i dont understand, ive been using prop 10 weeks now....besides the first week of being a lttle soar i dont know why everone says prop is painful.....i know qv is cause its dirty crap, and all my friends complain about it. so is everyone in here doing that CRAP? but anyways had anyone ever get pain from anyother props? i know BR, and BD are two top quality gears, and i had never got pain from either of them.......with the BD however my shoulder broke out pretty fucking bad