Started my cycle today. :D

[Deleted member 33117]

Gave my low dose letro a week to kick in, switched to intermittent fasting/leangains diet on Saturday (put me back up to 219 from water eating all these carbs as I had been on CKD).

I was going to run 500mg of Organon test ena for 20 weeks then taper down to one amp for awhile (again over 35 wife and I do not want kids right now etc) on my cut/recomp/pre for powerlifting meet(s)... but I kicked started it on some winny I had.

Test ena 500mg 1-20
Winny (oral) 40mg a day for weeks 1-3 (I have 100 10mg tabs on hand was this or dbol and I get them the same price, so winny seemed a better choice).
Letro: 200mcg eod.

Simple, cheap and legal. First cycle since 2004, first jab went smooth as can be in my left quad. Wish me luck, brosephs.

 

[JuiceIsMyFriend]

Good luck. Keep us updated on how the winny does. About to run same thing with eq and maybe tren

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Good luck. Keep us updated on how the winny does. About to run same thing with eq and maybe tren

Will do, and yeah the winny I am not 100% certain is legit even though the supplier for it has a very good rep. The test amps are definately legit. I personally like the strength gains I get on winny and the much needed gains in strength from it will be very welcome whilst cutting and training for power while waiting on the test to kick in. I am more comfortable with it rather than adding in a 2nd compound (like dbol) subject to aromatase.

 

[JuiceIsMyFriend]

I hear that. Can't wait for an update

 

[Hit_the_weightS]

Are you going to do before and after pics?


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Pain is weakness leaving the Body

 

[Nelson Montana]

Winny and letro is not a great combo. Winny does not aromatize.

And I trust you're using N2GUARD?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Winny and letro is not a great combo. Winny does not aromatize.

And I trust you're using N2GUARD?

No but the test does. The winny is only the first 2-3 weeks to kickstart some strength gains on my longer test cycle. I have Meniere's disease (as mentioned in other threads... inner ear disorder which is impacted massively by fluid balance/retention) so need to keep water rention from my gear low to zero (along with my low sodium diet). My letro dose actually comes out to only around 700 mcg per week which is enough to keep water in check, but without some of the negative side effects that come with people high dosing this powerful drug.... for 30-40 cents a week.

No offense to the forum sponsors but suppliments like that are overpriced and a bit of a waste. Most of what it offers can be had with a good diet (I consume a lot of n-3 fats, huge amounts of broccoli and other fresh produce... that handles my cholesterol profile, and oxidative stress ;-)). I'm just not a fan of suppliments that cost more than the actual cycles do, never have been, never will be. If you personally feel it is worth the price tag and yields some benefit to you, I certainly cannot knock you, but I've worked in sales myself and a hard pitch isn't going to win me over. Something at that price tag better have a dozen independant peer reviews to spark my interest. I don't even use creatine.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Got a few reps for last post but no replies in the thread itself. LoL

Anywho, results thus far: I work part time at my gym and train on the clock. I found I did not want to stop doing sets after my regular workout so ended up doing tons of barbell rows and curls after my regular power-lifting training. I am up to 220 today, and my tri's and lats are killing me (today is off day). I want to train today but am sticking with the planned off day as Sat and Sun I am at the gym 5 hours on both days as I open the gym on the weekends, and tend to do a lot of training volume, so would like to be fresh for it.

I am wondering if switching to a high carb IF (doing Lean Gains) is impacting my weight, as I was up to 219 from eating more carbs prior to staring the cycle. I've been in a caloric deficit on all days yet am up 1 lbs since the day I started my gear. Yesterday I felt good energy wise and strength was up very slightly but my sex drive seemed lower than normal. Last night however I woke up twice in the night with morning wood and banged the wifey (who is now sleeping and recovering).

Going to up my winny to 50mg a day and use up what I have as a 3 week kickstart then stay on the test only (I have 100x10mg tabs). By the time my winny runs out, the test should be kicking in hard and I will be on my 3rd injection of 500mg.

I find it strange that I have gained a 1 lbs in 2 days given that my weight had stabilized on the higher carb intake, as the test should not really be kicking in yet, off the winstrol only unless it is simply due to increased glycogen uptake into my muscle tissue, as my sodium intake is fairly low and I am in a small caloric deficit.

