smartest peeps on ef?

[OMEGA]

Note my first intelligence list. Omega was on it with 'he hides it though'.

.

I Wanna cry NOW LOL

thank you

I loved talking to you too and will in the future

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

fuck this shit

STFU!!!!! terd burglar

 

[WhistleBritches]

Someone mentioned Digger, he seems to be able to come up with the best posts when all else has failed.

Digger Reminds of a stronger Version of the main coach in Million Dollar Baby

the best parts

 

[Jon79]

Nothing sillier than someone bragging on the internet about how much money they supposedly make. No one I know who makes decent money feels the need to bragg or would disclose the actual amount. In my book this automatically eliminates your from your own list.

Also, when did 400k become the vogue number? 75th and someone else has thrown it out recently.

until u came from shit....nothing and to the piont of death but picked yourself up and turned a pile of turmoil and shit into a pile of fucking gold

Then u fucking deserve to swagger....

id have mother fuckers suckin my mother fuckin cock just so they could get a taste of the holy fuckin grail......

I came from shit and im on my way to the fucking top and nothing will fucking stand in my fucking way.

However I do expect jealous ppl like you that sit around and mope and wish they had the fucking sack to go out and take what they fucking want in this life. so they gotta be crashin others parties... Hey and if im wrong and your happy with you life and financial situaton then fine.

That nigga diserves every fucking thing he has and deserves to let whoever the fuck he wants know about it....

U say the ppl you know that make decent money dont go around and brag about it? Fuck that then they are not fucking proud. Btw bragging and proud are two whole different ballparks.....

The ppl you speak of may make just as much money or more but when you create that wealth from nothing just you and only you no big corperation etc. There is nothing more rewarding. So yes bragging is in order..

Fuck get "I'm rich biach" tattoed on your cock" and whip it out on every occasion for the world to see.

Fuck quit bitchin, step aside, or follow mother fucker...

 

[Beachboy6294]

I would let her tutor me.

I DOUBT IT!!! Hornets!! Damn I thought you were smarter than that saldfork!! lol.

 

[Beachboy6294]

CEO, Puddlemonkey, Needto, Mavafanculo, Tatyana, Jack Sparrow, and Army Vet.

 

[Lumberg]

me

Thanks JS

 

[Cal_21]

until u came from shit....nothing and to the piont of death but picked yourself up and turned a pile of turmoil and shit into a pile of fucking gold

Then u fucking deserve to swagger....

id have mother fuckers suckin my mother fuckin cock just so they could get a taste of the holy fuckin grail......

I came from shit and im on my way to the fucking top and nothing will fucking stand in my fucking way.

However I do expect jealous ppl like you that sit around and mope and wish they had the fucking sack to go out and take what they fucking want in this life. so they gotta be crashin others parties... Hey and if im wrong and your happy with you life and financial situaton then fine.

That nigga diserves every fucking thing he has and deserves to let whoever the fuck he wants know about it....

U say the ppl you know that make decent money dont go around and brag about it? Fuck that then they are not fucking proud. Btw bragging and proud are two whole different ballparks.....

The ppl you speak of may make just as much money or more but when you create that wealth from nothing just you and only you no big corperation etc. There is nothing more rewarding. So yes bragging is in order..

Fuck get "I'm rich biach" tattoed on your cock" and whip it out on every occasion for the world to see.

Fuck quit bitchin, step aside, or follow mother fucker...

Preach on brother. That's a great outlook to have. Wish I could get over my fuckin self and squash the self doubt & unleash that drive & hunger. It's starting to happen for me.

 

[myway]

until u came from shit....nothing and to the piont of death but picked yourself up and turned a pile of turmoil and shit into a pile of fucking gold

Then u fucking deserve to swagger....

id have mother fuckers suckin my mother fuckin cock just so they could get a taste of the holy fuckin grail......

I came from shit and im on my way to the fucking top and nothing will fucking stand in my fucking way.

However I do expect jealous ppl like you that sit around and mope and wish they had the fucking sack to go out and take what they fucking want in this life. so they gotta be crashin others parties... Hey and if im wrong and your happy with you life and financial situaton then fine.

That nigga diserves every fucking thing he has and deserves to let whoever the fuck he wants know about it....

U say the ppl you know that make decent money dont go around and brag about it? Fuck that then they are not fucking proud. Btw bragging and proud are two whole different ballparks.....

The ppl you speak of may make just as much money or more but when you create that wealth from nothing just you and only you no big corperation etc. There is nothing more rewarding. So yes bragging is in order..

Fuck get "I'm rich biach" tattoed on your cock" and whip it out on every occasion for the world to see.

Fuck quit bitchin, step aside, or follow mother fucker...

Ummm....rawr?

 

[heatherrae]

Let me tell you why i think this thread is gonna suck (not the idea layingback.. but the feedback/posts)

First of all, i don't think alot of people understand the true definition of "smart". Intelligence is a variety of things and factors into everything from social skills/human interaction, problem solving, reason, learn from mistakes and the ability to process information.
Yeah you can be book smart...a math or science whiz, but does that make you a genius? No. The most intelligent and successful people i know or have ever met have capabilities beyond just one portion of knowledge or area.
Knowledge in itself is a portion of being intelligent, but is far from the end all. You know how many math geniuses or engineers can't talk to stranger without dying of anxiety?


Secondly, i already noticed a large age bias. most of the people mentioned are 35+...(no disrespect to them of course)
I think often people equate age with intelligence. It's just not true. Yes, one may become smarter from life experiences assuming they have been in many different situations and environments. Layinback is a perfect example of that...someone who's been through several lifetimes of experience yet has very little formal education. Obviously in his case (like myself) he makes it a habit to gain knowledge on his own which is why he's so well spoken and articulate. However, that is not everybody.

