Ok then Here's update 4:
Well I'm growing while losing a little bit of fat at the same time. Not like tren tho.
More growth and less fat loss. I will be using this again for sure. With mast I think. Maybe Ment mast and primo. That'd be sweeeeet
It also feels very androgenic. I get just as pissed as on tren or halo. I'm not enough of an asshole to take it out on anyone happily.
Even tho I'm on hrt i got some HMG lined up for after. Think i'll follow Nelson's hrt protocol to get what natty production i still got in me back on track.