Please help me out !!!

[Gettin Ripped]

I am needing some information on a first time cyle. Which is better for a first time user? Are oral as hard on the liver as they say, little unsure of becoming a pin cushion if i have to. D-bol or winnies are coming to mind, are these to strong for first time use. I do realize that moderation will used and the juice do have reprocussions but what is a man to do with so many choices?
Read alot of articles on cycling , not sure what is bullshit or legite.
So if some one could help out would be most appreciated and no narc or dea.

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[The Terminator]

Forget the all oral and go with something simple like 250-500 mg. test/week. See how you respond before taking buttloads of gear.

 

[Gettin Ripped]

Thanks

Your input is greatly appreciated.

 

[bouncer]

Personnaly I think Terminator is over cautious, which is not a bad thing. However you haven't stated your training experienc, goals, and stats and what gear you have available to you and how much you want to spend.

An oral cycle will work for you, in which case run with a dball cycle for 6 weeks. Even for a novice I recommend keeping the dball around 35-40mgs per day. Alot of novice user's go with 30mg per day because of the horrors they hear regarding Dianabal. These horror stories originate from heavy heavy user's. Although at 30mg (6 tabs per day) will work for a smaller guy, and big guy simply needs more to get the gain. Thats been my experience.

If you can afford some test go with it. It's always a good idea to have testo in your cycles. If cost is a factor run at just 500mg Enanth per week, over 6 weeks it's only 12 amps which is not awhole lot of money.

In this kind of cycle Deca is always nice too, but as a first time user you probably don't want to spend a whole great deal of money. But Deca added to this cycle does bring it's own benefits.

One final thought, if you running the Enanth with the dball as a first timer you can reduce that dianabal intake to 30mg if you wish. Don't forget your ancillary drugs will add to the cost, but please don't neglect them, ie. arimedex and clomid.

running the dball, taper in the last few days. No need to taper the testo and deca's.

Best of luck with reaching your goals mate.

REgards

Bouncer

 

[Gettin Ripped]

Sounds all good to me but

Goals , well lets put it this way am a 36 year old 5 9 170 lb male with about 5 to 6 % body fat, have good genetics and have always had a good build, good is not sufice any more , looking to be about 180-190 when summer hits and and lean. I train dam hard at the gym and they always say you get out what you put in, so if and when i do take juice, i will work dam hard for the gains. The only available juice i know of right at this time is sus and this is supposed to be the real mccoy? Money wise , not to concerned about that. Not to sure who to hit up for juice when others like d-bol etc come inot play.
Feed back would be greatly appreciated.

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[genarr3]

http://www.anabolicreview.com/main.htm - good gear profiles section, go check it out. See what things do and what the average doeses are and decide for yourself.

 

[RustyTromboneMan]

cycle

pm me and Ill help you set something good up

 

[el cubano]

I'm of the mind set that your first cycle is always the best so make the best of it. I'd go with the old but trusty androgen/anabolic theory. Go with dbol and deca. Use about 25-30mg of dbol for 6 weeks and go with 400mg of deca for 8 weeks. Finish off with some clomid and you're all set for the summer.

 

[el cubano]

sk*, everyone has their own opinions and should jump down anyone else's throat for having one. The main problem with steroids is that there really isn't any HARD research done on them for BB'ing. As a matter of fact, this is funny, it hasn't even been scientifically proven that steroids help build muscle. I know people are going to talk all this crap about independent studies, but that's the key word, independent studies. I'm talking about nationally, like the AMA and shit like that. Read this in Time or one of those mags a few months back.

 

[JB25]

Man, I really think you need to do a lot more research on what you are thinking of taking. And i don't recommend taking anything until you have first built a solid mass natually. Men who do a lot of anabolic steroids when they first begin weight training begin to realize that gains are hard to keep. Build mass naturally. Use what you can naturally (diet, protein powders, rest and recovery) and you'll see that anabolics are not what bodybuilding is all about. They are only a tool you use to continue your dream after your hormonal limitations have been pushed, and pushed again. I am 25 and have built 40lbs of lean mass over 4 years before ever even thinking of needles! Do your research, get great gains naturally over a long time span, then consider using a bit of help.