You're smart relative to where you are in life. that's why i mentioned some of the younger peeps on this forum. i bet you're gonna see alot of people not mentioned because of that.

just a rant, really

Dumb people are always the ones who yell, "Oh, but look at that scientist. He's not as STREET SMART as me!" This always cracks me up. ;-)

 

[Mavafanculo]

 

[heatherrae]

Gosh, there are many, many smart people on ef. I think it is easier to list the true idiots. There are fewer of them.

 

[heatherrae]

I'm going with tatayana, nimbus, cal_21, samoth, omega, heatherrae, cooper, bluebird, atw, bikinimom, musclemom, curveymom, oh hell add your name to my list if you're sombody's mom

 

[calveless wonder]

Dumb people are always the ones who yell, "Oh, but look at that scientist. He's not as STREET SMART as me!" This always cracks me up. ;-)

go read a dictionary or a psychology book then come talk to me about what the definition of intelligent is and how it applies.

there's no way to say one way or another without evaluating the individual person.

doctors for example.....the worst with finance, and often lack charisma. DO all of them? No. But i can tell you from my experiences in business doctors are some of the worst people to deal with financially as they are clueless.

 

[heatherrae]

go read a dictionary or a psychology book then come talk to me about what the definition of intelligent is and how it applies.

there's no way to say one way or another without evaluating the individual person.

doctors for example.....the worst with finance, and often lack charisma. DO all of them? No. But i can tell you from my experiences in business doctors are some of the worst people to deal with financially as they are clueless.

Wouldn't that make me book smart -- the very quality that you say doesn't matter?

Quite a contradiction for you to tell me to read more books, isn't it?

 

[calveless wonder]

Wouldn't that make me book smart -- the very quality that you say doesn't matter?

Quite a contradiction for you to tell me to read more books, isn't it?

That suggestion is out the window. I suppose you can't read either

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/8170112-post9.html

 

[velvett]

doctors for example.....the worst with finance, and often lack charisma. DO all of them? No. But i can tell you from my experiences in business doctors are some of the worst people to deal with financially as they are clueless.

It's true.

My poor father, a doctor, would often get taken advantage of in "deals" with him being the investor for some idiot with a good line of bullshit. Always did well with real estate though and he had charisma - the man could work a room and the ladies always flocked to him.

 

[heatherrae]

That suggestion is out the window. I suppose you can't read either

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/8170112-post9.html

I have a degree in psych, so I've already read the books which you suggest. Thanks, though, Mr. Sensitive.

LOL

I love people who always bust out the "street smarts" argument. My dad does the same thing. I love him to death, but he is way too insecure about not being college educated. So, he always points out that he has "street smarts" and insults college educated people for not possessing his "street smarts." It makes me chuckle a bit, because he lives in a small town subdivision -- not exactly the mean streets which would garner the hard knocks that would develope "street smarts."

 

[calveless wonder]

I have a degree in psych, so I've already read the books which you suggest. Thanks, though, Mr. Sensitive.

LOL

I love people who always bust out the "street smarts" argument. My dad does the same thing. I love him to death, but he is way too insecure about not being college educated. So, he always points out that he has "street smarts" and insults college educated people for not possessing his "street smarts." It makes me chuckle a bit, because he lives in a small town subdivision -- not exactly the mean streets which would garner the hard knocks that would develope "street smarts."

You obviously fail to understand what "street smarts" even means. You just admitted you think its a literal meaning in the above. Street smarts is simply the ability to understand, function and thrive in real life situations and problems. Nothing you can read in a book can prepare you for that. If you think you have to grow up in the ghetto to be street smart you have just completely proved my point about being clueless.

Education, whether formal or self taught, is paramount. But you don't have to go to college to be educated. At the same time you can have all the knowledge in the world but if you can't apply it it means absolutely nothing. You can have a GREAT work ethic and read book after book but does that make you smart? no, it makes you knowledgable. that's it
People confuse knowledge with being smart. the two are not mutually exclusive

A genius, true genius....can take anything and succeed in it given the time and determination. that's smart

 

[Smurfy]

I have a degree in psych, so I've already read the books which you suggest. Thanks, though, Mr. Sensitive.

LOL

I love people who always bust out the "street smarts" argument. My dad does the same thing. I love him to death, but he is way too insecure about not being college educated. So, he always points out that he has "street smarts" and insults college educated people for not possessing his "street smarts." It makes me chuckle a bit, because he lives in a small town subdivision -- not exactly the mean streets which would garner the hard knocks that would develope "street smarts."

lol Ive seen this before too

 

[rnch]

You obviously fail to understand what "street smarts" even means. You just admitted you think its a literal meaning in the above. Street smarts is simply the ability to understand, function and thrive in real life situations and problems. Nothing you can read in a book can prepare you for that. If you think you have to grow up in the ghetto to be street smart you have just completely proved my point about being clueless.

Education, whether formal or self taught, is paramount. But you don't have to go to college to be educated. At the same time you can have all the knowledge in the world but if you can't apply it it means absolutely nothing. You can have a GREAT work ethic and read book after book but does that make you smart? no, it makes you knowledgable. that's it
People confuse knowledge with being smart. the two are not mutually exclusive

A genius, true genius....can take anything and succeed in it given the time and determination. that's smart

"there are none so blind as those who will not see." (smurf, heather)

 

[velvett]

I have a degree in psych, so I've already read the books which you suggest. Thanks, though, Mr. Sensitive.

LOL

I love people who always bust out the "street smarts" argument. My dad does the same thing. I love him to death, but he is way too insecure about not being college educated. So, he always points out that he has "street smarts" and insults college educated people for not possessing his "street smarts." It makes me chuckle a bit, because he lives in a small town subdivision -- not exactly the mean streets which would garner the hard knocks that would develope "street smarts."

Street smarts is really more about manipulation, survival and common sense but you do don't need street smarts or a high level of intelligence to have common sense and one doesn't always dictate the other.

