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[kiai]

winny would be better than var ? obviously it's much cheaper lol I'm kinda discarding it only because I've a bitch of a foot already and I can't really handle any more joint pain

 

[stevesmi]

^^^^ i think too many opinions on this thread are confusing the crap out of you.

I would just run a cycle with ONE aas. either anavar or dbol as i suggested. see what happens. you are still young, you've got plenty of time ahead of you.

then start brainstorming a 2nd cycle with test as a base and something else. maybe primo, maybe mast, maybe an oral. and go from there.

 

[kiai]

at least I know what happens when you inject one of those bad boys !

feel like pounding everything in sight for like 6 hours including but not limited to the weights

 

[Nelson Montana]

OKay, too much shit. Too much conflicting information. Too many drugs for a first cycle.

What if you experience a bad side effect? How will you know what drug caused it?

Deca and dbol is very powerful and can cause gyno worse than anything and you're going to add test and ANOTHER oral?

NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

300 mgs of Primo and 15 mgs of dbol for 4 weeks. N2GUARD and Formastanazol.

Done.

And work your lower abs more.

PCT, HCG, UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE. Follow with BRIDGE.

Trust me, you'll love it.

 

[kiai]

And work your lower abs more.

Yes sir! although I've hit the hell out of them once before it just pushed that part further out.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Yes sir! although I've hit the hell out of them once before it just pushed that part further out.

Then you're training them wrong.

You have a good frame, nice muscle and you're young so there's no reason you can't make improvements. But you're jumping into the steroid thing at WAAAAAYYYY too high of a dosage -- the result, I suspect, of listening to the wrong people.

Just trying to save you some problems .

 

[zwhit]

^^var is not good for your liver at all. def need liver support. what it is good for is it is not very suppressive and side effects are low.

Yeah I know this bro. I was just trying not to sound like a know it all when I have no experience whatsoever running var or any orals for more than 4 weeks.

 

[kiai]

Then you're training them wrong.

You have a good frame, nice muscle and you're young so there's no reason you can't make improvements. But you're jumping into the steroid thing at WAAAAAYYYY too high of a dosage -- the result, I suspect, of listening to the wrong people.

Just trying to save you some problems .

I'm still natural and probably will be for at least another year I'm not really rushing into it I've seen too many ppl do this and it always end up bad one way or another so I'll do my research first and when I decide to go with it I will try to be as safe as possible.

it's good that we have somebody to guide us in here saving us the trouble of finding what's bad trying it.

 

[C.K.]

You seem to have no problem naturally gaining muscle but only losing fat... only makes sense that you'd do a cutting cycle and reap the benefits of steroids that your body can't do on its own