ben dovergurl said:
Ever see an inner tube with a bubble/bulge in it? That's what an aneurysm is, a bulging of the blood vessel wall caused by a structural weakness there. You can have them anywhere in your body. When they rupture, especially some of the brain and heart vessel varieties, it's usually LIGHTS OUT. That's what killed John Ritter, a ruptured aortic aneurysm. Since they're symptomless unless/until they rupture they're usually only found before they cause problems when doctors know there's a genetic history of them and they run scans (usually MRI/MRA) or they're looking for something else and happen to run across the aneurysm.instant.muscle said:
musclemom said:
If he literally collapsed and died instantly, I'll guess brain, a ruptured cerebral aneurysm. The aneurysm pops and floods the cerebral fluid with blood, the brain is snapped off, BANG.ben dovergurl said:
The tendency toward them, that's congenital, something you're born with, just like any other weakness.instant.muscle said:
who's to say? He could have skipped his training yesterday, gotten cut off in traffic today, got pissed off and popped a vessel in the middle of rush hour traffic, too, and taken out a car full of commuters. If he'd never taken steroids, never lifted weights, maintained a normal body weight and gotten regular exercise he might have checked out 30 years from now, or he might have dropped dead in the middle of an orgasm.ben dovergurl said:
Dude, they did the right thing. A ruptured cerebral aneurysm severe enough to stop a man's heart means severe brain damage. If they HAD done CPR, he was brain dead. God forbid if they'd actually managed to get his heart beating it would have been powering a turnip.juniorsamples said:
ben dovergurl said:
musclemom said:If he literally collapsed and died instantly, I'll guess brain, a ruptured cerebral aneurysm. The aneurysm pops and floods the cerebral fluid with blood, the brain is snapped off, BANG.
That is one of the many types of bleeds. Your speaking of a subarchnoid bleed.
The tendency toward them, that's congenital, something you're born with, just like any other weakness.
this is so true and a small percentage of people walk around with them and not even know it. You go to your MD complaing of a stiff neck and a HA adn he just happens to do a CT scan or MRI and there it is.
High/increased blood pressure triggers them and can blow them, but if you have an aneurysm you can have normal blood pressure, too and it can blow. High blood pressure doesn't make you GET an aneurysm unless you have a weakness in your arterial wall somewhere to begin with. Now a SUDDEN increase in blood pressure, as in heavy weight training (your blood pressure goes up like crazy when you weight train, even more than with cardio, think of those red faced power lifters), that's a different story.
HTN untreated long enough can weaken a vessel. think about all that pressure for years on anything will weaken it eventually.
He didn't get the aneurysm from weight training, or steroids, but could those two things have contributed to his early death
Death is a crapshoot, only guys on death row know when their ticket will get punched, and sometimes they get curveballs, too.
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thebadguy54 said:
if its your time to go you will go no matter where you are or what you are doing.st8grad said:
just think of the places you could go.
needtogetaas said:if its your time to go you will go no matter where you are or what you are doing.
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enacer420nj said:What a jerk off, when you start CPR your supposed to keep going until you cant physically anymore...and then someone else takes over....best to have a face shield with the one way valve so u dont get his throw up in your mouth
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