Saliva test AFTER results.. DERMACRINE!!

[AAP]

Ok guys, as promised when I got my second test back, at the two week mark of using DERMACRINE I would post the results. I will either scan this in or as last time when I didn't get access to a scanner, I will take a clear picture of the paper.

BEFORE RESULTS AFTER RESULTS
Date 2/26/07 3/12/07
Estrone 2.6 in range 0-3.0 2.1
Testosterone 190 High range = 44-148 202
DHEAS 15.8 range = 2-23 148.2

I think at this point it is clearcut that this stuff does indeed work.

 

[karter]

You should take the test agin in 3-4 weeks and see if you crash. That is the big question everybody wants to know.

 

[chazk]

You should take the test agin in 3-4 weeks and see if you crash. That is the big question everybody wants to know.

no doubt the dhea levels were raised but that amount of test increase is not significant enough to show a increase
slaiva test have a margin of error of up to 10% and your test didnt even raise past the margin of error on the test before and after increase

it does prove the dhea is making it through the skin just proves your body does not really convert much of it to test.But other people might have a better conversion rate then you do.

glad to see the transdermal part works real well..

to add to it your test levels were already in the high range... I would like to see someone with low test levels use the product .. I suspect the lower the test the more likley the body will convert the dhea into test and the people surpressed might be the ones getting better results then people that really dont need it in the first place.

 

[Mrpumped]

no doubt the dhea levels were raised but that amount of test increase is not significant enough to show a increase
slaiva test have a margin of error of up to 10% and your test didnt even raise past the margin of error on the test before and after increase

it does prove the dhea is making it through the skin just proves your body does not really convert much of it to test.But other people might have a better conversion rate then you do.

glad to see the transdermal part works real well..

to add to it your test levels were already in the high range... I would like to see someone with low test levels use the product .. I suspect the lower the test the more likley the body will convert the dhea into test and the people surpressed might be the ones getting better results then people that really dont need it in the first place.

Agreed. I couldn't have said it any better.

 

[Primordial Performance]

no doubt the dhea levels were raised but that amount of test increase is not significant enough to show a increase
slaiva test have a margin of error of up to 10% and your test didnt even raise past the margin of error on the test before and after increase

it does prove the dhea is making it through the skin just proves your body does not really convert much of it to test.But other people might have a better conversion rate then you do.

glad to see the transdermal part works real well..

to add to it your test levels were already in the high range... I would like to see someone with low test levels use the product .. I suspect the lower the test the more likley the body will convert the dhea into test and the people surpressed might be the ones getting better results then people that really dont need it in the first place.

Yes, this is true… if would have been nice to see a higher increase in test levels.

Its likely that AAP would benefit more from Derma Sustain as it would cause a more direct stimulation of testosterone from the testes, without relying on DHEA to covert to test. Derma Sustain will have a much more positive effect on LH and FSH.

A recent Dermacrine tester got his results back which showed a 600% increase in test levels after 2 weeks, and he started with similar test levels to AAP. This just goes to show the drastic difference in the conversion rate of DHEA to test in different people, no mater what levels they started out with. – All the more reason for the release of the new formula.

-Pp

 

[karter]

Yes, this is true… if would have been nice to see a higher increase in test levels.

Its likely that AAP would benefit more from Derma Sustain as it would cause a more direct stimulation of testosterone from the testes, without relying on DHEA to covert to test. Derma Sustain will have a much more positive effect on LH and FSH.

A recent Dermacrine tester got his results back which showed a 600% increase in test levels after 2 weeks, and he started with similar test levels to AAP. This just goes to show the drastic difference in the conversion rate of DHEA to test in different people, no mater what levels they started out with. – All the more reason for the release of the new formula.

-Pp

Good idea, release the new formula. It cost more money. Make since to me. And when that the new one does not work their will be another new one to try that is even better and even more expensive. End result they got your money!!!

 

[AAP]

Ok, considering that I already had high test levels before using it I can see why I didn't get a huge increase like that sissy needto who has the test levels of a girl scout. LOL

But I have always recovered fast. I have never done any PCT of any kind. My last cycle was 1 gram test weekly, 800mg EQ weekly and 3ius of GH daily and I didn't do any PCT and still came back with high levels of test.

Just the fact that it did do something shows what I said all along when I said that I "felt" it working. Someone with lower test levels would certainly get a better response than I did.

 

[AAP]

You should take the test agin in 3-4 weeks and see if you crash. That is the big question everybody wants to know.

I won't be able to answer that. I plan to start my cycle very soon.

 

[needtogetaas]

Ok, considering that I already had high test levels before using it I can see why I didn't get a huge increase like that sissy needto who has the test levels of a girl scout. LOL

But I have always recovered fast. I have never done any PCT of any kind. My last cycle was 1 gram test weekly, 800mg EQ weekly and 3ius of GH daily and I didn't do any PCT and still came back with high levels of test.

Just the fact that it did do something shows what I said all along when I said that I "felt" it working. Someone with lower test levels would certainly get a better response than I did.

wtf aap I thought you loved me.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Ok, considering that I already had high test levels before using it I can see why I didn't get a huge increase like that sissy needto who has the test levels of a girl scout. LOL

But I have always recovered fast. I have never done any PCT of any kind. My last cycle was 1 gram test weekly, 800mg EQ weekly and 3ius of GH daily and I didn't do any PCT and still came back with high levels of test.

Just the fact that it did do something shows what I said all along when I said that I "felt" it working. Someone with lower test levels would certainly get a better response than I did.

Even though the DHEA may not be getting rapidly converted to testosterone, it still has to convert to something. Unfortunately, the saliva tests cant test for the levels of androstenedione, androstenediol, androstenetriol, ect.— all of which are direct metabolites of DHEA and are sure to be boosted.

-Pp