i did it anyway. now i believe that i would have made better gains than i did if i had waited a little longer on what i was doing.
lol to set the record straight I am not 175.I am 180 at 9% bf and did this in 3 years from 246 lbs and probably around 40% bf.Yes I have messed around juice since 94 when I was 18 years old I ran about 3-4 cycles then went off to the military and never touched another weight for a good 7 years and came back to the gym a fat out of shape slob and built this temple in less than 3 years.Obviously I have a little bit of knowledge and experience around this crap.Could I be a lot bigger,definetly.Do I want to be?At this point I dont so I dont do big cycles.So if you were pointing that canon at me with the 175 coment look before you point bud. :chomp:
 
gymratforlife said:
5'11 and 264 with 11% bf is IFBB pro size.I would love to see some pictures btw.
first off i wasn't pointing it at you and i would love to put pics and i will when i get home in a month. trust me i'll remember. it'll be better than right now. :)
 
I've never done a cycle that long but I have a buddy of mine who does 6 month cycles and loves it. He takes Deca and Test Suspension (not sure of the exact amounts). Deca dick is a definate with a cycle that long and it takes him a while to bounce back from it. God only knows what it does to his liver though, thats the primary reason I don't stay on that long. Milk thistle only does so much. It's a risk that can be beneficial or detremental in my opinion. Goodluck tho and keep us posted I'm interested to see how it works out!
 
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