Does anyone think that after 8 years being off the gear, my old muscle memory (keeping in mind my biceps measure 3" smaller than they did in 2004, and my chest 5-6" smaller), that my body is likely to put on a fair amount of my old muscle when cutting on my cycle, rather that just preserving it?

 

[Judo Tom]

it is probably glycogen.. muscle memory will definitely have an effect.. i was clean for years and my first cycle back was pretty sick and i didnt eat like a horse.. just big training and lots of protein

i know you want to cut but id eat a ton of protein if i was you.. i know you have diet issues and what not but if you can get 2g of protein or more per lb you will probably be really happy w/ the overall body change

Good Luck!

 

[Deleted member 33117]

it is probably glycogen.. muscle memory will definitely have an effect.. i was clean for years and my first cycle back was pretty sick and i didnt eat like a horse.. just big training and lots of protein

i know you want to cut but id eat a ton of protein if i was you.. i know you have diet issues and what not but if you can get 2g of protein or more per lb you will probably be really happy w/ the overall body change

Good Luck!

I would not expect to gain more than 1 lbs of muscle per week, which in terms of protein intake only takes an excess of 50g or so a day beyond what the body needs. Between the cost of lean protein in the UK, unless I getting that all via bulk mail order whey would run me upwards of $10us a day just for the protein... and would take up a huge amount of my caloric intake. However I will be shooting for 1g per lbs of bodyweight to play it safe. ;-)

Either way I just ordered an 11 lbs (5kg) tub of whey to add in as needed. LoL

 

[wootoom]

Good luck bro, look forward to seeing your results!

 

[C0LUMB0]

enjoy the cycle bro.

 

[Drewb]

Nice bro.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Up already, drinking my morning coffee (I open the gym on the weekends for the owner). Zero doms from my Thursday training (I was extremely sore yesterday). Weight same as yesterday, 220 lbs. I feel like I am 20 again.

Today will be deadlift ME day, and upper body volume work (probably going to superset 10x10 bench with 10x10 supinated barbell rows, and 5x10 incline curls with 5x10 dumbbell tricep extentions). Tomorrow will be squats and shoulders.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Up another lbs today, zero doms from 2 hours of lifting yesterday. In a caloric deficit but gaining weight. Wife said my muscles look bigger and my waist smaller last night.

Female powerlifter who only trains on weekends asked me how I lost so much fat in one week as I look leaner evenin my face from last weekend. Clearly recomping already. Winstrol has always been very powerful for me.

 

[JuiceIsMyFriend]

Up another lbs today, zero doms from 2 hours of lifting yesterday. In a caloric deficit but gaining weight. Wife said my muscles look bigger and my waist smaller last night.

Female powerlifter who only trains on weekends asked me how I lost so much fat in one week as I look leaner evenin my face from last weekend. Clearly recomping already. Winstrol has always been very powerful for me.

That's awesome bro. Keep that shit up. Cant wait to start mine

 

[RADAR]

I like lots of volume exercises also ,alot of people can't hang with me doing this, (shame on them) letting a 60 yr old toast em.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Got a few reps for last post but no replies in the thread itself. LoL

Anywho, results thus far: I work part time at my gym and train on the clock. I found I did not want to stop doing sets after my regular workout so ended up doing tons of barbell rows and curls after my regular power-lifting training. I am up to 220 today, and my tri's and lats are killing me (today is off day). I want to train today but am sticking with the planned off day as Sat and Sun I am at the gym 5 hours on both days as I open the gym on the weekends, and tend to do a lot of training volume, so would like to be fresh for it.

I am wondering if switching to a high carb IF (doing Lean Gains) is impacting my weight, as I was up to 219 from eating more carbs prior to staring the cycle. I've been in a caloric deficit on all days yet am up 1 lbs since the day I started my gear. Yesterday I felt good energy wise and strength was up very slightly but my sex drive seemed lower than normal. Last night however I woke up twice in the night with morning wood and banged the wifey (who is now sleeping and recovering).