I agree with you about the argument because a lot people that claim to be street smart (only) don't realize that you can be college educated and street smart as well but that would be like admitting they're not the smartest and most educated.

It's the people that are way off in one direction or another that anyone really takes notices of (and those that wear it on their sleeve as some sort of badge of honor).

I think we can all agree that "street smarts" or "book smarts" are not a guarantee of success in life or business.

 

[heatherrae]

You obviously fail to understand what "street smarts" even means. You just admitted you think its a literal meaning in the above. Street smarts is simply the ability to understand, function and thrive in real life situations and problems. Nothing you can read in a book can prepare you for that. If you think you have to grow up in the ghetto to be street smart you have just completely proved my point about being clueless.

Education, whether formal or self taught, is paramount. But you don't have to go to college to be educated. At the same time you can have all the knowledge in the world but if you can't apply it it means absolutely nothing. You can have a GREAT work ethic and read book after book but does that make you smart? no, it makes you knowledgable. that's it
People confuse knowledge with being smart. the two are not mutually exclusive

A genius, true genius....can take anything and succeed in it given the time and determination. that's smart

I understand quite well what it means.

Seems I hit a nerve with you.

Relax, Pocahantas.

 

[EarthRider]

i am the smartest dude here, when my wife tells me to do something, i do it. happy wife happy life, see im smart.

 

[rnch]

I think we can all agree that "street smarts" or "book smarts" are not a guarantee of success in life or business.

contrary to what the ivory tower college instructors who spend their entire "career" hiding out in academia will preach to you....

 

[heatherrae]

Street smarts is really more about manipulation, survival and common sense but you do don't need street smarts or a high level of intelligence to have common sense and one doesn't always dictate the other.

I agree with you about the argument because a lot people that claim to be street smart (only) don't realize that you can be college educated and street smart as well but that would be like admitting they're not the smartest and most educated.

It's the people that are way off in one direction or another that anyone really takes notices of (and those that wear it on their sleeve as some sort of badge of honor).

I think we can all agree that "street smarts" or "book smarts" are not a guarantee of success in life or business.

I honestly believe that the most important factor to success is being focused on one thing and having a dogged degree of perseverance.

I'm just amused by insecure people who denegrate people with an education on the good ol' "street smart" argument. ;-)

I agree that being savvy and being knowledgable are both invaluable.

 

[velvett]

contrary to what the ivory tower college instructors who spend their entire "career" hiding out in academia will preach to you....

I know people like that they hide in school because that's where they're successful and what they fear is failing outside of where they are comfortable.

A girl I went to college with already had a masters in Fine Arts when she decided to get a BA in Interior Design and then a masters in Architecture. She was incredibly talented and not just in one area she excelled in all areas but she was terrified to leave school so she's a teacher now instead.

That all said I am for education and further education, I don't think you should stop learning but at the same time experience had through working is not something one can learn in school and is very often more valuable than what you learned in school.

 

[nefertiti]

I've said it before, I'll say it again....many of my clients are not "book smart" in the sense that they either did not complete or did not do well in college. But they are all multi millionaires. Heather might giggle at the people yelling "street smarts" in defense of their lack of education, but I laugh at people who turn their nose up at the intelligence of someone who hasn't completed college (not saying that's you, heather, but there are plenty out there who feel that way).

College is an acheivement, a way of showing people that you went through a proccess and completed some formalized education. But having a degree does not in any way shape or form mean one is smarter than someone without one. That may be the case in some or many situations, but getting a degree is not the measuring tool.

(Coming from someone who spent six years in college between undergrad and grad)

 

[stilleto]

I have this very interesting book on intelligence (my father studied it for years). It claims that two things factor into intelligence; creativity and happiness.

Creativity is because a creative mind can problem solve on different levels. By keeping an open mind and being able to think outside of the box, solutions (whether to life situations, or 'street smart' or to academia) to problems at hand will be greater in number and therefore choosing the best answer will be easier.

The other arguement to intelligence is the ability to be happy. I don't necessarily agree with this, but the book claims that those that live happily are the most intelligent- although i think that's a philisophical matter.

 

[NickyE3]

Im only tech-savy

 

[calveless wonder]

I've said it before, I'll say it again....many of my clients are not "book smart" in the sense that they either did not complete or did not do well in college. But they are all multi millionaires. Heather might giggle at the people yelling "street smarts" in defense of their lack of education, but I laugh at people who turn their nose up at the intelligence of someone who hasn't completed college (not saying that's you, heather, but there are plenty out there who feel that way).

College is an acheivement, a way of showing people that you went through a proccess and completed some formalized education. But having a degree does not in any way shape or form mean one is smarter than someone without one. That may be the case in some or many situations, but getting a degree is not the measuring tool.

(Coming from someone who spent six years in college between undergrad and grad)

the calvary has arrived!

 

[FriendlyCanadian]

I think some of the smartest people who live now and have live, are without a college education shit even a highschool education.

Henry ford definately comes to mind, and alot of other great entrapenuers, because they had the hunger and desire to make something great and realized also with what I believe is thier superior intelligence, that they could pay whoever they wanted or needed too in specialized fields, with college educations to give them whatever information they need.

Example at one point in time henry ford was called ignorant by a chicago newspaper during the first world war. Mr ford objected to the statement, and brought suit against the paper for libeling him. when the suit was tried in the courts, the attorney for the paper placed mr ford on the witness stand asking him a bunch of rediculous questions.. like how many british soldiers invaded america to put the rebellion of 1776.

Mr ford's response was " I do not know the exact number of soldiers the British sent over, but I have heard that it was a considerably large number than ever want back "

Finally, Mr ford became tired of this line of question and in reply to a particularly offensive question, he leaned over pointed his finger at the lawyer who had asked the question and said " If I should really want to answer the foolish question you have just asked, or any of the other questions you have been asking me, let me remind you that I have a row of electric push-buttons on my desk, and by pushing the right button, I can summon to my aid men who can answer any question I desire to ask concerning the business to which I am devoting most of my efforts, now will you kindly tell me, why I should clutter up my mind with general knowledge, for the purpose of being able to answer questions, when I have men around me who can supply any knowledge I require? "

Sheer Brilliance Mr Ford, what a statement!

