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[kiai]

^^you will need hcg during your cycle and a SERM for your PCT added to what you already have if you choose that cycle.

your first cycle is always the best due to the clear receptors so make sure you are ready to rock and roll and you have everything ready

250 IU hcg twice a week starting week 4 sound ok ?

 

[zwhit]

orals for 12 weeks might be a little too much? But some say var is pretty mild on the liver. I've never ran it so I don't really know anything

 

[stevesmi]

^^var is not good for your liver at all. def need liver support. what it is good for is it is not very suppressive and side effects are low.

 

[stevesmi]

250 IU hcg twice a week starting week 4 sound ok ?

yes when the nuts start to shrink is when i would start it. depends on what you run but generally weeks 4-5 is when suppression begins with long esther injectables..

you definately need hcg if you run test... unlike what people think test is VERY suppressive. which is the only reason why i suggested a var cycle to start you off

 

[kiai]

I'd say he has genetics to be honest.. Considering he said he's only been lifting for 2 yrs. You should keep pushing yourself tho and see hoe far you can get without roids. Not sure how you're legs are but you are legit so far.. Good job

I've relatively small wrists/arms and my calves look funny compared to my thigh. make no mistake I can squat 4 plates although I start seeing spots after like 8 reps

genetically I've very thin limbs and I tend to put on fat very easy

anyway here is the whyeels over a year ago

damn bro you look reallly good. i was going to ask if you were on cycle right now before the blurb about being natural.

why do you need to juice when looking like that naturally? your hormone levels are clearly awsome. are you going to compete? why not try some natural competitions first, and wait till your 30's when your hormones start to dip anyway to juice...

if you insist on juicing now, keep it tame, and simple for as long as you can. i disagree with lafragle, the dosages are pretty low. looks like a fun cycle!

Thank you! Im not considering AAS at the moment still curious/learning on how to maximize my results naturally feel it will pay off when I get on. right now I'm just researching I like to have the knowledge.

 

[zedhed]

Nice pics K.
But wanna see the legs bro.
That is a lot of gear for the first go round bro. Would much rather see you do Test with maybe something as a kick start. That way you dont need to worry so much about sides and can enjoy.
Regards bro and good luck.

 

[cuthroat]

Got to hand it to this new guy he did shit the right way which is refreshing after 99 percent of the people that hop on here don't. I agree with pushing his limits naturally but shit... where he is at now if I were him? I would be pinning too. Glad to have you here on EF hope you stick around sir! Stick around do some research...glad to see you have plat already.

 

[zedhed]

LOL you put that up just as I was posting.
You look gr8 but your legs dont quite match up with your upper bod dude. But most peeps dont anyway.
Good work bro!

 

[kiai]

so is running dbol at start and var too much you think ? even if running liv52 ?

 

[kiai]

LOL you put that up just as I was posting.
You look gr8 but your legs dont quite match up with your upper bod dude. But most peeps dont anyway.
Good work bro!

the pics were few months old and the legs is almost a year old right now legs are bigger and I wouldn't consider adding more size to them really I've 31" waist but nothing smaller than 38 fits me already because of my legs I would go 40 just so I feel comfortable around my thighs