Going to up my winny to 50mg a day and use up what I have as a 3 week kickstart then stay on the test only (I have 100x10mg tabs). By the time my winny runs out, the test should be kicking in hard and I will be on my 3rd injection of 500mg.

I find it strange that I have gained a 1 lbs in 2 days given that my weight had stabilized on the higher carb intake, as the test should not really be kicking in yet, off the winstrol only unless it is simply due to increased glycogen uptake into my muscle tissue, as my sodium intake is fairly low and I am in a small caloric deficit.

Does anyone think that after 8 years being off the gear, my old muscle memory (keeping in mind my biceps measure 3" smaller than they did in 2004, and my chest 5-6" smaller), that my body is likely to put on a fair amount of my old muscle when cutting on my cycle, rather that just preserving it?

Well, you admit you don;t like supplements and it's obvious you don't know how some of them work. And of course, you've never used the ones that are being recommended. Meanwhile hundreds of guys are saying they get great results. So what are you looking for? Someone to tell you what you want to hear? What's the point?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Well, you admit you don;t like supplements and it's obvious you don't know how some of them work. And of course, you've never used the ones that are being recommended. Meanwhile hundreds of guys are saying they get great results. So what are you looking for? Someone to tell you what you want to hear? What's the point?

I expect any suppliment I buy to cost no more than $5-10 a month (like my multi-vitamin and fish oil) and definately not cost more than my cycle. I have budget constrants or else you would see primo and var in my cycle. Cost to benefit ratio. Gear and ancillaries are legal to possess and cheap in the UK. I walk into a suppliment shop and there are things sitting on the shelf that cost more than my test and ai's. That has been my biggest issue since I started using gear over a decade ago with the suppliment industry. Now on the other hand if supp companies want to sponser me after my transformation that is fine, and I can't blame people who take suppliment sponsorships and promote them. It is a strong industry with a lot of profits to be made.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I like lots of volume exercises also ,alot of people can't hang with me doing this, (shame on them) letting a 60 yr old toast em.

Doing all my heavy power training first (1-5 rep), then doing my volume. Yesterday it took me about 3 hours to finish my routine. Heavy squats, close grip and floor presses + accessories, then a high volume full shoulder and bicep routine.

Only thing sore today are my traps. I've noticed the winny is keeping the doms at bay very nicely.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Second shot of test yesterday, and the winny is stating to do its job... getting leaner while gaining weight, up to around 221.8, bench and deadlift are both up this week, recovering more quickly, getting doms only in my traps, which seems to never go away, however they are also starting to look bigger.

 

[dahammer18]

definitely gona follow your cycle as id like to throw winny into my next cycle, only problem is the joint issues. what does your pct look like brother?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

definitely gona follow your cycle as id like to throw winny into my next cycle, only problem is the joint issues. what does your pct look like brother?

Probably not doing PCT. Gear is legal in the UK, my wife and I do not want children and I am 35... going to coast on test indefinately most likely or switch to a milder androgen and bridge here and there. I've previously done a year long cycle before and successfully recovered on nothing but aromasin and nolva 8 years ago, although it tooks a couple months to get completely normal again.

As I am only doing winny for 3 weeks the joint issues should not exhibit themselves.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Two weeks in. I weighed in at 224.5 lbs this morning, but look leaner and tighter (although still not in great shape). I have eaten over maintainence a couple days in the last few days, but have actually been at a slight caloric deficit most days. I have definately lost fat and gained muscle. My strength is continuing to increase.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I think my winny was fake. Sex drive is up, strength is up, weight is up. 226 lbs this morning I ran out of winny yesterday and today was my test to see if it was giving me strength gains. Set a 10lbs PR on bench and squat both this morning and felt like I could have added more weight. So no lose of strength, and in fact gained strength the day after coming off the winny. I didn't get the strength surge early on one would expect on 50mg of winny a day. I think the test is the only thing working in my system. If I continue to set more PR's over the coming week I'll know for sure that it is all test doing the job and my winny was not legit.

 

[Judo Tom]

if that is true it sux.. sorry to hear that.. but no point in worrying now.. the test is kicking in and you will be making gains

 

[gatemoney]

Good thread!

