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PLEASE Help! PP? Nelson? Test Levels came Back 25

muscleup said:
You will be suprised it can happen quickly if the right pathway is chosen....Just remember that time will get your body back to homestasis. Give yourself a good 4-6 week PCT and then go get tested 4 weeks after coming of ALL PCT compounds.

Recovery is ALWAYS possible unless you have a pre-exisiting condition...Which would not hurt to get checked for.{Testicular cancer, Pituitary tumors, thyroid failure, many factors}

Just remember....Time and Patience and not stressing out over it and you will soon be back on track. Positive thinking will take you a long way brotha.


Good advice. The lesson for all here is, you never know how gear will affect you and some people are more susceptable to the bad sides than others. Some guys can do drol and halo and their blood levels are fine, someone else does a couple of dbol and their cholesterol goes over 300.

The supps will definetely help but don't take them until you're on the HCG and they have something to work with. That seems like an awful lot of HCG but you have to go with the docs advice at this point. Not so sure about the nolva. YOu may want to wait and see how the HCG works. I'd advise using dex to combat the estro from the HCG.

ABSOLUTELY no cycles for the rest of the year! Then, since you're 40, you should look into HRT.
 
Not to bring this thread to a screeching halt, and I'm not trying to hop on anyone's jock, but I really like the tone of this thread and the advice this bro is being given. It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. (Refreshing change from the flamefest I just read on another board.)

And it's great to see Bill Llewellyn posting here.
 
centy said:
Not to bring this thread to a screeching halt, and I'm not trying to hop on anyone's jock, but I really like the tone of this thread and the advice this bro is being given. It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. (Refreshing change from the flamefest I just read on another board.)

And it's great to see Bill Llewellyn posting here.
Me too..The guys on here really seem to know when someone really needs help and is not just being a dumbass Thanks...any other thoughts if any are welcome
 
I'm curious - Does it feel as crummy I expect ultra-low test levels would feel? i.e. Did you expect them to be bottomed out based on how you felt?
 
centy said:
I'm curious - Does it feel as crummy I expect ultra-low test levels would feel? i.e. Did you expect them to be bottomed out based on how you felt?

Honestly. I feel ok. and i am 40 and lift more than my 25 yr old employess. My strength is ok. and i havent gained fat...so its a lil confusing....kinda weird
 
dasher said:
Honestly. I feel ok. and i am 40 and lift more than my 25 yr old employess. My strength is ok. and i havent gained fat...so its a lil confusing....kinda weird
Ill keep you guys posted
 
If your pituitary isn't producing LH and FSH at the normal levels your test levels will fall after you stop the HCG. Directlabs does have a test to check both luteinizing hormone and follicle-stimulating hormone. If these levels are normal then you will recover. If they are not you just might need HRT. You might as well get it checked now so you don't waste your time and money on products that will not help you when you could be spending your time and money on HRT that will help.

Here is a link for directlabs:Direct Labs
 
dasher said:
Uggh. So i guess no Gear for Summer of 2008. Man that has to suck I just turned 40 and I wanted to look my best. My health is more important I know

It's almost certain your levels are low because of your former cycle. You could go back on in the summer and be just fine - only delaying what you need to do anyway to restart your HPTA. It's silly to do short cycles anyway - making your hormones go through an endless series of fluctuations.
 
centy said:
I'm curious - Does it feel as crummy I expect ultra-low test levels would feel? i.e. Did you expect them to be bottomed out based on how you felt?

I once had a test level of 60 after a test/ deca cycle. I didn't feel that bad actually. Libido was a little low, but I was 50 anyway. Either had sex with my wife or took it into my own hands 3 or 4 times a week :-)

Come to think of it, I did a lot of redecorating, and watched Oprah everyday. Haha. Just kidding.
 
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