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Pics so you believe im 6'4 300

I'm 5' 10'' 207 at 9% and I look half the size of guys who are 230

Weight is a weird concept man.

I'm 5'8" 210 at 8% BF and I look 230.
 
^^^^ lighter you talk a lot about being low weight and looking bigger. i would be curious if you put up a recent pic of yourself at 160 pounds. i am generally curious to see what that looks like. i weigh right now about 197 at 5 6... and i'm about 13-14% body fat. if i were to drop to 175 i would look like a stick.. i just don't see it possible to have real muscle mass and weigh under 180 unless you are a midget. when i was an endurance athlete of course i weighed A LOT less, but i had LEAN MUSCLE.. not muscle mass.

my point is real muscle mass and lean muscle mass are two different things.

5"6 175 at a real 8%bf is Not stick, its fuking jacked.. Go look at tuan tran on youtube, he's 5"7, same heright as me and weighs 196 in his off season (around 12%bf) and 170-174 contest, and he's pretty big, also he's natural..
heres a vid of him: I dont see him looking like stick here and he's 1" taller than you, hes 5"7 180 in this video as he mentioned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tMwErDzTgw

As for me posting pics, im not gonna do it, i have nothing to prove, i never said im fuking tank or anything, but at 160lb people think im over 190lb, i asked them to guess how much i weight and almost everyone said 190-200, its because im 5"7 and have low bf, when i was 220+lb, everyone thought i was jacked, but i was fat as fuk snd could hide my gut underneath my shirt and show off my arms and shoulders.. When you're wearing a shirt you'll look much much bigger with higher bf%, when you're ripped you look much smaller in a shirt but take the shirt off when you're ripped and you'll look much bigger, its all illusion..
 
I'm 5' 10'' 207 at 9% and I look half the size of guys who are 230

Thats probably because those guys are fat, and can hide their belly under their shirts.. Tell em to take their shirts off then compare and you'll seee you look twice their size, because fat makes the body shapeless and round.. low bf will make you look much bigger than you actually weigh, ofcourse without a shirt :)
 
I have one believer!

back in the day in college (before juicin) i played DE @ 6'4 260....now I would most certainly play DT....

and like I said those pics are off cycle, on cycle my shoulders and chest literally blow up. So gimme about 4 weeks...Ill post some new ones, and be right next to the scale for you fuckers

I believe him. 6'4" 300 and lean isn't that hard to believe just because they don't show up here. Welcome to EF bro. Glad to have you here. Problem is we get so many 5'9" guys it's just out of the normal.


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I thought he was going to have a sword tattoo down the front middle of his chest.


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5"6 175 at a real 8%bf is Not stick, its fuking jacked.. Go look at tuan tran on youtube, he's 5"7, same heright as me and weighs 196 in his off season (around 12%bf) and 170-174 contest, and he's pretty big, also he's natural..
heres a vid of him: I dont see him looking like stick here and he's 1" taller than you, hes 5"7 180 in this video as he mentioned.
400 meter Sprint and Walk Cardio Program for Fat Loss by Tuan Tran - YouTube

As for me posting pics, im not gonna do it, i have nothing to prove, i never said im fuking tank or anything, but at 160lb people think im over 190lb, i asked them to guess how much i weight and almost everyone said 190-200, its because im 5"7 and have low bf, when i was 220+lb, everyone thought i was jacked, but i was fat as fuk snd could hide my gut underneath my shirt and show off my arms and shoulders.. When you're wearing a shirt you'll look much much bigger with higher bf%, when you're ripped you look much smaller in a shirt but take the shirt off when you're ripped and you'll look much bigger, its all illusion..

i'm talking about 160 pounds, not this guy in the vid who is 180... when I compete this year I will have to drop to 177 and i've done that before and i definately lost mass and strength. i guess it depends on your goals, i'm not a physique person anymore.. i'm stuck between mass and strength. no way do i think that strength and having a gut is anything i would want to look like either. i do enjoy doing 3 plates on the bench and 4 plates on the squat and having 6 foot dudes come next to me and struggle with 2 and 3 plates though and its gonna suck dropping under 10% of fat and losing strength in the process.

but my point is no way at 160 you have much mass on you. lean muscle yes, but not large muscle mass. the guy in the vid does have good mass on him, didn't see his legs though but if they are as full as his upper body then that is a good look for guys our height. but no he isn't natural, of course he is gonna say that because he wants to sell his program to naive kids who want to look like him. $70 a month for his program LMAO. i can't believe people pay that to be spoonfed. what % of people who do his program or any of these bullshit programs online end up looking good.. less than 1%. if he is natural i am too :) he has a degree in kiniesology (wtf is that anyway?) from the university of houston, as if i'm supposed to be impressed with a degree from the worst state when it comes to education. i think you need to have a 2.0 to get into a texas college
 
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Thats probably because those guys are fat, and can hide their belly under their shirts.. Tell em to take their shirts off then compare and you'll seee you look twice their size, because fat makes the body shapeless and round.. low bf will make you look much bigger than you actually weigh, ofcourse without a shirt :)

I'm one of those 230 guys he was referring to .....I don't have a shirt on in my pics.......
 
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