 

[Deleted member 33117]

if that is true it sux.. sorry to hear that.. but no point in worrying now.. the test is kicking in and you will be making gains

Yeah I gave their winny a try becuase I wanted to kickstart my cycle as my supplier was running late with my order so bought their cheap generic winny tabs (which ended up arriving same day as my amps) and they had already shipped me legit pharmacy AI's.

I got suspecious when I didn't see any real strength gains in week one on winny and my squat actually went down in week two... then BOOM! Week 3 (which seems about right for test ena to kick in) sex drive went up, I started to appear bigger and leaner and the weights started climbing.

Still it was very cheap so minimal loss of money and the test is all legit human pharma and is definately working. Bench up 30, squat 10, deadlifts 50, and I've gained 11 lbs (but look leaner and my weight lifting belt is looser and now out of notches) and I just took my 4th shot today of the test. It is good to be back.

My wife was pleased, a couple times today, with my results thus far. She has commented that she loves how much more "aggressive and dominant" I am in the bedroom and noted my body is getting harder as well.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Gaining weight at an absurd rate while trying to limit calories during my feed window by cutting back to a 4 hour window (doing lean gains IF style diet) and hitting 300g of protein a day. Adding more fiber through beans and such to fill me up faster, as I am actually trying to lean out a lot more. Up to 228.5 this morning, even though I am getting leaner (yet still lack any appreciable definition due to too much body fat). Have added 20 lbs to my bench, squat and deadlift PR's in the last week. Training six days a week, making sure to do heavy squat, deadlift and bench singles 3x a week, along with a 3x5 on barbell rows x3 a week. Taking a volume approach to other movements including: upright rows, dumbbell presses, dumbbell rows, front squats, good mornings, face pulls, incline curls, chinups, incline tricep extentions, ab work, calve raises etc. Every workout day starts with heavy powerlifting, with the fluff work only allowed after the heavy lifting.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Updating 1RM are stalling a bit so changing over to a 5x5 on all my compound movements for awhile. Up to 229, bench is up 55 lbs, squat 70 lbs and deadlift 110 lbs... my rows for reps are up around 60 lbs. In-laws and others are commenting that I seem to look thinner in the face or my waist smaller etc. Increasing calories for faster gains while continuing to recomp.

Overall being heavily detrained I must say 6 weeks on 500mg of test is like night and day. Gaining muscle, losing fat, recovering massively faster and my lifts are continuing to increase continually. My mood, sense of well being and even severity of my Meniere's vertigo attacks have all improved.

 

[RADAR]

I hope you're going past 6 week bec it's just starting to show it's benefirs!

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I hope you're going past 6 week bec it's just starting to show it's benefirs!

Oh definately. Was just an update. ;-)

 

[Deleted member 33117]

232, bodyfat still too high, but everyone says I am looking bigger, harder and leaner, wifey said my ass and hamstrings have less fat when she grabs them. Still making linear progressing on my lifts. My 5x5 setup I switched to, I am 5x5ing more weight than I could max for a single on squat, bench and deadlift in the 2nd week of my cycle. Even my barbell rows are up to 275 on my 5x5 with fairly strict form and pulling each rep from a dead hang. I am a little stronger literally every time I walk into the gym, training 6 days a week (push/pull 5x5/3x5 depending on which lift).

High carb IF on a bit of test seems to be working well for recomping. I am clearly losing small amounts of body fat while on a caloric surplus.

Having some major dental work done tomorrow and again next week so it will force me to deload a bit and take days out of the gym (but my teeth will be all sorted at the end) so have been pushing myself harder the last week. I have to say being over 30 and going back on test is like night and day in terms of my mood, sex drive, sense of well being, recovery from training etc... test is a miracle drug.

 

[hurricane]

Gave my low dose letro a week to kick in, switched to intermittent fasting/leangains diet on Saturday (put me back up to 219 from water eating all these carbs as I had been on CKD).

I was going to run 500mg of Organon test ena for 20 weeks then taper down to one amp for awhile (again over 35 wife and I do not want kids right now etc) on my cut/recomp/pre for powerlifting meet(s)... but I kicked started it on some winny I had.

