Simple ?, benching 150 over your body weight impressive?

[CobraUTAH]

I'm in a debate on another board about lifting. One guy is claiming that a guy weighing 190 and benching 350 isn't that impressive. This 190 pound guy isn't me, but I think that in the event that a 190 pounder can lift 160 over his body weight and hit 350 bench is pretty damn good. This other guy is claiming that 300-400 pound bench maxes are nothing. This maybe true for real big guys but what do you consider amazing bench strength? I consider someone that can lift 150 over there body weight to be incredibly strong no matter how much they weigh.

 

[bignate73]

tell whoever you are debating with to consider strength to weight ratio. if that guy is 230-250 and he thinks 300-400 is nothing, he may be right..but for a person under 200lbs, its damn good.

 

[CobraUTAH]

It is all about weight ratio, but to me just about anyone lifting close to or over 400 is crazy strong. I have only seen a 495 bench twice before and it was buy college football lineman that both weight over 300 pounds. This guy makes it sound like bench weight like that is lifted by every 2 in 5 guys in america.

 

[Exodus]

well......... your not going to win this war. its an opinion, he believes a 300-400lb bench is nothing. you think it is something. so let that be...............i think its wrong to be in porno movies, ron jeremy disagrees............. so thats it, we have our own opinions. and we will not convince each other. so what do you hope to gain by having this guy agree with you??? you have to pick your battles in life, and this is one you should let go........

a wise man once told me this........ opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, and everyone thinks that everybody but theirs stinks.

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[Mike_Rojas]

Just ask yourself this: What percentage of 190 pounders in your gym can bench 350+ ?

In the gym I used to go to, I would say less than 5% of the members could use that kind of weight, and most of them weighed 250+. So that's impressive. Is it impressive on a world record scale? No. Is it impressive at Nazareth Barbell? No. For most gym across the world it is impressive.

 

[spatts]

I was talking to Mule about this the other day. We were talking about the different way people measure strength. This was about the time that pwr_machine posted that bigguns had the highest coefficient of just about anyone on the boards...and that is true. Mule looks at strength by how much you can do over your body weight in pounds. This method leaves some of the high Co-E folks in the background.

Even in storngman/woman comps there's debate about whether or not those events are truly the measure of strength.

You could debate it all day long, but that time would be better spent working on being stronger tomorrow than you were today. I don't know about you, but it's enough work kicking my own ass.

 

[punch]

I think this is where the debate of Power Lifter V.S. Bodybuilder comes into play. 150 lbs over body wieght if your 195 or 250 lb is irrelevant if your a bodybuilder. As a PL bodywieght to wieght lifted ratio is more relevant. I will tell you this. I am 190 and my 1rm is 350lb. I dont give a shit what anyone says, that is a great bench.

As a BB if I have a 52 inch chest and am shredded at the same time who cares if I bench 225. Its all how you look at it. Peace

 

[CobraUTAH]

Exodus your a monster so for you those numbers are nothing and I've seen your pictures and believe your abilites. This dude is 190 and 6' says 350 and 400 are nothing special. I feel that someone under 200 that thinks those numbers are nothing, is crazy. If a 275 to 300 pound dude said that I'd agree. It's all ratios, small guys can't say or pretend that 300-400 pound benches are easy or weak. On the same side 300 pound dudes shouldn't say that 600 pound benches are small change either.

 

[CobraUTAH]

Punch how tall are you?

 

[Exodus]

Exodus your a monster so for you those numbers are nothing and I've seen your pictures and believe your abilites.

thanks for the compliments, that means a lot to me. but belive it or not. i only bench 315 weighing 261. now by this guys numbers i have a very weak bench.

like punch said, i spend 4 years working out for size not strength, thats the biggest reason i look as big as i do, im just now really getting into training for strength. bench is a weak exercise for me, but im working to fix that very very soon.

but its just all person. i think i have a good bench, for me. its the most ive ever benched . so i think its a big bench.

again, thats just my opinon.

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