Post cycle depression/anxiety

[Mangekyousharingan]

Bros Im having a real tough time. I came off a 500mg test 400mg deca cycle about a month ago and I currently suffer from something I think is depression or anxiety. I feel confused, down, nervous and scared most of the time. This is not related to losing strength or size at all. It happens randomly for no reason like if Im at school wherever suddenly everything seems strange I feel alone even when Im not. I get nervous confused and stress for no reason the world seems like a strange and different place. I start to stress and it affects my mental health because I stress so much and then I get panic attacks and get paranoid because Im scared that it will fuck my mind up and Ill end up retarded or hurth myself if it gets too much one day so that I may not be able to control myself. I havent even done pct because Im afraid that it will make my depression even worce. Have any of you suffered from this? Is it normal? Is it permanent. I used to be happy but Im not anymore. Sorry for my english its not my first language.

 

[Johnny 138]

Bro, if you are having these feelings its because your levels are bottomed out because you haven't run a pct. Don't be afraid to run pct, its gonna get you back to your natural state, not running it only increases your chance of these symptoms and could cause some to become permanent. Get a solid pct together and run it asap.

 

[Mangekyousharingan]

Thanks for the reply bro. I have clomid and nolvadex, should I run it now? Ive got an appoitment with my doctor on tuesday, if the reason for these symptoms are my levels being bottom he will help me get it up again. Should I wait or do clomid/nolva now?

 

[Johnny 138]

I would recommend starting now man. Clomid at 50/50/25/25 Nolva at 40/40/20/20 and I'd add in a good natty test booster like hcgenerate.
Hopefully your doctor has a good grasp on this type of thing. Have bloods run to see where you are at now, but from what you are describing you are absolutely suffering from bottomed out levels post cycle and just need to get your body back into homeostasis.

 

[Mangekyousharingan]

Bro I just took clomid and nolva but read some posts about people getting depressed and suicidal on clomid. Thats scary considering my current situation. I also think its because of bottomed test levels Im just scared it might get out of control or become permanent

May i also add that my nuts are currently pea sized

 

[Johnny 138]

Lol, yeah pea sized nuts are a sure sign you're shut down broski. Clomid can have some nasty sides bit that is TYPICALLY with higher doses. 100 mg or so, however everyone is different. That's why I recommended only 50mg clomid.
I can assure you that waiting longer will only make your problem that much harder to fix in the future, pct is an absolute must and unfortunately you are suffering the consequences of not running one right now. Don't let that stop you from doing it now though. Things are tough for you right now, but getting yourself leveled back out should fix what you are having to deal with.

 

[Mangekyousharingan]

Thanks for your help bro. You have no idea how much youve helped me. Ive learnt my lesson and hope this is over soon so that I can continue with my life again

How long do you think it will take for my test to return back to normal after doing clomid/nolva?

 

[Johnny 138]

That's not a question anyone can answer. Everyone is different. Blood work by a doctor is the only way to be sure that everything is normal. I wouldn't be surprised though if you started feeling better within a couple of weeks. Maybe less maybe more, can't really say. I would still recommend getting yourself a good natural test booster too.
Glad to help bro and I hope you get straightened out quick. If there's anything else I can help you with don't hesitate to ask.

 

[strizzey]

Yea bro, sounds like your Estrogen is out of control right now. Def hop on that PCT and you may also want to try a antidepressant. I too suffer from depression.

 

[Lints]

Sorry to highjack - but as someone with depression on and off throughout their whole life (thus loving the gym as it's the one natural thing that really boosts my mood) is it potentially not a good idea to consider running a cycle? It's something that I've been thinking about doing recently and have been just reading as much as I can around the subject, but, with an unstable set of head chemistry at the best of times - am I exposing myself to more risk than the benefits might be worth? Be interested if anyone had any opinions on it.

 

[injfuel]

Wow , people taking steroids and NOT doing a pct and thinking everything will be ok lol or that doing something that was supposed to be done might make things worse ?? especially with deca

 

[alcatraz1662]

Bro get on a PCT now, get yourself laid, and stop being a pussy.

Hell u doing a cycle for and no PCT?

 

[Cotlet]

Antidepressants r hard to give up on once u start with it
Try 5htp+magnesium 3 times/day
U can add St Johns worth as well to keep depression at bay
Epsom salt is helping me stay calm and anger management course

 

[Cotlet]

Antidepressants r hard to give up on once u start with it
Try 5htp+magnesium 3 times/day
U can add St Johns worth as well to keep depression at bay
Epsom salt is helping me stay calm and anger management course

 

[stevesmi]

lol at recommending this kid go on anti depressants.

bottom line is you were STUPID. you are young obviously and you decided to run deca and test at a gram a week for a first cycle. STUPID, and you probably ran no AI, or prolactin support. so now that you came off your E is sky high, your prolactin is sky high, and your T levels are low.

going to a doctor isn't gonna solve your problem. all he is going to do is write you out some drugs and tell you to not run steroids again. we can tell you the same thing for free on here.

what you have to do is you need to run a quality pct. its going to be expensive, but if you do not run a pct yes your problems can most certainly be permanent or atleast take a year or more to fully feel good again. click this link and run this layout exactly have I have it written. don't skimp on anything I write http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/p...est-pct-2014-time-break-out-whip-1328483.html

 

[Michai]

Yea bro, sounds like your Estrogen is out of control right now. Def hop on that PCT and you may also want to try a antidepressant. I too suffer from depression.

I would highly recommend lexapro, it works quickly and has few interactions, 10mg a day can make a huge difference.
lexapro in itself does not cause or prevent gyno (several anti depressants can cause severe gyno by themselves) which means AI/PCT will be indentical to someone who doesn't take lexapro.

So, to summarise/clarify:
1-lexapro will NOT interact with anabolic androgenic steroids
2-lexapro CAN interact with supplements (severely enough to cause death with St John's wort)
3-after a cycle your body will try to find homeostasis (rebalance itself to cope without roids) which due to your age, gender and self reported feelings. means you MAY be more prone to suicide.

Side note:unlike most antidepressants lexapro works within days rather than weeks so your mental health professional can increase your dose to alleviate post cycle depression.

Fun fact:lexapro rather than simply encouraging reuptake in the serotonergic system/stimulating the prefrontal cortex (brains happy happy joy joy place)is actually able to encourage neogenesis and help build dendrites (new connections) which allows it to be taken almost indefinitely without becoming resistant to treatment

Source(s) myself and by extension the university of michigan

 

[zmyj88]

Yeah, and next time I cut my finger, I'll just get the whole arm amputated.

You feel like shit because you were pumping synthetic hormones into you, then just stopped. Why do you thing EVERYone recommends pct?! I know, I know, you're different, nobody's ever been there. Pct, get your levels back up, don't just hop on antidepressents, 50/50 wouldn't help anyway, you have. No. Test.

 

[AssyMcGee]

Self medicating.