Test ena 500mg 1-20
Winny (oral) 40mg a day for weeks 1-3 (I have 100 10mg tabs on hand was this or dbol and I get them the same price, so winny seemed a better choice).
Letro: 200mcg eod.

Simple, cheap and legal. First cycle since 2004, first jab went smooth as can be in my left quad. Wish me luck, brosephs.

why didnt u save the winny for the last 3 weeks to give u a semi finisher? although i dont think that is long enough, i still think its better then to front load 3 weeks.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

why didnt u save the winny for the last 3 weeks to give u a semi finisher? although i dont think that is long enough, i still think its better then to front load 3 weeks.

I was in a hurry to get started... over-eager beaver. Actually now that I am 35, married and the wife and I do not want children etc I will probably do the trt or bridging thing indefinately. I've noticed gear suppresses my vertigo attacks from Meneire's a lot as well, which makes sense given the corolation between cortisol levels and vertigo attacks and my bloodwork had been showing cortisol levels well above the normal range for over a year. Probably going to scale back and coast on 250mg a week before long and just keep an eye on my rbc, blood lipids etc. Gear is cheap and legal to possess/use here... plus I can probably get a script through NHS if I really tried.

Normally I agree with you though, winny at the end of a cycle is a great way to harden up gains and taper off the injectables immediately before PCT.

My overeagerness + my source being a week late with my shipment of test I overnighted some winny tabs and started the front load an hour before my test arrived at my front door. I think the winny was not legit anyway.

 

[hurricane]

I was in a hurry to get started... over-eager beaver. Actually now that I am 35, married and the wife and I do not want children etc I will probably do the trt or bridging thing indefinately. I've noticed gear suppresses my vertigo attacks from Meneire's a lot as well, which makes sense given the corolation between cortisol levels and vertigo attacks and my bloodwork had been showing cortisol levels well above the normal range for over a year. Probably going to scale back and coast on 250mg a week before long and just keep an eye on my rbc, blood lipids etc. Gear is cheap and legal to possess/use here... plus I can probably get a script through NHS if I really tried.

Normally I agree with you though, winny at the end of a cycle is a great way to harden up gains and taper off the injectables immediately before PCT.

My overeagerness + my source being a week late with my shipment of test I overnighted some winny tabs and started the front load an hour before my test arrived at my front door. I think the winny was not legit anyway.

i hear you bro! you where eager to jump back in the saddle!

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Gains are great but considering going back on some tren, and since I am going to stay on I feel I can run very low doses. My concern is test dosing. I am considering trt level test and then running 200mg of tren, which for me has always been enough to see amazing results. I have only pharma test amps. EOW injections can fluxate levels a bit for people on TRT but with the weekly tren ena it might be reasonable? Was thinking of one amp every 2 weeks, so 250mg of test every two weeks just to keep my sex drive up, and 200mg of tren ena a week. I could always ajust tren dose from there.

Anyone have thoughts on this?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Or I could stop being silly and just continue doing what I am doing on test only as I am getting great results. LoL

 

[gymjunkie09]

Gains are great but considering going back on some tren, and since I am going to stay on I feel I can run very low doses. My concern is test dosing. I am considering trt level test and then running 200mg of tren, which for me has always been enough to see amazing results. I have only pharma test amps. EOW injections can fluxate levels a bit for people on TRT but with the weekly tren ena it might be reasonable? Was thinking of one amp every 2 weeks, so 250mg of test every two weeks just to keep my sex drive up, and 200mg of tren ena a week. I could always ajust tren dose from there.

Anyone have thoughts on this?

so you we're considering just stayin on tren and including in your hrt? lol

 

[Deleted member 33117]

so you we're considering just stayin on tren and including in your hrt? lol

Something like that LoL

Probably more ideal for me to run 500mg of test a lot of the time like I am doing now when I want to make rapid gains then coast on 250mg of test between as long as my bloodwork stays pretty. I do have to donate blood a few times a year to keep my RBC down around 50. I got a free "Give the gift of life" backpack out of it back in the day that I still use though, so totally worth it.

Actually any bro running long cycles has surplus red blood cells so not donating blood that could save a life is being a dick.