Henry Ford had less than a sixth grade education, but he did pretty well by himself financially.

Thomas A. Edison had only three months of "schooling" during his entire life.

I think to much is put on education and general knowledge equating to some kind of overall intelligence.

Bill gates, university drop out.

I think the smartest people are the ones with the gall and the passion to persue the burning desires they have in life. I think these are the most intelligent people, they do not accept failure, they get up when they are down and they never accept that thier dreams will not be a reality.

Too many people, become complacent and think they can't do any better for themselves and let that passion and that fire burn out. they may appear intelligent, or be filled with wealths of general knowledge, great grammar and great spelling.

but to me the most intelligent people are the ones who seek to fufill thier dreams and desires, who don't lose sight of thier goals and never accept mediocraty or let thier fire burn out, and they live truely happily fufilling lives.

just my two cents, I'm sure not really a traditional definition of intelligence.

 

[heatherrae]

I have this very interesting book on intelligence (my father studied it for years). It claims that two things factor into intelligence; creativity and happiness.

Creativity is because a creative mind can problem solve on different levels. By keeping an open mind and being able to think outside of the box, solutions (whether to life situations, or 'street smart' or to academia) to problems at hand will be greater in number and therefore choosing the best answer will be easier.

The other arguement to intelligence is the ability to be happy. I don't necessarily agree with this, but the book claims that those that live happily are the most intelligent- although i think that's a philisophical matter.

Interesting theory. I agree that the happiness part seems a value that is placed on that sort of life. Many, many highly intelligent people seem to be the ones with the most inner turmoil, it seems to me.

Creativity, I'm sure, definitely factors into the equation.

 

[heatherrae]

It isn't that I think that non-college educated people are less intelligent.

I just have noticed that some people who I know love to insult college educated people as not being "street smart." They consider themselves more "street smart" for dubious reasons, which I fail to see. The people who they are insulting, in my experience, usually have the same or better level of achievements in life. I blame it on insecurity when people incessantly blather on about "street smarts," which are wholly subjective.

I actually think my dad is quite smart, actually, but I see his tirades about "street smarts" as a mask for his insecurity.

That is really my point.

 

[stilleto]

Interesting theory. I agree that the happiness part seems a value that is placed on that sort of life. Many, many highly intelligent people seem to be the ones with the most inner turmoil, it seems to me.

Creativity, I'm sure, definitely factors into the equation.

it definately does. my father used to lecture (at USC I think, but also at some other major companies) on "freeing the creative mind". He had (and now I have them) TONS of books on creativity and intelligence.

I scored very high on my IQ test in high school, but I honestly don't feel THAT smart. I know i'm very creative though and I've realized that's why I did well, and probably why i did well in life... because when it comes to some things, like my memory and finance and numbers- i'm practically retarded, but i'm creative enough to work with what I have and make good decisions.

 

[velvett]

I think the smartest people are the ones with the gall and the passion to persue the burning desires they have in life. I think these are the most intelligent people, they do not accept failure, they get up when they are down and they never accept that thier dreams will not be a reality.

worth repeating

 

[calveless wonder]

worth repeating

With that statement, now we're talking about success.

I agree 1000% with it, but its more indicative of success. which of course, in some way ties in to what we're talking about.

oh fuck, my brain hurts. i need to stay off this thread for awhile

 

[rnch]

LMAO @ heather backpedaling and crawfishing, trying to defend her indefensible, arrogant "opinion".

heather, you are starting to sound like one of those snide, superior, frustrated women who think their education makes them the better of any man who refuses to pay her attention when she is sitting on a bar stool in a sluttie dress with her "intelligence" hanging out.

 

[calveless wonder]

LMAO @ heather backpedaling and crawfishing, trying to defend her indefensible, arrogant "opinion".

heather, you are starting to sound like one of those snide, superior, frustrated women who think their education makes them the better of any man who refuses to pay her attention when she is sitting on a bar stool in a sluttie dress with her "intelligence" hanging out.

yep. that's why i got condescending with her.

you give it, best to expect to take it

and lol....thats some pretty hard ownage

 

[Smurfy]

work with whatcha got, people!
build on your strengths by putting them to use in a way that's both productive and rewarding (financially, personally, professionally).

ultimately we all strive for the same thing no matter where we come from or where we wind up - and that's happiness.

 

[heatherrae]

LMAO @ heather backpedaling and crawfishing, trying to defend her indefensible, arrogant "opinion".

heather, you are starting to sound like one of those snide, superior, frustrated women who think their education makes them the better of any man who refuses to pay her attention when she is sitting on a bar stool in a sluttie dress with her "intelligence" hanging out.

Wow, someone is defensive and OFFENSIVE. Insecure much? I haven't called anyone dumb on this thread and don't think anyone is dumb just because they don't have an education. I do think that there are lots of idiots out there who throw out "street smarts" as a defense to their insecuties. No backpedaling there.

"I calls em like I sees em" too.

I'm cracking up over here.

 

[rnch]

i "call's 'em as i seeeeez 'em".

 

[calveless wonder]

work with whatcha got, people!
build on your strengths by putting them to use in a way that's both productive and rewarding (financially, personally, professionally).

ultimately we all strive for the same thing no matter where we come from or where we wind up - and that's happiness.

thnx reading rainbow

thread over

 

[Smurfy]

clearly a lot of people are touchy because its Monday.

 

[heatherrae]

clearly a lot of people are touchy because its Monday.

No doubts.

Somebody's nerves got hit by some pretty benign statments.

