Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Hi all, newb here. I'm a 21/M that weighs about 110 and is sick of being a walking skeleton. I've also got the skinny neck syndrome--you know, with the protruding Adam's apple. Just recently I've being thinking about juicing, but I dunno anything about doing it. What would everyone recommend? I'm not trying to become the next Arnold or anything, I'd just like a decent, semi-beefy body with nice abs, naturally. Thanks in advance
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DJ_UFO
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Don't even think about drugs to grow. By your stats I guess you've never touched a dumbell in your life. First thing, keep reading this board about training and nutrition. Learn as much as you can. If you have douts or question just ask here. You are young and with good excercise, nutrition, motivation you can grow a lot in a year. You need discipline and be focused on what you want. It depends on you. No in drugs.
Well I definitely wouldn't be going nuts, I know in small doses steroids can be taken safely. I would be very cautious. Who makes the best candidates for juicers? I'm young, but I think my body has pretty much stopped growing, and I read about how steroids may potentially stop bone growth. I don't think I have that to worry about.
The thing is, I do have a nice gym set in my house and I've used it, and I've been drinking some protein drinks too... but it's definitely not enough. I've read countless times that to get big naturally, I need to be eating constantly, about 6 times a day, but I don't have the time. I'm either at school or work 90% of the time.
Would a little juice on the side be so harmful? Appreciate the help.
The thing is, I do have a nice gym set in my house and I've used it, and I've been drinking some protein drinks too... but it's definitely not enough. I've read countless times that to get big naturally, I need to be eating constantly, about 6 times a day, but I don't have the time. I'm either at school or work 90% of the time.
Would a little juice on the side be so harmful? Appreciate the help.
DJ_UFO
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Uice said:
That's why I'm telling you. You don't know about it. If you don't have time to eat, forget it. You have to make the time for what is more important. If you don't train properly and don't eat as you should, steroids will give you only negative effects to your health that you'll not know how to deal with. If you don't have a well organized nutrition plan and a workout schedule, steroids will give you only temporary water retention and no muscle. I repeat. Keep reading this board. Read everything you can. Learn and learn and learn again. Is the only way.
if you dont have the time to eat properly then you dont have the time to commit to steroids
steroids wont help much if your 110 and undereating.. youll put on water weight and some muscle during the cycle then when you stop the cycle you will drop down to 110 within a few months
go read up on the diet board and learn how to plan out 6 meals a day.. its all about the dedication not looking for a shortcut..
the training board is another great source of info as well..
good luck
steroids wont help much if your 110 and undereating.. youll put on water weight and some muscle during the cycle then when you stop the cycle you will drop down to 110 within a few months
go read up on the diet board and learn how to plan out 6 meals a day.. its all about the dedication not looking for a shortcut..
the training board is another great source of info as well..
good luck
You're getting good advice from everybody so far. To increase in weight you need to eat more...period. You can't produce muscles out of thin air.
To make the weight gain preferencially muscle and not fat, you need to eat high protein, moderate to low carb and fat meals 6-8 times per day. And, you need to stress you muscles with resistance training intensly enough and often enough to make them grow.
Steroids can help your muscles recover and grow more quickly after a workout so that you're ready to work them again. That's it...no magic.
If you're not eating and training properly then AAS is at best a waste of money and at worst a detriment to your health.
To make the weight gain preferencially muscle and not fat, you need to eat high protein, moderate to low carb and fat meals 6-8 times per day. And, you need to stress you muscles with resistance training intensly enough and often enough to make them grow.
Steroids can help your muscles recover and grow more quickly after a workout so that you're ready to work them again. That's it...no magic.
If you're not eating and training properly then AAS is at best a waste of money and at worst a detriment to your health.
fugetaboutit
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Uice said:
Listen,
I don't know what your financial situation looks like, but you didn't mention it's a concern either...specially if you can buy steroids, but not having enough time to eat your 6 meals a day is bullshit. Financially speaking, if you have the money you can buy a box of protein bars so you can have one on the way to class. You can buy already made shakes so you can drink them during work. You can buy special foods (like protein enriched pasta) so you get more protein when you eat your spaghetti for lunch. If you have time at night to watch tv, then you have time to cook and prepare your meals for the next day. I , along with many people on this board, work 10 hours or more a day and somehow find time to hit the gym in the morning and cook my meals at night for the next day (well sometimes my wife does it for me). BUT I make sure I eat 6 meals a day. Did you know that a meal replacement shake could count as one of your 6 meals? Or did you think that you would have to eat 6 lunches or dinners? It is possible to do it my friend. Just like everyone else said on here, if you can't eat, the juice won't do shit. It litteraly won't. You should get into a real gym, start feeling the flow (and the pumps), get used to eating more, drink more shakes, eat more protein bars, start putting on some weight, and THEN consider anabolics. If you don't have the change in lifestyle first, then you won't have it at all. Good luck.