 

[gymjunkie09]

Something like that LoL

Probably more ideal for me to run 500mg of test a lot of the time like I am doing now when I want to make rapid gains then coast on 250mg of test between as long as my bloodwork stays pretty. I do have to donate blood a few times a year to keep my RBC down around 50. I got a free "Give the gift of life" backpack out of it back in the day that I still use though, so totally worth it.

Actually any bro running long cycles has surplus red blood cells so not donating blood that could save a life is being a dick.

I'm not coming off either, I was actually thinking of adding mast e at 200mg with a test dose of 150mg during my "cruise" phases just to help keep me dry, what your opinion on that?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I'm not coming off either, I was actually thinking of adding mast e at 200mg with a test dose of 150mg during my "cruise" phases just to help keep me dry, what your opinion on that?

As long as you are not prone to DHT sides (prostate enlargement comes to mind for those of us getting older and staying on) it is reasonable. You could also try low dose test + proviron for that as well.

 

[gymjunkie09]

As long as you are not prone to DHT sides (prostate enlargement comes to mind for those of us getting older and staying on) it is reasonable. You could also try low dose test + proviron for that as well.

I was thinking that but mast e would be so much more convenient, I pop enough pills between vitamins,ass, and otc supps I don't need to add amymore lol. But I do like the libido boost from proviron tho

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I was thinking that but mast e would be so much more convenient, I pop enough pills between vitamins,ass, and otc supps I don't need to add amymore lol. But I do like the libido boost from proviron tho

Yeah proviron works as well as test for libido, is a great hardener and has some interesting properties on AR's in adipose tissue... I've often wondered what a tren/proviron only stack might be like for a cutter.

 

[gymjunkie09]

Yeah proviron works as well as test for libido, is a great hardener and has some interesting properties on AR's in adipose tissue... I've often wondered what a tren/proviron only stack might be like for a cutter.

i'm running tren now and adding proviron next week, already on mast prop 100mg ed as well soooo lets see lol

 

[Deleted member 33117]

i'm running tren now and adding proviron next week, already on mast prop 100mg ed as well soooo lets see lol

Went ahead and ordered some tren e myself... think I will go ahead with my other idea on the low dose test 200mg of tren and adjust test as needed and see how I like it. Honestly my bf being a little higher right now still I think a low dose of tren might be just what I need to speed up the recomp. 200mg of tren a week for me is a monster, as like I said before, at my peak I benched 475 and pulled 615 both raw on 50 prop/25 tren a ed and in my experience tren is stronger than test.

At some point if I feel like spending the money I might try something like 300 tren a week with 50 proviron a day on a hard cut.

 

[gymjunkie09]

Went ahead and ordered some tren e myself... think I will go ahead with my other idea on the low dose test 200mg of tren and adjust test as needed and see how I like it. Honestly my bf being a little higher right now still I think a low dose of tren might be just what I need to speed up the recomp. 200mg of tren a week for me is a monster, as like I said before, at my peak I benched 475 and pulled 615 both raw on 50 prop/25 tren a ed and in my experience tren is stronger than test.

At some point if I feel like spending the money I might try something like 300 tren a week with 50 proviron a day on a hard cut.

those are some impressive numbers bro, this is my first time with tren and its acetate. Its been about ten days and I cant believe the difference in my body comp, I dropped my carbs down to about 70grams a day and can see a difference the mirror daily, i've never experienced anything like it. I've only been getting 5-6 hours sleep if i'm lucky the past few days and i'm barely taking in carbs and I still feel great and my workouts have been above par as well....tren is nothing short of amazing

 

[Deleted member 33117]

those are some impressive numbers bro, this is my first time with tren and its acetate. Its been about ten days and I cant believe the difference in my body comp, I dropped my carbs down to about 70grams a day and can see a difference the mirror daily, i've never experienced anything like it. I've only been getting 5-6 hours sleep if i'm lucky the past few days and i'm barely taking in carbs and I still feel great and my workouts have been above par as well....tren is nothing short of amazing

I am sweating a little right now thinking about it... an amp of test eow or so to make sure my junk works and put my legit test in the normal healthy range with 200mg of tren to recomp and gain strength on... I honestly wonder why some guys even go 400mg+ on it unless they have extreme goals. The shit is so powerful I can't imagine the guys doing 400mg of it a week not hitting a 4 pps bench and at least a 500 lbs squat in a reasonable period of time. I think the 3x the power comparison to test is reasonable. Maybe not in weight gain but in direct myofibrillar growth and in terms of strength gain 200mg of tren = 600mg of test.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

... and my tren is here. How I missed thee sweet king of steroids. I'll try pinning 200mg a week and an amp of test every two weeks to make sure my sex drive stays up... and watch the amazing recomposition happen while my strength gains continue on. No point getting greedy on tren doses... it works amazing at 150-200mg a week.