 

[Smurfy]

thnx reading rainbow

thread over

are you being facetious?

i liked my post. i thought it was relevant

 

[calveless wonder]

are you being facetious?

i liked my post. i thought it was relevant

i liked it too and agree. but it sounded like the "the more you know" commercials.

pretty conclusive statement, thats why i said thread over lol

 

[Smurfy]

i liked it too and agree. but it sounded like the "the more you know" commercials.

pretty conclusive statement, thats why i said thread over lol

Im just trying to bring us all together in some common way.

Im all about bringing the peace!

 

[rnch]

i just read heather's public profile.

single parent and a lawyer.

wow.

WHY am i not su-prised?

 

[heatherrae]

i just read heather's public profile.

single parent and a lawyer.

wow.

WHY am i not su-prised?

Clearly there is something troubling you if it bothered you so much that I laughed that there are plenty of dumb people who use "street smarts" as a buffer to their insecurities.

Wonder why it is troubling you so?

 

[Smurfy]

rnch is stooping to personal insults now

Koombaya motherfuckers! Koombaya!

 

[heatherrae]

i just read heather's public profile.

single parent and a lawyer.

wow.

WHY am i not su-prised?

gee, I don't know. Please share with the rest of the class, and we can discuss.

 

[FriendlyCanadian]

With that statement, now we're talking about success.

I agree 1000% with it, but its more indicative of success. which of course, in some way ties in to what we're talking about.

oh fuck, my brain hurts. i need to stay off this thread for awhile

I think it's indicative of success, because it's one of the ways to truely become successful.

To me the success is once you've achieved the upper echelons of your dreams and desires and manifested them into a reality, and not before then would I consider you to be a success.

perhaps I didn't explain myself as clearly as I could have.

I meant the people who continue on the path of thier dreams and desires and continue to have the complete faith that thier dreams will one day be manifested into a reality, and are also taking action in achieving those dreams are successful.

no matter how much knowledge you posses, social skillz, leet math skillz, or even street smarts, to me I could not consider someone of superior intelligence if they have let society crush thier dreams and have followed down a path of complaceny for whatever reason, most likely taking the safe route or having lost faith in themselves and thier dreams.

I agree though it is partially talking about successful, but again it was "my" opinion of superior intelligence, the people who continue to strive for thier dreams no matter how outlandish they may seem with that burning desire, and complete and utter faith they thay will one day succeed.

 

[heatherrae]

rnch is stooping to personal insults now

Koombaya motherfuckers! Koombaya!

Clearly I hit some nerve of his. lol. I didn't call anyone on here dumb ...



Let's see, he called me an arrogant slut. I think I may love him for that. That is PRETTY COOL. ;-)

 

[rnch]

heather, your condesending attitude towards men and ANYONE who disagrees with your "opinions" goes a long way towards explaining why you are single and have a avi on display with your "intelligence" hanging out.

 

[heatherrae]

heather, your condesending attitude towards men and ANYONE who disagrees with your "opinions" goes a long way towards explaining why you are single and have a avi on display with your "intelligence" hanging out.

LOLOLOLOL...

Clearly you are touchy today. You and I usually agree on most things. I think I just hit some weird sore spot that you have today. You may need to "walk it off." No one was talking about you, men in general, or being condescending to anyone.

 

[rnch]

Clearly there is something troubling you if it bothered you so much that I laughed that there are plenty of dumb people who use "street smarts" as a buffer to their insecurities.

Wonder why it is troubling you so?

"dumb people who use street smarts"...yes, that does sum up your attirude towards people, education and your snide, snobbish superiority to the rest of us Mere Mortals below you, doesn't it!

 

[rnch]

also, it's a slow day here and i am playing devil's advocate, messin' with heather and smurf.




maybe

 

[stilleto]

I understand heather's point- maybe she didn't word it well.

from what I read, she's not saying that anyone who uses the "street smart" phrase is an idiot, but rather there are idiots OUT THERE (not necessarily in HERE) who use it as an excuse for THEIR stupidity.

i think most of us can agree that there are people who do that- I know i've seen it- people who aren't educated, successful, or happy and they say "yeah, but I'm street smart". She was perhaps making a point that there are a lot of people who do that.

 

[heatherrae]

"dumb people who use street smarts"...yes, that does sum up your attirude towards people, education and your snide, snobbish superiority to the rest of us Mere Mortals below you, doesn't it!

LOL...

there are people like that. Did I say that about you? or anyone else?

The only example that I gave of someone using the street smarts argument out of insecurity is my own father, whom I love very much and is a very smart cookie. He does use the "street smart" argument out of insecurity, though. He is replete with insecurity issues, as everyone is.

Your assumptions about my personality are more telling about your touchy spots than anything else.

and as far as letting my "intelligence" hang out, I think I have seen far more of you, but it is no big deal. I'm not squeamish about the human body. Just don't be a pot calling the kettle black. ;-)

 

[heatherrae]

I understand heather's point- maybe she didn't word it well.

from what I read, she's not saying that anyone who uses the "street smart" phrase is an idiot, but rather there are idiots OUT THERE (not necessarily in HERE) who use it as an excuse for THEIR stupidity.

i think most of us can agree that there are people who do that- I know i've seen it- people who aren't educated, successful, or happy and they say "yeah, but I'm street smart". She was perhaps making a point that there are a lot of people who do that.

yes. seems pretty clear to me that this was the point.

lol @ being called a arrogant slut, though. GD I loved that...lol. I need to find a man who will call me that in bed...lol.

 

[rnch]

SOMEBODY'S getting frustrated and defensive here today.......

 

[Smurfy]

I understand heather's point- maybe she didn't word it well.

from what I read, she's not saying that anyone who uses the "street smart" phrase is an idiot, but rather there are idiots OUT THERE (not necessarily in HERE) who use it as an excuse for THEIR stupidity.

i think most of us can agree that there are people who do that- I know i've seen it- people who aren't educated, successful, or happy and they say "yeah, but I'm street smart". She was perhaps making a point that there are a lot of people who do that.