riverrock
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Get at least 1 years natural training under your belt first. You need to eat lots of proteins from fish, meats, chicken brest, nuts etc (minimum of a gram per pound of bodyweight), train correctly, and get proper rest. You don't grow in the gym - the training done in the gym is the stimulus that causes the body to grow when you're resting and taking proper nutrition.. Told that to a guy once in my gym and his reply was "wow, that's an interesting theory"! You can put on alot of size and strength naturally by following the same basic rules that any bodybuilder follows in terms of training, rest, and diet. Then, after a year of training, knowledge, and research you can consider what path you wish to follow in your traiing next.....
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bluetwistedsteel67
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Bro listen to everyone here. You asked who the best candidate for juice is? It's without question the person that has been lifting for a few years and has reached his genetic limit (or very close to it). It's aslo somebody that has their diet totally dialed and knows how to work out with intensity. The absolute WORST candidate is someone with little to no muscle mass, a sporadic diet and a inconsistant workout routine. Juice should only be taken bt those that are bordering on being obsessive with muscle growth. If you don't have time to eat you can't possibly have the time to work out properly. Actually (don't take this as a flame) if you don't have time to eat you are poor at time management. Make your food at night for the next day or two. Shit make some natural peanut butter sandwiches and carry them in your backback. Eat one of those every 2 hours and your set. Eat a big breakfast and a big dinner and bust your ass in the gym. One other thing, join a gym! You need the atmosphere in my opinion for motivation. Just don't juice bro. I've seen it happen before. Young guy thinks he can sauce up hit the weights a little, maybe eat a bit more and take some supplemental protein and he's goint to gain 10-15 pounds of muscle. It doesn't happen. It is tough enough to grow with EVERYTHING dialed in (diet, program and juice) You're going to dee no gains in lean mass at all - not 1 pound without diet and weights. Juice will just give you acne and make you moody.
bluetwistedsteel67
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mnymakr smells blood. This kid is going to get taken for about $500 is my opinion. What is the over/under on how many pm's he gets offering an answer to his desire? I'll take the over whatever it is.
cyborg2004
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LOL, same thing I was thinking!bluetwistedsteel67 said:
Wow, thanks for all the feedback, everyone. I'm glad I decided to post here before I did something really stupid. Between all the crap I have going on in my life, I didn't think it was possible to "eat big", but I guess I've been proven wrong. I'll start exploring the boards a little more.
wellbilt
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if you cant grow without juice yu wont grow with juice get your diet and training ijn order way before usin aas check out the training and diet forums lots of good peeps and info seriously steroids are not a magic potion the gains dont come easy as most expect them, most people think its easy and you just blow right up i know people who used lots of juice for years with very little results untill the finally figured out how to train and eat, you have to train balls out and eat like a mofo to grow good luck and welcome to the board
TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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Apexx said:You gotta eat BIG to get BIG
You could easily put on 50 lbs. if you learned how what and when to eat and train...gear for you is a galaxy away...you have many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many days of eating 6-7 meals a day and hitting the weights about 4 days a weeks nailing every muscle in your body once hard in those 4 days a week.
fugetaboutit
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Rod555 said:
True dat. Carbs could be his friend right now. He could get away with eating a lot of carbs right now as long as he keeps the fat in check.
i have made the mistake of not eating enough druing a cycle and didn't grow much at all. Listen to these guys, they are right on the money with their advice. i have been lifting for 9years and still are making gains naturally inbetween cycles since i only do two a year. and it is true, you will make amazing gains naturally your first 2 years with out any juice. i'd be willing to bet with the peanut sandwich in the bag advice, a multi vitamin, and some protien combined with a solid heavy workout program you'd probably put on 20lbs that first year. also, if your lifting more than an hour at the gym if your doing one muscle group a day your probably over training if your busting your ass while your there, so the lifting part doesn't have to be as time consuming as i think your mind is making it. you tear it down at the gym, but i'd say 70% of your gains come from a proper diet and sleep. just someting to think about.
Thanks again for all the help, all of you collectively rock. I have so many bad habits right now--not eating enough, not working out, not getting enough sleep, etc etc etc. I guess I'd better start getting some semblance of a normal sleep pattern going. And weekly food shopping seems like another must-do. Now it's just a matter of being able to sustain this training.
Boston Strangler
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you need to learn and read and be a sponge on this website. DO all of the things you can do to not touch any gas until you have exhausted all options, then you will be ready to get on the gear
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