severe acne problem

[freakazoid]

i staeted with a gram of sust,800 mg deca,320 mg fina per week shooting divided doses eod.i started getting acne on shoulders and back,not to bad at first but then after about 6 weeks it was so bad it was like every poure was a pimple.i cut doses in half and clean skin with almost everything you can think of.i feel topical acne solutions are a waste of time because these pimples are comming from the inside out,as opposed to the kind people get that are from dirt,oil that starts on top of the skin.they are starting to leave scars on my back and shoulders.what kind of oral med can i take for this?i am trying to avoid accutaine if at all possible

 

[impulse3k]

I've heard good things about high doses of Vitamin B5, upwards of 5 grams.

 

[hardrock]

I feel ya bro! My upper bsck and shoulders are so broken out and sensative I can barely touch them. Try popping them, OUCH!!!! I never break out like this either. I've also never been on a cycle this long.

 

[tiger88]

yea accutane did me well but it sucks while on it, go tanning and try b5 for before accutane and o yea sqauting with zits on my shoulders hurts likes a mothefucker...

 

[jrw667s]

Accutane and Anabolics

Accutane isn't good for the liver to begin with, so the addition of anabolics won't help your cause. Although accutane will most assuredly help with the acne, it is also known to cause depression for the duration of its use. Considering that many people report post-cycle gain losses as a contributor for lower mental health, I would suggest staying away from accutane; Yet those who are more accustomed to the effects of anabolics may feel that the accutane-induced side effects arern't something of concern. I have just barely dabbled with anabolics, yet I do know that 10% benzoyl peroxide used regularly along w/ 2% (w/w) salicylic acid tanning will help dry just about anything.

I can't say I know anything about vitamin B5, but I'd give it a try if I feel the need.

 

[mrflexdiesel]

I didn't want to do Accutane either, but nothing else would work so I said screw it. Can't stand zits! They have to be one of the worst damn things in the world. I actually have been using a small dosage of Accutane just once every two or three days for the past year or so, and it is working wonderful w/o any serious side effects.

 

[Testosterone Spike]

I'm on accutane right now. Started at 20mg for 2 weeks, then bumped it up to 40 for 3 weeks, and now I am at 80 for the next 3 months. It seems to be doing something; my lips are drying out like a mofo. I am also taking b5 (pantothenic acid) at 3g a day for a few weeks and then lowering to 1 or 2g. My acne gets real bad going on or coming off. Clomid only makes it worse. This should answer your questions as far as b5 helping your acne. Very interesting article:
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3f978/B5_FAQ.html
good luck,
docv

 

[Enock]

You guys talk as if accutane is easy to obtain.
For those with out health insurance that will cover it, its extremely expensive to order it from over seas.

IP accutane was affordable but all the sources carrying dried up.
Alot of sources stopped carrying IP stuff altogether.

I will say b5 helps a lil bit.
Tanning go now.. its definitly a horrible long term solution but its the one thing u can do immediatly that will have a decent impact.


Antiobiotics are cheap.. They don't aways work well. When I was younger the derm put me on them and they never worked.. Now I'm ordering them myself and using larger doses and i'm clear.

Bactrim
Doxycycline
Tetracycline

are the three I use.... Don't get me wrong I'd love to use Accutane it actually FIXES the problem instead of circumventing it. but when its not your option antibiotics and sun and B5 r your best bet

 

[THeMaCHinE]

I just started running 10 gr/day of B5 and am seeing some reduction; haven't been on it long enough to see the full impact though. A lot of the old threads that I searched said 10 gr/day was the way to go with B5.

 

[freakazoid]

thanks guys,i had good results with trying to open them up and then using clairol herbal essences,oil controlling astringent.after i used it i cleared up at least 60%.i will try the vit b also now

 

[Slyder190]

B5

Tried it. Found it worthless personally.

 

[CLOBRO]

B5 works very well for me at 5 grams a day for 2 weeks, then 2 grams maintainence.

