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Simple ?, benching 150 over your body weight impressive?
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Punch,I would consider you one of the strongest humans on the planet in the bench based on weight to pounds lifted. From the sound of it you remind me of this Army guy that lifts at my gym he is no more than 190 and right at 6'. I've seen him do reps to 4 or five with 315. He doesn't look big at all he's just crazy dense and very very strong. I'm sure he could do a single with close to 350. He can bust out crazy push ups as well something he's been developing over several years in the Army and competing in some sort of Army fitness competition.
spatts said:You guys might be interested in checking the raw federation numbers for the ligther weight classes.
I've done that. Some of those benches are simply incredible.
As for this particular argument, If you're 190 and benching 350, I am impressed. It's almost twice your bodyweight, for Christ's sake. I hope I can do it one day ...
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height has MUCH to do with it also. A 6'5 at 190 is going to bench WAY less than a 5'9 at 190. ROM is much less for the shorter individual.
CobraUtah.. Thanks. I think the wieght, for me is good. Im happy with it. I have only done it once and that was a year ago. Now I dont use as much wieght, I lift heavy dont get me wrong, but I havnt maxed in ages and my chest LOOKS better than it ever has. I get much more of a pump getting 8-10 reps on the Incline bench than going for a huge lift. I did it once, that was enough for me. Peace
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spatts said:
Are you kidding? There are other factors than just ROM. For example, the sheer fact that the taller person is going to have more bone mass and skin mass puts him at a disadvantage as far as muscle mass %. Thus a 5'9 person weighing 190 has about (just crudely estimating) has the MUSCLE MASS as a 6'5 person at 220.
ProteinFiend said:
at the begining your correct. here is a life lesson. when you have to guys start training together at the same time, weather it be for strength or size, the shortter guy will look bigger and be pushing more weight thatn the taller guy, becuase of him having a greater rom, and having more bone to stretch the muscle over.
................. but
when the time goes by, the taller guy will be bigger and stronger. the strongest guys arent the short guys, and look at the tallest bodybuilders, takes them a heck of a lot longer to fill out but when they do the shorter guy doesnt stand a chance. dont belive me............ why havent lee preist or shawn ray ever won the mr. o???......... becuase they are about 6 inches shorter than ronnie......... now gunter has come from no where the last 3 years and gotten hhhhhhhhhuuuuuugggggeee....... and he's about 4 inches taller than ronnie, and he makes ronnie look small.....
bigger arms and legs, are just bigger leavers
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In your original post you say it's because he's taller. Then in your second post you say it's because of the weight at different heights. Success in the bench press depends on technique. Some people have their legs out in front, some tuck and arch. You can have a guy with long legs that has barney arms and a long torso...so he can arch up high and use his little 3 " bench stroke to get the job done. Being a woman, I can think of a lot of men that are taller than me, but weigh the same thing (same LBM), and bench more...I can also think of many who bench less. You can have all the mass in the world, but if you can't recruit it, you're worthless. Height is about the least important factor. If you're using your legs to bench, depending on set up, short or long legs can both be a disadvantage/advantage. No one factor is determinant, especially when you factor in mental strength.
Since I'm 5'9" I will use myself as an example. I have 160 pounds of lean mass (by hydro and 7 site caliper). Likewise, a person 6'5" and 220 can be 20% fat or 5% fat...makes a difference in what he can bench. Composition, even when accurate and optimal, is still just one of many factors. I mean you're 7 inches taller than me, and weigh about the same...so you should bench a lot less than me, right? But wait, you have 15 more pounds of LBM, so you bench more? Let's say I have better technique and I'm more focused...now who benches more?
Since I'm 5'9" I will use myself as an example. I have 160 pounds of lean mass (by hydro and 7 site caliper). Likewise, a person 6'5" and 220 can be 20% fat or 5% fat...makes a difference in what he can bench. Composition, even when accurate and optimal, is still just one of many factors. I mean you're 7 inches taller than me, and weigh about the same...so you should bench a lot less than me, right? But wait, you have 15 more pounds of LBM, so you bench more? Let's say I have better technique and I'm more focused...now who benches more?
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