 

[thelocal]

those are some impressive numbers bro, this is my first time with tren and its acetate. Its been about ten days and I cant believe the difference in my body comp, I dropped my carbs down to about 70grams a day and can see a difference the mirror daily, i've never experienced anything like it. I've only been getting 5-6 hours sleep if i'm lucky the past few days and i'm barely taking in carbs and I still feel great and my workouts have been above par as well....tren is nothing short of amazing

tren rocks plan and simple lol..

 

[gatemoney]

^^^can vouch for this!

 

[moya]

low dose tren is giving me some nice results...

what PL meet are you going to enter bro? im doing the USPA cal state in corona in 2 weeks...

i also agree 100% with your thoughts on supplements...

 

[TheSVPdeal]

already on mast prop 100mg ed

Oh Bastard. See you there soon

 

[Deleted member 33117]

low dose tren is giving me some nice results...

what PL meet are you going to enter bro? im doing the USPA cal state in corona in 2 weeks...

i also agree 100% with your thoughts on supplements...

Haven't decided yet just local stuff here in the UK. I am miffed becuase one I wanted to do in April in my town just 2 miles away the gym owner, who is shady as fuck, where the meet is held banned me from his gym. He hired me to do some very part time weekend work, for pay + free gym membership, then failed to pay me everything he owed so I quit and he said if I don't want to work for him I wasn't welcome to set foot in his gym... which would include powerlifting meets (as the one's in this county are held there).

Yeah I found 175mg of tren a worked wonders back in the day so 200mg of tren e should yeild similar effects... and the dose is low enough that sides shouldn't be an issue... is so I can cut back to 150mg a week.

 

[gymjunkie09]

Oh Bastard. See you there soon

Yeah you're gonna love it bro

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Sweet baby Jesus the tren e hit hard!... I didn't think it would, but I've not used tren since this ester of it was invented... I shot on Saturday, by Mondy the night sweats, a full day of tren flu, the muscle cramps and insane pumps hit me hard. Loaded up on magnesium and the cramping went away. Hit PR's on Monday and Tuesday full beast mode. Up to 234. Time to rethink my plan a bit. Tren has always been an absolute beast for me. Going to keep running this routine... cut back to 150mg of tren a week... I think 200mg is going to give me more night sweats than my wife can tolerate and I've never had an issue making insane gains on 150mg of ace a week so ena shouldn't be much different. One amp of test every two weeks, 150mg of tren a week... going to cut my dietary fat back further (I'll be supplementing my fish oil still) replace more of my grains with fruit (I find it more satisfying so I eat less) and a bit more veggies and a lot of lean protein and let the tren do its magic. Time to start leaning out faster and keep on with the myofibrillar growth and new strength gains... I am going to put a heavier focus on tricep work in the coming weeks... they are lagging badly and are the biggest weakness in my bench press... which is stalling behind my squats and deadlifts. My deadlifts in particular are increasing by leaps and bounds. I literally add 10 lbs to my working sets every time I do them.

 

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Putting up an update pic... still fat, hairy and pale and still a fraction of the old BBF... but coming along.

Going to put more effort into cutting more bodyfat and cleaning my diet up to assist the tren further in doing its magic while continue to focus on strength and improving my power lifts.

Can't get the pic to embed... can someone help there? I have it in IMG tags.

 

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Been off the test for a month, been on 200mg of tren e a week only... up to 235, am a little leaner and lifts continue to increase slightly every week. Other than night sweats and a little acne on my traps... no sides to speak off. Sex drive good, testicles good, aggression in check.