Reasons why I wonder why I still like men:

[Frackal]

From these threads it appears that as a woman you are damned either way - if you do become what you think men want you to be you are a blood sucking, money grubbing bitch and if you don't you are a lazy fat good head sucking hole for the night.

Also, what exactly does this mean? Pretty and fit doesn't equate to money grubbing bitch....it's how you act


And what is a real man to you? Talk about damned if you do or don't - Women want you to be a gentleman in all the good ways but don't want to act like a 'lady' in return because it's 'degrading.'

Give me a break.


And with this attitude :

Frankly – there are many women out there don't need any of you we just keep you around to fit the social norm and get our own rocks off once and a while. Why? Because as you represent yourself as “men” on these boards, most of you are not man enough to be a real man anyway (and if you see that as untrue, stand up and say so).

I don't understand how you could be put off by my comment about sex.

 

[flexygrl]

One thing that I think is extremely important the we few women must remember is that this is primarily a man dominated board.

My husband is always telling me that sometimes men need to be with other men and just talk and not worry about what a women might say. I think that is what's going on with this board. The men are venting or talking about their experiences. They are not taking into account the women on this board, or how it might hurt us to hear such nastiness.

There is really nothing we can do. I do not think they will change. If some one gets dumped on tonight, you better believe that tomorrow morning their will be posting, how all women are hoes, selfish, gold diggers, fill in the blank here....

I sincerely hope that these men find a women one day that will make them eat their words. Until that happens I don't think that you should take these comments to heart at all. I know I don't.

I am not condoning anything that they do, but I chose not to make a big deal out of it, or to let it bother me. Trust me, these men here are not the norm. And most importantly a good man would never say any of this crap to our faces that we are reading almost on a daily basis.

The funny thing is I am sure I can bet money on the fact that my husband did his share of women bashing. I mean it really can be frustrating for them. And we have done our share too.

I don't know if any of this makes sense, I just felt a need to commnent.

 

[Imnotdutch]

Great post Velvett.

 

[Frackal]

Flexy girl makes some good points except I feel there is no reason why we should not speak out about frustrations...I don't think that makes us not "good men" or abnormal...I've listened to plenty of similiar sentiments at work and school...you guys are just exposed to it here more...

Also, I'd love to just date a girl and be able to have my main concern be whether I like her or not...unfortunately, the common woman attitude is, "We have equal rights except when it comes time to pay, then I want YOU to be a gentleman and shell out that cash."

That's the way things are, ok, but that makes it so I have to be practical and cold about things like you see in my comment above.

 

[flexygrl]

Hey Frackal,

How are you?

Couple of things:

When my hubby and I first started dating, yes he did pay for almost everything. I was a student and only working part time. I was lucky if I was bringing home $100 a week. When he didn't have money and I did, I always offered to pay. Most of the time we did things that were not expensive.

I always have and always will appreciate a man who treats a lady like a lady. I love when a man holds a door for me. Chivalry (sp) is not dead. The right girl will appreciate these things.

 

[big4life]

There will always be "boys" who want to play games and try to manipulate people, and then there will be "men" who who will be just who they say they are and treat people the right way.

Just as there will be "girls" who try to play games, and "women" who know who they are and what they want.

A man and a woman can make a great match.

A man and a girl, or a woman and a boy are disatsters in the making.

Just my .02.

 

[HULKSTER]

Please refer to my above post, that is all.

 

[sk*]

You forgot to quote from my thread when I called all pretty girls stupid and anyone that had a brain didn't resemble a female!!!

No it isn't about all females, it is about the majority of them. It's just that most of you are too emotional and don't use your minds to make decisions.

I commented a lot on the subject on my other thread, so no need to do it again.

-sk

 

[Frackal]

Hey Frackal,

How are you?

Couple of things:

When my hubby and I first started dating, yes he did pay for almost everything. I was a student and only working part time. I was lucky if I was bringing home $100 a week. When he didn't have money and I did, I always offered to pay. Most of the time we did things that were not expensive.

I always have and always will appreciate a man who treats a lady like a lady. I love when a man holds a door for me. Chivalry (sp) is not dead. The right girl will appreciate these things.

I assume then that you act like a Lady in return? Which includes being submissive, staying home and doing household chores, listening to the man's problems first when he comes home etc?

Oh what, that's degrading? Oh ok...but it's ok for a man to do all the nice stuff of the same cultural background for a woman?

Oh.

 

[-SD-]

Flexy girl makes some good points except I feel there is no reason why we should not speak out about frustrations...I don't think that makes us not "good men" or abnormal...I've listened to plenty of similiar sentiments at work and school...you guys are just exposed to it here more...

Also, I'd love to just date a girl and be able to have my main concern be whether I like her or not...unfortunately, the common woman attitude is, "We have equal rights except when it comes time to pay, then I want YOU to be a gentleman and shell out that cash."

That's the way things are, ok, but that makes it so I have to be practical and cold about things like you see in my comment above.

Sometimes I have that problem with women and sometimes I dont. It all depends on who Im going out with at the time. It also depends on which person asked the other one out for the date, i.e. if I asked them out then I expect to pay and if they asked me out then I expect them to pay, or at least pay for themselves. I think you may be subconsciously seeking out a certain type of woman and you arent even aware of it, because the same problem of paying for the dates always arises for you. Its a numbers game bro, if you ask a girl out on the first date and she sits there dumb like a rock while you fork over the money all night while you are on the date, then go to the next girl and see if she offers to pay for herself or whatever. Give a girl one date and you will have her figured out regarding her views on paying for dates, if she is a golddigger then move on to the next one.