She even gave her own father as an example. And clearly she doesnt think her father is an idiot. In fact, she stated that she thinks he's quite smart. I think she was merely pointing out how some people try to mask their own insecurities in using the "street smart" line. And i think she's right, some people do that. But that doesnt make them stupid either.

 

[heatherrae]

I think it's indicative of success, because it's one of the ways to truely become successful.

To me the success is once you've achieved the upper echelons of your dreams and desires and manifested them into a reality, and not before then would I consider you to be a success.

perhaps I didn't explain myself as clearly as I could have.

I meant the people who continue on the path of thier dreams and desires and continue to have the complete faith that thier dreams will one day be manifested into a reality, and are also taking action in achieving those dreams are successful.

no matter how much knowledge you posses, social skillz, leet math skillz, or even street smarts, to me I could not consider someone of superior intelligence if they have let society crush thier dreams and have followed down a path of complaceny for whatever reason, most likely taking the safe route or having lost faith in themselves and thier dreams.

I agree though it is partially talking about successful, but again it was "my" opinion of superior intelligence, the people who continue to strive for thier dreams no matter how outlandish they may seem with that burning desire, and complete and utter faith they thay will one day succeed.

agreed.

 

[calveless wonder]

She even gave her own father as an example. And clearly she doesnt think her father is an idiot. In fact, she stated that she thinks he's quite smart. I think she was merely pointing out how some people try to mask their own insecurities in using the "street smart" line. And i think she's right, some people do that. But that doesnt make them stupid either.

she completely backpedaled and came off arrogant and condescending. she got what she deserved and was proven wrong, obviously.

although at this point its just gotten too far

 

[heatherrae]

SOMEBODY'S getting frustrated and defensive here today.......

yes, maybe you should take a break and get some fresh air. =-)

 

[heatherrae]

she completely backpedaled and came off arrogant and condescending. she got what she deserved and was proven wrong, obviously.

although at this point its just gotten too far

LOL....you too.

I didn't back pedal once. You just didn't understand the point.

 

[rnch]

now that i have stirred up the female hornet's nest here i shall go back to working for a living.....

 

[heatherrae]

now that i have stirred up the female hornet's nest here i shall go back to working for a living.....

you and calveless being the female hornet's nest? lol.

 

[jnevin]

No way I'm reading this shitbox of a thread.

Lemme guess... Some people got listed, some didn't, some people got shitty about it and this has become almost 400 posts of what peoples' idea of intelligent is.

Maybe throw some post whoring and an e-flirt session in for 30 posts or so.

I hate you all.

Except for who I like.

 

[Smurfy]

No way I'm reading this shitbox of a thread.

Lemme guess... Some people got listed, some didn't, some people got shitty about it and this has become almost 400 posts of what peoples' idea of intelligent is.

Maybe throw some post whoring and an e-flirt session in for 30 posts or so.

I hate you all.

Except for who I like.

fuckin genius

 

[jnevin]

fuckin genius

I painted all weekend. The fumes made me more intelligenter.

 

[Smurfy]

I painted all weekend. The fumes made me more intelligenter.

oh, i hire intelligently inferior minorities to do my painting.

 

[myway]

i am the smartest dude here, when my wife tells me to do something, i do it. happy wife happy life, see im smart.

TITCR!!!

 

[jnevin]

oh, i hire intelligently inferior minorities to do my painting.

My dog doesn't like them.

 

[all the whey]

I think you are all fucking idiots.

 

[MichaelScott]

thats what she said

 

[Spartacus]

lololol

id rather be that any day


rather than sit around and chuckle and debate with the honors class about who won the last spelling bee.

Not saying there is anything wrong with that ..... but....

TruMp, Gates.......these mother fuckers dont give a shit about any spelling bee.

I know we need both types of smart in this like but ill take me any fucking day of the week.........

Id rather be able to take a pile of mud and turn it into a pile of gold any fucking day.....

you can be both
this notion that intelligent "book smart" formally educated people have no common sense and/or "street smarts" is a myth

I think the greatest display of common sense is observing people drive a car
it's usually the "junkers" or lower socio-economic autos you see doing the dumb shit on the road

 

[heatherrae]

No way I'm reading this shitbox of a thread.

Lemme guess... Some people got listed, some didn't, some people got shitty about it and this has become almost 400 posts of what peoples' idea of intelligent is.

Maybe throw some post whoring and an e-flirt session in for 30 posts or so.

I hate you all.

Except for who I like.

 

[ceo]

No way I'm reading this shitbox of a thread.

Lemme guess... Some people got listed, some didn't, some people got shitty about it and this has become almost 400 posts of what peoples' idea of intelligent is.

Maybe throw some post whoring and an e-flirt session in for 30 posts or so.

I hate you all.

Except for who I like.

^^^^perhaps the smartest person on EF!

 

[musclemom]

you can be both
this notion that intelligent "book smart" formally educated people have no common sense and/or "street smarts" is a myth

I think the greatest display of common sense is observing people drive a car
it's usually the "junkers" or lower socio-economic autos you see doing the dumb shit on the road

I've known brilliant people who were dumb as shit about life stuff. Most of my former in-laws didn't have shit for common sense, and I've talked about that one boss I had that couldn't balance his own check book and that fucker had a Master's degree, but he literally was a total idiot about some very real stuff.

As for dummies driving shitbox cars, I've seen plenty of stupid shit done by people driving very expensive new cars, in fact, it seems like some of them almost hope to start shit with you when they see YOU have an older vehicle.

You just can't make generalizations about intelligence, period, it's case by case. There is no standard way to measure it.

Personally, I rely on the Forrest Gump method: Stupid Is As Stupid Does.

 

[jnevin]

^^^^perhaps the smartest person on EF!