 

[rottweiler75]

Go to the source of the problem instead of sticking a bandaid on it. Try using finesteride and/or try the topical Azelic acid (skinoren in Europe) both work on DHT which activates the sebaceous glands in the first place. If you want to go the Vitamin A route (drying out the sebaceous glands), I would stick with retin-A .1% it is more a localized treatment, you can find it through some european pharms online (they dont make 1% in the states) same with the Azelic acid. As far as the other anti-bacterial agents they can be usualful short lived. The body gets use to them pretty quick (triclosan, benz ect..), the best thing to do is to continously switch products (active ingredients), to keep the body guessing. A good product to get the oil off the skin is dermolgicas Dermal clay cleanser, it kind feels like a mud pack and you can wear it as a mask. So to work all different aspects would be the best approach (anti-DHT, dry the skin out, a anti bacteria, and something to strip the skin of existing oil). As far as Accutane, dont be a dipshit no one should be on that drug without frequent blood work. Someone who recommends that must like to gamble with there health. The drug is very hard on the liver and kidneys. Most doctors will take blood tests every 2 weeks for patients on it. Mix that with like 3 different anabolics and you fall in the class of STUPID. I was on it 3 times in HS and every time I was pissing and shitting blood (fun fun fun). With the topical Retin-A and the skinoren, be patient they take time to work (remember Vitamin A is fat solouble, so it will accumulate over time). Peace , be safe.

 

[CanadianBro]

As far as Accutane, dont be a dipshit no one should be on that drug without frequent blood work. I was on it 3 times in HS and every time I was pissing and shitting blood (fun fun fun).

It is correct that Accutane is quite a potent antibiotic and blood tests are recommended however your experience with the blood
is quite rare. In fact, I have never heard of this situation with
the use of Accutane.

My recommendation...

Go to your Dermatologist, get a script for the accutane and take
a blood test every 6-8 weeks (or follow your doctors
recommendation if more often).

Be sure to purchase some Blistex Medicated Lip Lotion (for
chapped lips). DO NOT USE REGULAR CHAP STICK. This will
just cover up the chapped lips and not heal them.

Also be sure to wash and clean your face 2-4 times per day and
apply a non-comodegenic cream after each wash.

These precautionary measures will take care of 98% of the
problems associated with Accutane and will have your body
cleared up within a few weeks.

Good luck!

 

[Lawnboy]

Your Doctor isnt aloud to give a script without a clean blood test, so usually you will have to get blood work every month.

b-5 works! 7-10grams a day

www,puritan.com has an amazing sale. Buy 2 bottles get 3 free.

 

[GrowthHor]

I hear ya on the acne, it pisses me off to no end. I think that shaving certain areas of your body can aggravate the situation as well. I used to shave my forearms, and although it can look good to be all 'shaved up' within 7-10 days it would look like I had chicken pox from all the acne.

Haven't done a real cycle in years but am on the HRT thing now with test 200mg/week and HGH 1 IU 6 days/week. Everything's starting to kick in now after a couple of months and I'm getting that absurd acne on my shoulders.

Last thing I'm going to do is go whining to my doctor since he'll probably want to cut the test dosage so before I do that I'm going to try the B5 and hit the tanning bed more. That article on B5 sounds really promising, and it looks like it has other good effects besides just acne reduction.

I'm also going to up my zinc intake and start saw palmetto 320/mg ED, since I've heard these really help to cut DHT which is another catalyst to acne.

 

[rottweiler75]

Isotretinoin may infrequently cause pancreatic disease
(pancreatitis), which rarely can be fatal. Stop taking this
medication and tell your doctor immediately if you develop:
severe stomach pain, severe or persistent nausea/vomiting.
Stop taking this medication and tell your doctor immediately
if you develop these unlikely but serious side effects: severe
headache, vision changes, ringing in the ears or hearing loss,
dark urine or yellowing eyes and skin, severe diarrhea, rectal
bleeding.
<<straight from the insert when you buy the drug from rite aid. Ya it is rare just like sexual side effects are rare on SSRI's. Point is dont mess around with the drug, unless your getting frequent blood work.
I have never heard of it being called a "potent antibotic" before either. It is actually a mega does of vitamin A that dries the sebaceous glands out. There is also alot of scaring that goes along with the treatment in alot of cases. HMMM sounds like a great drug to me.

