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[stevesmi]

^^^hard to see your muscle definition in your legs cause you are like me and a hairy MOFO. i trim myself once or twice a week

but your legs look swole

 

[kiai]

if only muscles grow as fast as hair does

 

[C.K.]

I'm not sure about an oral only first cycle. although it's very appealing as no injections involved.

I've been reading in here and obviously can see a debate regarding this on here most will say have a test base no matter what

ideally I was thinking:

1-10 test-e @ 350mg/wk
1-6 dbol @ 20mg ED
6-12 var 30mg ED
10-12 test-p 100mg EOD
3-16 Aromasin/arimadex.

2-12 HCGenerate.
12-16 POST CYCLE/UNLEASHED

then after adjusting calories/macros to my new weight

you have a great build only problem I see is the stomach fat skip the dbol and use winny instead and you have yourself a cutting cycle

 

[kiai]

you have a great build only problem I see is the stomach fat skip the dbol and use winny instead and you have yourself a cutting cycle

ah yeah the bottom part of my stomach is very stubborn no matter what I eat or not eat it's doesn't wanna go (I used to be fat most of my life btw so it always been there)

 

[C.K.]

have you tried cardio? you won't gain fat if you diet but you won't burn it without cardio...

 

[kiai]

I've leaned up to 8% bf before it got smaller not it didn't go away at which time I was dieting for so long and was hell tired off it so I had to ease off and bulk. I do cardio year round I used to do alot of high intensity cardio before but right now only low intensity and short interval training sometimes 2-3 times a week. I think it could completely go away but it will be the very last part to go and obviously have to get below 8% anyway I've better shape now so maybe short bulks then back to cutting will do it.

 

[kiai]

damn bro you look reallly good. i was going to ask if you were on cycle right now before the blurb about being natural.

why do you need to juice when looking like that naturally? your hormone levels are clearly awsome. are you going to compete? why not try some natural competitions first, and wait till your 30's when your hormones start to dip anyway to juice...

if you insist on juicing now, keep it tame, and simple for as long as you can. i disagree with lafragle, the dosages are pretty low. looks like a fun cycle!

competing here is really tough since almost everybody is juicing though the others just don't know how or what to get

 

[kiai]

still think I've the genetics ? perhaps the genetics have me

at least I had real wheels *ding ding ding*

 

[Sub-Zero]

ah yeah the bottom part of my stomach is very stubborn no matter what I eat or not eat it's doesn't wanna go (I used to be fat most of my life btw so it always been there)

i have the same issue

 

[Sub-Zero]

nice before pics haha, u did a great job. maybe do what CK suggested and run winny instead, and perhaps a cortisol blocker, like erase or somethin, and it will help with the tummy