*validation*

 

[calveless wonder]

*validation*

i actually mentioned you

for pity reasons

 

[jnevin]

i actually mentioned you

for pity reasons

You dickhole.

 

[nimbus]

LOLOLOLOL...

Clearly you are touchy today. You and I usually agree on most things. I think I just hit some weird sore spot that you have today. You may need to "walk it off." No one was talking about you, men in general, or being condescending to anyone.

sounds pretty condescending to me!!

 

[calveless wonder]

sounds pretty condescending to me!!

On behalf of heather

she thinks condescending = condensation

her mistake

 

[layinback]

i got a pm from who i consider to be the smartest person on

ef ( not on my original list ) i would venture to say that most

would agree that this individual is a brain in a vat. their name

is synonymous with SMART.

this unnamable went on to say that there are many forms

of intelligence and without an A priori it would sorta futile

to explore.

i agreed that intelligence is not quantitative. i explained that

that was not my motive in creating this thread. furthermore

i argued that as the thread evolved you would see more and

more philosophical musings and less and less list of smart

peeps. being highly intelligent, this nameless character

immediately got it lol

street smart vs. book smart. folks personal criteria for

smart. debates over who is smart on ef. is mood relative to

intelligence. intelligence relative to internet perception

ad infinitum

i'm pretty secure in my intellectual abilities and quite honestly

it's one of the few things that i am secure about. but i can tell

you from personal experience that a poor temperament can

negate ALL of your cerebral prowess. this is not a theory as i

have lived it.

my grandmother raised me and she was a alabama hillbilly

with a third grade education. i loved her dearly but we had

some heated arguments when i was a teenager .

when i was 18 i was on the lamb from the law and i slipped in

to see her. she was very upset because federal agents had

been harassing her for my where a bouts. i said "maw maw

i am a smart guy who knows what he's doin and you are an

old country woman with a third grade education"

she said " well i aint the one hooked on dope and going to

prison mr smarty pants. so you tell me who's smart"

pwned by granny

 

[ceo]

i got a pm from who i consider to be the smartest person on

ef ( not on my original list ) i would venture to say that most

would agree that this individual is a brain in a vat. their name

is synonymous with SMART.

Thanks bro. I appreciate what you said both in your reply, and here in the forum.

 

[jackangel]

there's a very important kind of intelligence that i wish i had more of. i'll call it a "living intelligence", or an "intelligence for life." it's what allows people to put into practice the things they already know or understand, but haven't actualized for one reason (excuse) or another. it makes possible the changes you need to make in order to live a happier life. typical examples include one's health (improving diet, exercise, sleep, etc.) and one's interactions with others (changing old patterns, modifying behaviour, etc.).

a traditional kind of intelligence brings us awareness of these issues. you can read a book, talk with people, think all day about who you are and what you might do and why it will work. i think all the fucking time about shit. there are a lot of people in this thread who clearly know what's up, in the realm of ideas.

but unless i get over myself and follow through with real changes which help me to evolve and become a different person...i haven't achieved any significant level of living intelligence.

 

[mountain muscle]

there's a very important kind of intelligence that i wish i had more of. i'll call it a "living intelligence", or an "intelligence for life." it's what allows people to put into practice the things they already know or understand, but haven't actualized for one reason (excuse) or another. it makes possible the changes you need to make in order to live a happier life. typical examples include one's health (improving diet, exercise, sleep, etc.) and one's interactions with others (changing old patterns, modifying behaviour, etc.).

a traditional kind of intelligence brings us awareness of these issues. you can read a book, talk with people, think all day about who you are and what you might do and why it will work. i think all the fucking time about shit. there are a lot of people in this thread who clearly know what's up, in the realm of ideas.

but unless i get over myself and follow through with real changes which help me to evolve and become a different person...i haven't achieved any significant level of living intelligence.

Boy I am screwed on that one too.

 

[jack sparrow]

I painted all weekend. The fumes made me more intelligenter.

I love the smell of paint!!

 

[calveless wonder]

there's a very important kind of intelligence that i wish i had more of. i'll call it a "living intelligence", or an "intelligence for life." it's what allows people to put into practice the things they already know or understand, but haven't actualized for one reason (excuse) or another. it makes possible the changes you need to make in order to live a happier life. typical examples include one's health (improving diet, exercise, sleep, etc.) and one's interactions with others (changing old patterns, modifying behaviour, etc.).

a traditional kind of intelligence brings us awareness of these issues. you can read a book, talk with people, think all day about who you are and what you might do and why it will work. i think all the fucking time about shit. there are a lot of people in this thread who clearly know what's up, in the realm of ideas.

but unless i get over myself and follow through with real changes which help me to evolve and become a different person...i haven't achieved any significant level of living intelligence.

that's just really the "observing ego". it's more of a skill or an awareness than an intelligence i believe. kinda just watching yourself in real time and focused on the present moment

 

[Spartacus]

I've known brilliant people who were dumb as shit about life stuff. Most of my former in-laws didn't have shit for common sense, and I've talked about that one boss I had that couldn't balance his own check book and that fucker had a Master's degree, but he literally was a total idiot about some very real stuff.

As for dummies driving shitbox cars, I've seen plenty of stupid shit done by people driving very expensive new cars, in fact, it seems like some of them almost hope to start shit with you when they see YOU have an older vehicle.

You just can't make generalizations about intelligence, period, it's case by case. There is no standard way to measure it.

Personally, I rely on the Forrest Gump method: Stupid Is As Stupid Does.

it's the exceptions that you remember
and you're discounting the trophy wives driving a Porsche SUV
in a world in which making the most currency is what the overwhelming majority try to do (that's why it's called currency)
mostly the inteligent "booksmart" do best

for every millionaire that dropped out of high school/college whatever
there's 20 who didn't

 

[blueta2]

The other arguement to intelligence is the ability to be happy. I don't necessarily agree with this, but the book claims that those that live happily are the most intelligent- although i think that's a philisophical matter.