 

[freakazoid]

Go to the source of the problem instead of sticking a bandaid on it. Try using finesteride and/or try the topical Azelic acid (skinoren in Europe) both work on DHT which activates the sebaceous glands in the first place. If you want to go the Vitamin A route (drying out the sebaceous glands), I would stick with retin-A .1% it is more a localized treatment

thanks bro would you know where i could get info on ordering some of these products? every time i start clearing up,more appear its like almost every pore on my back/shoulders is a zit.i am embarressed to wear my sleveless shirts and no way in hell would i go shirtless my back looks like shit,this sux.its almost enough to make me go natural,almost.

 

[Jman88]

Put a cup or 2 of bleach in your bath and sit in it for 20 minutes 2-3 times a week. That's worked well for me.

 

[bigerisbetter]

Panthothenic acid has always worked well for me. You can get it at GNC.

 

[Lestat]

see a dematologist and ask for an oral antbiotic... doxycycline works.. so does minocycline.

Forget the topics lie retin A.. you need something tougher.

 

[doubles1]

i used accutane sucked. big time results too so long but now im happy 5 mo's later and on cycle now and no breakouts from test/fina...

danks.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

It is the sustanon that is doing it to you. No acne cure will work, except a heavy dose of accutane and that can really fuck you up. My advice is to live and learn and don't use Sustanon any longer.

I have completely limited test to no more than 250 mg a week in my cycles due to acne. Haven't had a problem since I started this protocol.

 

[GrowthHor]

I agree with limiting test intake.

I just re-read the original post and a 'gram a week of sust' - LOL!

No wonder you're one giant zit freakazoid. Anything over 300mg/week test and my acne is completely ridiculous, and I'm embarrassed to take off my shirt, which negates the whole point of the gear somewhat eh? Especially in the summer months. I had a friend once who never got ANY acne whatsoever even at 600+mg/week. You have to do what works for YOUR body, not what looks good on paper.

I saw that you also posted that it's enough to make you think about going natural, as if those are the only two choices:

A. Doing a gram and a half a week of gear and being covered in what looks like posion oak meets the chicken pox.

or

B. Going natural

How about:

C. Doing just enough gear to keep you anabolic while limiting as much as possible the side effects such as acne, and working really really hard at the gym and eating an impeccable diet.

Not only will you save money but the in the long run you'll have more permanent and sustainable gains. I read this article once that made an amazing amount of sense. It was based on some actual research though. It said that the most permanent changes in body composition come after doing at least 10g of gear, with long term use at 30g providing amazing results.

There's a limit to how much muscle any human being can gain on a week by week basis, and I'm talking actual muscle, not bloated water or strength gains. The key is less gear applied over more time, to go and stay on for a long long time, adjusting your dosage to stay anabolic and limit side effects whilst working your butt off. Everyone wants a quick fix and to be a monster overnight and it ain't gonna happen for most, and they end up making a mess of themselves in the process.

 

[tiger88]

yea i took accutane sucked then but i am good now....running load of test and lots of d bol and just one pimple here and there......b5 didnt do shit for me

 

[firmbiz]

Maybe b5 doesnt work for every 1 but for me it cleared up my acne on my arms and shoulders within a week..i would say i was taking around 7-8 grams a day... my friend had similiar results...its worth a try..only 10 bucks for a bottle at gnc... now i dont have any pimples and im still taking dbol which is one of the worst acne producin aas....

 

[Euriskan]

For cheap B5, check out beyond a century and for body acne, I have found that RALA has really cleared it up for me. Between B5/ALA, acne is a non issue. But can't really comment on how effective it would be on your current cycle, I only do low dose cycles. There probably is only so much it will help with.

 

[chemwalla]

i use accutane on a low dose basis. 20mg ED or EOD. some studies have shown its about the cumulative dose.

anyway, my skin is totally clear with chapped lips as the only side effect.

i get the real thing for a decent price so if anyones interested pm me.

thought about the IP stuff as its cheaper but people say it doesnt come close to the real thing. if you have to take 3-4 to equal the real stuff, the price advantage disappears.