Starting over

[stevesmi]

i know a guy who never worked out and jumped on AAS. built up some mass.. then lost IT ALL after. why? cause he didn't know how to eat and train. just a waste of money and time.

 

[Ranger11B]

pussy is a powerful thing... and its effin delicious... do what you will bro I just think youll get better results and be on your game putting the juice to beter use. good luck

 

[Deltoid_87]

i know a guy who never worked out and jumped on AAS. built up some mass.. then lost IT ALL after. why? cause he didn't know how to eat and train. just a waste of money and time.

And this is the case for most... Eventually they learn the hard way, or just give up altogether in the end because they're too damn stubborn to listen and learn.. i mean if u still can't do it after steroids lets face it there's just no hope for u, unless u change the way ur doing things!
Seen it happen. See it happening all the time. More and more people are using steroids these days without knowing how to eat and train... They turn to steroids as a "last resort" gain 10lbs of water think its mostly muscle continue training and eating the way they do.. come off, lose it.. Back to where they were, maybe with a little more fat and puffy nips. Then cycle again. and lose it again. I know guys who have been cycling for a while and look no better than they did before they started.

Knowledge is everything! Don't be the 50yr old guy saying "if only I knew 20 years ago what I know now..."

 

[thewhiz7]

I know I don't have a high post count but still feel the need to chime in. OP, I got to 197 @11% body fat about 13-14 months ago. I then had some pain in my abs and the doc found I had 3 hernias. Long story short after my surgery I fell down to 148. I couldn't eat well and of course I couldn't workout. I started working out in late Oct of last year at 148. I got back to 190 before the end of the year. Muscle memory is awesome. I didn't use one single supplement unless you count protein powder and a multi vitamin. If you are going to use gear at least wait a couple of months. You will waste the stuff on gains you will make naturally. I mean, if anyone had the choice of making gains at the same rate would they do it naturally or on cycle? If you lift and eat you will make fast gains to upper 180's in no time. Your strength will come back at a crazy fast rate as well. Eat and lift my friend. Good luck.

 

[Zyglamail]

Well I wanna get to about 205lbs. I'm 6' tall and 145lbs. Been skinny most of my life. I was using steroids to get to 190lbs before. Also don't have a appetite like I use to and I remember deca making me eat like a horse.

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So do you plan on staying on gear the rest of your life? If not, whats the point? If you cant get their on your own or stay there once AAS helped ya get there, then your just gonna lose it again.

At 6' tall you should be able to naturally get to and maintain a bodyweight over 200 and if you cant you need to spend more time learning how to do that or AAS is a waste of your time.

 

[WinnyPumps]

Well I wanna get to about 205lbs. I'm 6' tall and 145lbs. Been skinny most of my life. I was using steroids to get to 190lbs before. Also don't have a appetite like I use to and I remember deca making me eat like a horse.

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At 6' and 145lbs I would recommend steak, cheeseburgers, and heavy lifting. That is super skinny.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Eat, train, sleep...repeat

 

[jdavis74]

Well I'm gonna follow everyone's advice. Just wondering if my gear will still b good when I'm ready for it. Also its kinda confusing because I have friends that are not on any forums that say I need to cycle. They have cycled and kept their gains. But u guys have more experience so I'm gonna take the advice given. Any other help will b greatly appreciated. Thanks bro's.

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[Unrest]

You need to learn how to eat. It's that simple. Getting full? Get over it, eat more.

Ahmen

 

[stevesmi]

what Zyglamail said above sums it up perfectly.

he knows 100X more about AAS then your friends.

I hope you take his advice. it will pay off in the long run so you aren't back here in a year or two saying the same thing you are now.