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scraping bar on knees during deadlifts?

a trap bar is a bad idea as well ..competing or not if your doing deads it to build the erectors etc a trap bar does not allow for the same groove as a regular deadlift bar..

cam shaft-are you doing a negative when you lower the bar? if so dont do that especially in a rack that where injury occurs ( on the negative) its called a deadlift there is no lowering of the weight..now most gyms will have a hissy fit if your slamming weights on the floor unless they have a DL area
 
wnt2bBeast said:
a trap bar is a bad idea as well ..competing or not if your doing deads it to build the erectors etc a trap bar does not allow for the same groove as a regular deadlift bar..

cam shaft-are you doing a negative when you lower the bar? if so dont do that especially in a rack that where injury occurs ( on the negative) its called a deadlift there is no lowering of the weight..now most gyms will have a hissy fit if your slamming weights on the floor unless they have a DL area

yes i HAVE been doing a negative on the way down. going slow and controlled. i guess im used to doing it on every other exercise. my gym does have a DL pad so im all set now.
 
2 Suggestions...

#1 Step up CLOSER to the bar, most people hit their shins because they're standing too far away from the bar and it swings in when they begin to pull.

#2 Stick your ass out behind you, your knees should be kept behind your toes. Allthough this is easier said than done for the tall guys.

-Ingram
 
Ingram said:
2 Suggestions...

#1 Step up CLOSER to the bar, most people hit their shins because they're standing too far away from the bar and it swings in when they begin to pull.

#2 Stick your ass out behind you, your knees should be kept behind your toes. Allthough this is easier said than done for the tall guys.

-Ingram

will lead to a rounded back
your ass should be down and under you not out in front..once you get to a heavy enough weight hes gonna wind up straight legging it possibly losing his arch and dumping it all on hius low back..

there are too many suggestions here and prolly just confusing you.. i cant link it up but go here for a ton of videos..
www.irongame.com
good pullers that i would watch
andy bolton
garry frank
ano turtianen
Ed coan
all styles are slightly different but if you look and try to copy one of those people youll be fine..make sure their body type is somehwat similar to yours
bolton/frank are rather large men ver 300
ano is very lean and lanky long arms and tall 6'4"
ed coan is 220lbs and stocky and one of the best pullers ever
 
wnt2bBeast said:
will lead to a rounded back
your ass should be down and under you not out in front..once you get to a heavy enough weight hes gonna wind up straight legging it possibly losing his arch and dumping it all on hius low back..

there are too many suggestions here and prolly just confusing you.. i cant link it up but go here for a ton of videos..
www.irongame.com
good pullers that i would watch
andy bolton
garry frank
ano turtianen
Ed coan
all styles are slightly different but if you look and try to copy one of those people youll be fine..make sure their body type is somehwat similar to yours
bolton/frank are rather large men ver 300
ano is very lean and lanky long arms and tall 6'4"
ed coan is 220lbs and stocky and one of the best pullers ever

thanks for that link.
 
wnt2bBeast said:
will lead to a rounded back
your ass should be down and under you not out in front..once you get to a heavy enough weight hes gonna wind up straight legging it possibly losing his arch and dumping it all on hius low back..

there are too many suggestions here and prolly just confusing you.. i cant link it up but go here for a ton of videos..
www.irongame.com
good pullers that i would watch
andy bolton
garry frank
ano turtianen
Ed coan
all styles are slightly different but if you look and try to copy one of those people youll be fine..make sure their body type is somehwat similar to yours
bolton/frank are rather large men ver 300
ano is very lean and lanky long arms and tall 6'4"
ed coan is 220lbs and stocky and one of the best pullers ever

good videos.. nice....
 
camshaft said:
yes i HAVE been doing a negative on the way down. going slow and controlled. i guess im used to doing it on every other exercise. my gym does have a DL pad so im all set now.

put the bar down with a "controlled drop." there is no need to go back down slowly with the bar. the DL is about getting the bar off the floor and locking it out.
 
Mr_MAX said:
....then i would get a trap bar... there is no reason to fuck up your shins..
unless you goal is to compete..using the straight bar... there are better bars...
Trap bar-----> http://sfuk.tripod.com/reviews/trapbar_review.html


We just got one of these bars in my gym to go with the new db's 150-200's. That bar rocks for shrugs but it feels much different for deads. You need to use a lot more hip movement and less back because you are more upright to fit through the center. it is good to switch things up though but man do your hip flexors hurt the next day. I think it makes your ass bigger too...this is just opinion not fact but my ass hurts like when i do squats when i use that bar.
 
Pull from the floor.

The bar does not touch my shins or my knees. If it does...my form is off.
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle...7D5D0A5C62D765DF64F7C6E7.ba08?article=194dead

Mistake #6: Keeping the shins too close to the bar

I'm not too sure where this started but I have a pretty good idea. Many times the taller, thinner lifters are the best pullers and they do start with the bar very close to their shins. But if you look at them from the sides they still have their shoulders behind the bar when they pull. This is just not possible to achieve with a thicker lifter.

If a thicker lifter with a large amount of body mass — be it muscle or fat — were to line the bar up with his shins, you'd see he would have an impossible time getting the shoulders behind the bar. Remember you need to pull the bar back toward you, not out and away from you. So what I believe happens is many lifters look to those who have great deadlifts to see how they pull, then try to do the same themselves. What they need to do is look to those who are built the same way they are and have great deadlifts and follow their lead.

B True
 
b fold the truth said:
Pull from the floor.

The bar does not touch my shins or my knees. If it does...my form is off.
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle...7D5D0A5C62D765DF64F7C6E7.ba08?article=194dead

Mistake #6: Keeping the shins too close to the bar

I'm not too sure where this started but I have a pretty good idea. Many times the taller, thinner lifters are the best pullers and they do start with the bar very close to their shins. But if you look at them from the sides they still have their shoulders behind the bar when they pull. This is just not possible to achieve with a thicker lifter.

If a thicker lifter with a large amount of body mass — be it muscle or fat — were to line the bar up with his shins, you'd see he would have an impossible time getting the shoulders behind the bar. Remember you need to pull the bar back toward you, not out and away from you. So what I believe happens is many lifters look to those who have great deadlifts to see how they pull, then try to do the same themselves. What they need to do is look to those who are built the same way they are and have great deadlifts and follow their lead.

B True

b-
i feel just the opposite.
i know you werent saying me-but i feel if the bar is hitting your shins you are not doing anything wrong..also like you said for you the bar does NOT hit your shins..when te bar is off my shins it seems to get out in front of me scaraping the shin is "my groove"..and trust me i need to get back to my groove because its been messed up lately lol
 
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