I don't agree either. Happiness is also an illusion. Anyone who's happy all the time either lives in denial about life or is a liar.

People with higher intelligence (as with high IQ's) are often borderline psychotic and or depressed therefore never knowing true "happiness". Their embodiment is all about perfection. Trying to achieved perfection leaves one open to true unhappiness

Contentment is sought out by those with a healthy EQ. With true contentment one can live with both spectrums of total happiness and total sadness.
Intelligence and happiness cannot coexist

 

[jackangel]

that's just really the "observing ego". it's more of a skill or an awareness than an intelligence i believe. kinda just watching yourself in real time and focused on the present moment

are you trying to correct me? i'll fucking cut your heart out.

 

[blueta2]

I scored very high on my IQ test in high school, but I honestly don't feel THAT smart. I know i'm very creative though and I've realized that's why I did well, and probably why i did well in life... because when it comes to some things, like my memory and finance and numbers- i'm practically retarded, but i'm creative enough to work with what I have and make good decisions.

Like me. I did an IQ test when I was 19 with my therapist. I got a high score which didn't mean shit to me since I was only 19 and had only 19 yrs of life experience. My skills for # is also very distorted.

People with deep psychosis like the Ted Bundy's or the Jeff Dalmers are normally in the 140-150 range.
People with above average IQ's., think and worry to much and they either internalize that pain or externalize it and act out.

Being creative is internalizing it. I also write and paint, but also destroy myself with the need to be perfect.

 

[musclemom]

it's the exceptions that you remember
and you're discounting the trophy wives driving a Porsche SUV
in a world in which making the most currency is what the overwhelming majority try to do (that's why it's called currency)
mostly the inteligent "booksmart" do best

for every millionaire that dropped out of high school/college whatever
there's 20 who didn't

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I've taken a lot of orders from a lot of dumb son of a bitches, both male and female, who had more "book learning" than I did and if it wasn't for me and people like me they wouldn't be able to tie their own shoes.

I've also observed that the higher levels of education a person achieves the more they discount the value of the opinions of people who didn't acquire that level of education, you start encountering more and more academic snobbery.

Be that it may, it's my personal observation that the general overall intellectual "fluidity" of America is becoming increasing stagnant. By that I mean that natural selection has been eliminated, no longer weeding out the inferior intellect (which used to die of mishap, generally through their own stupidity) and they are, in fact, breeding in higher numbers than the supposed "better minds." Meanwhile, we increasingly reward minds that are very good at retaining an awful lot of information about a comparatively narrow field. We reward people who are good at learning information in a certain prescribed manner but not the ones that think "outside the box." We do not acknowledge creative use of intellect within the public educational system, and the student who may be quite bright but doesn't necessarily have a good rote memory or isn't mathematically strong is often overlooked and rarely encouraged.

I'd be very interested to see what the society is going to be like in another say 500 years.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I've always wanted a wife

A wife with a penis ROCKS. LOL

True story:

1. chemistry GENIUS can manipulate any product that he manufactures to meet client specs - ALL TOTALLY environmentally friendly products that actually do what they are supposed to do - clean shit/shine shit/put out fires.

2. MBA with 20+ years experience in corporate America - has made a ton a dough - knows all about business plans and how to do all sorta fancy spreadsheets.

Yet their business is 6 weeks from closing their doors after 3 years of trying to make a buck.

3. MBA with 20+ years experience as an entrepeneur plus his wife who only completed 2 years undergrad and been his protege for bout 2 years.

Now company X that was 6 weeks from closing it's doors have a private label deal with one of the largest custom motor cycle franchises in the United States and stands to become multi-billion dollar global presence.

Question is, who is smartest?

1, 2 or 3?

 

[bigmann245]

A wife with a penis ROCKS. LOL

True story:

1. chemistry GENIUS can manipulate any product that he manufactures to meet client specs - ALL TOTALLY environmentally friendly products that actually do what they are supposed to do - clean shit/shine shit/put out fires.

2. MBA with 20+ years experience in corporate America - has made a ton a dough - knows all about business plans and how to do all sorta fancy spreadsheets.

Yet their business is 6 weeks from closing their doors after 3 years of trying to make a buck.

3. MBA with 20+ years experience as an entrepeneur plus his wife who only completed 2 years undergrad and been his protege for bout 2 years.

Now company X that was 6 weeks from closing it's doors have a private label deal with one of the largest custom motor cycle franchises in the United States and stands to become multi-billion dollar global presence.

Question is, who is smartest?

1, 2 or 3?

you are

 

[Bikini Mod]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I've taken a lot of orders from a lot of dumb son of a bitches, both male and female, who had more "book learning" than I did and if it wasn't for me and people like me they wouldn't be able to tie their own shoes.

I've also observed that the higher levels of education a person achieves the more they discount the value of the opinions of people who didn't acquire that level of education, you start encountering more and more academic snobbery.

Be that it may, it's my personal observation that the general overall intellectual "fluidity" of America is becoming increasing stagnant. By that I mean that natural selection has been eliminated, no longer weeding out the inferior intellect (which used to die of mishap, generally through their own stupidity) and they are, in fact, breeding in higher numbers than the supposed "better minds." Meanwhile, we increasingly reward minds that are very good at retaining an awful lot of information about a comparatively narrow field. We reward people who are good at learning information in a certain prescribed manner but not the ones that think "outside the box." We do not acknowledge creative use of intellect within the public educational system, and the student who may be quite bright but doesn't necessarily have a good rote memory or isn't mathematically strong is often overlooked and rarely encouraged.

I'd be very interested to see what the society is going to be like in another say 500 years.

I do believe, MM that you are most likely one of the most brilliant individuals on EF or anywhere for that matter.

But I've already told ya that... many times.